Topic: [ANN] Snowballs | ONE MORE HARD FORK to BALLS 2.0.2 | BALLS/MMXIV Market OPEN - page 180. (Read 257518 times)
November 02, 2014, 05:26:40 AM
balls made it to HashNZ exchange.Sweet
November 02, 2014, 05:22:50 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
Post an address
Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?
I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking
I appreciate you stepping up, too. We need to get the coins off of all 4 pools as quickly as possible and into the hands of those who want to stake it tomorrow
We have HunterS and myself offering to help pay pool fees on top of any mining fees, if applicable, to help speed it up. We have 3 pool ops that haven't responded yet to whether they are updated or not
I really feel like staking should be postponed until pool owners get a chance to catch up and update things, otherwise its really a waste for everyone who mined it. Pool owners that stake with everybodys coins will have a really unfair advantage.
November 02, 2014, 05:18:48 AM
Damn it. This sucks. If your coins aren't gaining weight in a wallet right now, they are virtually worthless.
Not true. Staking does not begin earning weight for a few more hours
November 02, 2014, 05:18:04 AM
The formula is the same as PPC, just use 6400000 instead of 10000 to calculate the amount
These three pools still need to confirm they are updated. I highly suggest not mining on anyone who has not updated, as you are just mining on your own fork
These three pools still need to confirm they are updated. I highly suggest not mining on anyone who has not updated, as you are just mining on your own fork
November 02, 2014, 05:17:48 AM
Damn it. This sucks. If your coins aren't gaining weight in a wallet right now, they are virtually worthless.
Not ocminer's fault. It's just shitty. At the very least this damn coin should have a reliable way to calculate fees. Thats all it would need to avoid this whole mess.
Not ocminer's fault. It's just shitty. At the very least this damn coin should have a reliable way to calculate fees. Thats all it would need to avoid this whole mess.
November 02, 2014, 05:12:28 AM
PM me and address ocminer and i will send coins.I guessing its 108.29639900 -the 6.5 which would be 101.796399(i will just make it 102) 
November 02, 2014, 05:09:34 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
Post an address
Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?
I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking
I agree 100% I am down with paying whatever fee is fair, and I applaud you for doing the right thing with ocminer
November 02, 2014, 05:08:05 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
Post an address
Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?
I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking
I appreciate you stepping up, too. We need to get the coins off of all 4 pools as quickly as possible and into the hands of those who want to stake it tomorrow
We have HunterS and myself offering to help pay pool fees on top of any mining fees, if applicable, to help speed it up. We have 3 pool ops that haven't responded yet to whether they are updated or not
November 02, 2014, 05:07:56 AM
where the hell do you open a ticket or support on HashNZ trading site?
November 02, 2014, 05:05:10 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
Post an address
Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?
I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking
November 02, 2014, 05:03:28 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
Post an address
Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?
I am trying to cover some fees out of my own pocket so you guys get your coins before it starts staking
November 02, 2014, 05:03:09 AM
also i sent 100 coins to HashNZ and they never turned up.a blockexplorer would be nice.i would negotiate a bounty for one.
November 02, 2014, 05:02:08 AM
i will send you coiuns back for fee bro.I dont mind.what address.
November 02, 2014, 05:01:44 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
Post an address
Any other options besides forcing pool owners to stake with miners coins?
November 02, 2014, 04:41:38 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
Post an address
November 02, 2014, 04:32:47 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
I am willing to pay whatever fee you think is fair and you can take the 100 coins out of my account to make up for your loss.
November 02, 2014, 04:22:51 AM
The biggest problem is, I cannot reliable calculate the fees before sending the tx - so you withdraw like 500 coins - i charge 6.5 coins for the tx and the wallet ends up charging me > 100 coins for that:
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "SSE7JA9VEefQo7jP5dvCCkPPwbiacrimiR",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -5281.70360100,
"fee" : -108.29639900,
"confirmations" : 51,
"blockhash" : "0000000000000d2891bcec07b22c6fcb6a210ceba1006b0edff62add2db437a0",
"blockindex" : 1,
"txid" : "9fe22ad33daade4585e22fea2ec7975215f46a499be5c4188b01df7bf34863a4",
"time" : 1414913467
},
and now i'm sitting on over 100 coins "lost" as your balance is now zero and the fee pops up AFTER sending the coins..
So currently we'll definitely have to wait until staking kicks in and I got enough in the wallet to pay for everybody or the fees are lowered massively.
November 02, 2014, 04:20:39 AM
Okay i've did some tests and a withdrawal of 10 and 100 coins yielded a fee of 6.4 coins per withdrawal which is quite a lot still.
I've updated and opened manual withdrawals now, you can withdraw your funds now, just make sure you're not doing lots of small withdrawals as your coins will be "eaten up" by the fees. Do one (or two) large payments to your wallet.
As soon as some withdrawals have been made and everything went fine I'll update here.
I've updated and opened manual withdrawals now, you can withdraw your funds now, just make sure you're not doing lots of small withdrawals as your coins will be "eaten up" by the fees. Do one (or two) large payments to your wallet.
As soon as some withdrawals have been made and everything went fine I'll update here.
Trying a withdraw now, not seeing the manual payout option as usual
Yes i had to disable it again because of the horrendous fee which was put onto the withdrawal .. Currently figuring out what to do best
All good, sounds like we need fees dropped short term to make it fair for everyone to get things off pools.
November 02, 2014, 04:18:51 AM
my fee was only 6.5 coins for 5280 withdrawl
Yes that is what the pool charged you, but the network charged me > 150 coins
November 02, 2014, 04:18:04 AM
my fee was only 6.5 coins for 5280 withdrawl
Yes that is what the pool charged you, but the network charged me > 150 coins
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