Topic: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) - page 175. (Read 676876 times)

Ofcourse, but i guess will be hard ( wil takes lots of time and resources) to fully upgrade them.
Satoshi card stats sucks, but i mention that on so many places already.

I wonder that too, some of the free cards are quite good! Especially the Luminatis and Crirawins!

Seems like Season 5 just ended.
I wonder if in next season all will reset or not as in last one.

Don't jinx it, promote SoG instead!

I like how Yodark put it in his update video: "Alone you go quicker, together we go further!"  


The last test season I counted 205 palyers on the leaderboard, this round there are 181 so far.
How many fingers does your hand have?

http://api.moonga.com/sog_leaderboard/

Only kidding, thanks for the feedback anyway.

I think it will be massive for Eth if SoG moves to Ethereum...  
As I mentioned in my previous comment we don't even know yet how it will scale.
There is a lot of hype around Ethereum but that's all I see, they have projects, Dapps being built on it but who actually needs them in the real world?
Once they come up with something useful I may consider it. There are a lot of disillusioned people in this space.
Keep following the masses and "the wisdom of the crowd", but remember one thing... crowds aren't wise! They are sheeps following the herd.
Of course this is my opinion, take it for what it is.

I can count the active users on one hand. Now is the time to make the change. Going with eth would be massive for this project.

Hey Paolo, sorry but sidechains that are being built around Bitcoin like the lightning network will allow for microtransactions for little or no fees.
A new day a new suggestion, what will you guys suggest tomorrow? LOL

Don't worry noone is going to raise fees that much in the near term, and from what you say fees are going to cost as much as a card... not this year, not next IMO.
For one Bitcoin is the most secure and popular blockchain. Ethereum is still in its infancy compared to the well tested Bitcoin and they may hit issues of their own in terms of scalability soon enough.

They are working on Casper and I wish them good luck with that, but until it is proven effective I have my reservations on Ethereum's scalability and speed.

BitShares... No one is using it or they have little traction. However they have very low transaction fees and they were thinking of having 0 fees implemented...
But network effect and user adoption with them is 0 at the moment. I was following them when they did their massive token sales and attempted a DAO, it was so complicated, there was confusing information all over BitsharesTalk that a newbie could only get lost to find anything useful easily. So glad I didn't waste my money on it.

Open Ledger is trying hard to get people on it (I know Ronny, met him in London last year), but I don't know many people who are actually using it.
I do like what they are trying, but it will be a while before it takes off if ever, with all the competition and wish you guys all the best.

Not sure if you have seen Yodark's last message, it explains pretty well what the team is concentrating on and I think unless it is a major issue in the near term (which I doubt)
they better stick to making the game as awesome as possible. Nice of you thinking ahead though.

If and when there will be an issue with BTC I'm sure the team will keep an eye on alternatives however I personally don't believe it is something to worry about right now.
Having a mix of blockchains can be really confusing for new users, have you thought about that, user experience? Especially new non-crypto users that know nothing about crypto tokens?

If push comes to shove it will be trivial to create tokens on Ethereum or another blockchain for BCY and cards, may cost a bit in Tx fees for users and SoG but things can be swapped one by one.
Current users are well used to Counterparty, there are swapbots that allow many in the community to participate in the economy and sell cards... It's not a small change you are proposing.
Some may not even want to go through all this and could cause people to loose interest in the game altogether.

And the way I see blockchain integration in SoG is merely to show your cards in your account as it is now. Blockchain-based cards can be exchanged outside the game.

   The Bitcoin Problem, changing blockchain for a better User Experience

  Hallo to all, I see a big market and techinical problem around the relationship between a blockchained card game like Spell of Genesis and bitcoin blockchain.

  Bitcoin blockchain is slow, but this isn't the main issue. The main issue are the fees.

  Currently Core Devs are doing their best to realize a specific vision :
  
1) small blocksize
2) very high onchain fee
3) a lot of offchain transaction throgh the Lightin Network protocols and sidechains ( Blockstream products)

In this vision, the counterparty protocol is not suitable for cards. Some cards have an high value but the most of the cards worth a very little amount of bitcoins. In the future, the near future, fees will be more than the value of those cards.

Right now is not cleare if and WHEN counterparty protocol could eventualy use offchain transactions.

So my proposal is this: change blockchain with a controlled process

The two most interesting blockchains for SOG are:

1) Ethereum blockchain, powerful but still diffcult to handle
2) Bitshares blockchain, less powerful but very easy to manage


I don't think that is so difficult to add a system that control more than a blockchain in SOG, that's a trivial function, so some cards for same time could exist in the bitcoin blockchain and other card in eth or bts blockchain.

The problem is the switch for the old cards and eventualy bitcrystals. This topic have to handled whit special care.

I know that this new topic add other stress to the sog team, but I realy thing that in a very near time, bitcoin blockchain will be a problem not an opportunity.

Thanks in Advance
Viva!

p.s I know more the bitshares blockchian because currently i'm working with the open ledger team, but i do think that also the eth blockchain fit perfectly with Sog .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1479359.40
my name is Paolo Rebuffo



  

Thanks for your positive reaction

Whats the new low for today guys?

Definitely in the running for being delisted.

BUY SATOSHI CARD, A VERY RARE SPELLS OF GENESIS BLOCKCHAIN-BASED TRADING CARD!

https://swapbot.tokenly.com/bot/mscollec/satoshicard#choose

Nobody is hostage, if after the token sale you wanted to come out of BCY you would have had plenty of occasion at a very convenient profit.
Some of the cards are a little bit more expensive than others but you don't have to buy them all unless you are like me who likes to collect them!

Yes this you did really have. First collect IPO and then take all investors for hostages and sell them over priced cards because they hope to get money from it and delay launch day again and again and continue selling for hostages expesive cards. GG.

Hoping the price will go up, thank you yodark for clarifying our doubts in a good manner

I have sent an interested buyer your way, please do respond to his DM 

Would love to buy the bundle or at least a Satoshi, sent you a DM :0)

I have 5 genesis cards, 1 Sarutobi card, and 2 Satoshi card and something called a Sagovotepub but it might be unrelated
And possibly more (it's on my laptop, I'll check). I was a fairly large Crowdsale participant. I'd be happy to discount them some if you are interested in buying them bulk.

there are several ways to sell your cards. Please join the slack at

https://spellsofgenesis.signup.team/

so we can explain to you in more detail how to go about selling your cards on a swapbot or on the DEX. Some people also just post sell offers here on the forum (see my offer for FLYINGBLAZE above) and make private trades with trusted parties. However if you are a new user, I don´t know how much success you will have using that method.

That said, please post what cards you are looking to sell and what price you are asking. 

Can someone tell me how I can sell some SOG cards?

Getgems posted an update yesterday and have done so every month before that.

https://medium.com/@GetGems

I agree they have not be that active otherwise.

Thanks for getting back Yodark I have full faith in the game, I do believe the coin is important as others are saying but to me the most important is the success of the game.
If the game is successful once it hist the apple and Google stores I do not believe however that most gamers will be into BitCrystals and will mainly use in-app purchases as not that many people are willing or want to know about BitCrystals and/or Bitcoin (they will need both).

So in my opinion you guys have taken the right approach by concentrating on the game and try to make it fun and worthwhile.

I also do agree that people should be more positive rather than complain.

Someone made the GEMZ example, they haven't released an update in ages, people are using Telegram instead, the project is not being very proactive.
Instead SoG is around, it's delivering new updates every month and the team is actively working on the project.

I have no doubt SoG is going to be here to stay as well as on Poloniex.