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johnyj

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Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 07:33:35 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 07:18:22 PM

Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 02:58:40 PM

It's collusion, and depending on how it's done it can definitely be illegal.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/multimillion-dollar-settlements-reached-in-lcd-price-fixing-class-action-1.2000656

Then OPEC must be carrying this illegal activity for several decades. And FED is the banking alliance to control and fix the price of the dollar for more than 100 years

There are a lot of people that do think OPEC is illegal, and the US Congress has rumbled every once in awhile about declaring it so. The Fed example is silly, that is not companies in an open market colluding to fix prices.

All the DRAM manufacturers could say "OPEC! The FED!" until they're blue in the face. It didn't stop them from getting hit with hundreds of millions in fines for price fixing.

Money is just like any other commodities openly traded on market, so the same rule applies. In fact, any bitcoin miner is a distributed central banker, of course they don't have to hold FOMC meeting to manipulate the money supply and interest rate to raise or lower dollar's value, since all the rules has been written in code in protocol

And a law can not be applied across country boarder, the actions against Samsung is more likely to be caused by some government officials to protect their domestic merchants

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Quote from: thomas_s on January 29, 2015, 02:57:09 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 02:54:14 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 01:05:57 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 12:06:39 PM

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?

It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means

In the USA there is an antitrust law preventing companies from joining together to set / fix prices and supply. Its to promote fair competition for the consumers.

about that antitrust thing, why has it not kicked in for Warner bros. and Comcast? they are trying to stop this whole "class 2" act and monopolise the communication of the USA? they want you to pay for internet you are already paying for, "oh, we cant push youtube or netflicks down our pipe quick enough, they must pay for bigger pipes... hey customer, you can pay, you are already paying for our service, its their pipes which are to small"

*customer pays * *comcast flicks switch* *customer gets 720p videos*

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Quote from: thomas_s on January 29, 2015, 02:57:09 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 02:54:14 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 01:05:57 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 12:06:39 PM

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?

It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means

In the USA there is an antitrust law preventing companies from joining together to set / fix prices and supply. Its to promote fair competition for the consumers.

This is common practice in the business world. Some just get caught. From memory remember how Samsung and Sony and a couple other TV manufacture's were price fixing their TV's to keep a premium price? They had secret board meetings and everything. Of course it still goes on, all the time. It is called greed.

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Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 07:18:22 PM

Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 02:58:40 PM

It's collusion, and depending on how it's done it can definitely be illegal.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/multimillion-dollar-settlements-reached-in-lcd-price-fixing-class-action-1.2000656

Then OPEC must be carrying this illegal activity for several decades. And FED is the banking alliance to control and fix the price of the dollar for more than 100 years

There are a lot of people that do think OPEC is illegal, and the US Congress has rumbled every once in awhile about declaring it so. The Fed example is silly, that is not companies in an open market colluding to fix prices.

All the DRAM manufacturers could say "OPEC! The FED!" until they're blue in the face. It didn't stop them from getting hit with hundreds of millions in fines for price fixing.

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Quote from: Biffa on January 28, 2015, 07:04:52 AM

Quote from: klondike_bar on January 28, 2015, 06:51:20 AM

Quote from: Syke on January 27, 2015, 09:09:00 PM

You don't need water cooling to have quiet. You just need to stop designing for maximum density. Spread the chips out and use nice quiet slow big fans. That's really all water cooling is.

If the SP20 was twice as large (same number of chips, without putting 2 chips in line of the airflow) it would run much better and quieter with 2 fans.

^very true. unfortunately the shipping size/weight=cost would be about 50% more. In any case the SP20 is quite reasonable when its running at 1200GH or less.

I wonder what the comparison of the shipping size/weight/cost of changing the specs of a SP20 to run cooler would be compared to adding the weight of water blocks, tubing and radiators to the box? More if its a sealed system with included liquid.

Yea man, I would totally be into a more silent miner. Someone has to do some thinking outside the box. With today's technology computer fans that we've been using since the 80's just has to change. Don't need a better fan or to reinvent it, need a completely different way to cool electronics that no one has thought of yet. Chemicals? Compounds? Liquids? Has to be something.

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Quote from: opentoe on January 29, 2015, 07:24:52 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 05:58:09 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on January 28, 2015, 05:55:45 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 05:48:21 AM

My predictions, three months ago: Bitcoin TLV `14, #25 - Guy Corem - Mining Forecast
BitFury revealed their mining address two days afterwards. I didn't expect to see AntPool grow so much.
Let's see how the rest of my predictions will be in 2015. It was based of BTC value of $400

The rest of Inside Bitcoin TLV lectures can be found here: Inside Bitcoins Tel Aviv 2014t
I think that it was one of the best Inside Bitcoin conferences ever. Kudos to Meni Rosenfeld.

Updated?

General comments now Guy on what you think is going to happen in the next few months?

I believe I have good visibility, however I can't give specifics due to NDAs, investors relations, etc.

Guy

Bullcrap. Listen, if you are going to hide behind the NDAs and put yourself out of the community like that then don't even mention anything at all. This Bitcoin forum should be for all to collaborate and share information, once you start putting a hierarchy on who gets to know what then you are turning it right into the same financial system we have now and why a lot of people are here. Suggestion, don't sign anymore NDAs so you don't have to say, "can't give specifics due to NDAs. This of course is my opinion.

LOL
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or

http://www.zazzle.com/non_disclosure_agreement_t_shirt-235054255385834814

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 05:58:09 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on January 28, 2015, 05:55:45 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 05:48:21 AM

My predictions, three months ago: Bitcoin TLV `14, #25 - Guy Corem - Mining Forecast
BitFury revealed their mining address two days afterwards. I didn't expect to see AntPool grow so much.
Let's see how the rest of my predictions will be in 2015. It was based of BTC value of $400

The rest of Inside Bitcoin TLV lectures can be found here: Inside Bitcoins Tel Aviv 2014t
I think that it was one of the best Inside Bitcoin conferences ever. Kudos to Meni Rosenfeld.

Updated?

General comments now Guy on what you think is going to happen in the next few months?

I believe I have good visibility, however I can't give specifics due to NDAs, investors relations, etc.

Guy

Bullcrap. Listen, if you are going to hide behind the NDAs and put yourself out of the community like that then don't even mention anything at all. This Bitcoin forum should be for all to collaborate and share information, once you start putting a hierarchy on who gets to know what then you are turning it right into the same financial system we have now and why a lot of people are here. Suggestion, don't sign anymore NDAs so you don't have to say, "can't give specifics due to NDAs. This of course is my opinion.

johnyj

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Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 02:58:40 PM

It's collusion, and depending on how it's done it can definitely be illegal.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/multimillion-dollar-settlements-reached-in-lcd-price-fixing-class-action-1.2000656

Then OPEC must be carrying this illegal activity for several decades. And FED is the banking alliance to control and fix the price of the dollar for more than 100 years

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 27, 2015, 11:59:02 PM

Snapshot of the manufacturers poll Philipma1957 ran before the mods killed it off

I find the mods action unbelievable.

Guy

Edit:
I opened a meta thread to discuss the poll removal by the mods, without any explanation:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-killing-an-hardware-manufacturers-poll-938782

Who has the best firmware? Someone that always buys Bitmain products isn't going to have a clue who has the best firmware, or customer service. To truly get honest feedback from those questions the user would need to have products from all the manufactures listed. Since I only own two of the manufacture's listed in the polls, I really can't answer them accurately.

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Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 02:58:40 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 02:54:14 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 01:05:57 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 12:06:39 PM

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?

It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means

It's collusion, and depending on how it's done it can definitely be illegal.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/multimillion-dollar-settlements-reached-in-lcd-price-fixing-class-action-1.2000656

I don't know if this is illegal, but the whole idea of bitcoin is that it works best when the miners don't trust each other. If miners start making deals, then why not make 51% attack? The more miners hate each other the better for the BTC it is

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Quote from: Minor Miner on January 29, 2015, 12:07:15 PM

Question on the SP3x machines. I have replaced 21 power supplies now (i received all the murata ones and have replaced with Emerson). The emerson power supplies I have bought in the US blink orange when I install them or run green and then 10 minutes later or so start acting up.
The Muratas that are bad keep going down every night around midnight and then are red the next day. If I swap out the bad red light ones with another machines' power supply that is always green, that power supply goes down the next day.
Anyone experience this? I will say that 70% of the machines I have run steady, but the rest are driving me insane.

1) Upgrade to latest FW.
2) We worked with Emerson to fix their FW. Some Emersons you buy on ebay have old FW and wont work. You must mark them as "generic" in /etc/mg_generic_psu file.
3) Set lower WATT limit to the failing PSUs.

If not helping, contact me on Skype.

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Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 02:54:14 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 01:05:57 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 12:06:39 PM

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?

It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means

It's collusion, and depending on how it's done it can definitely be illegal.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/multimillion-dollar-settlements-reached-in-lcd-price-fixing-class-action-1.2000656

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Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 02:54:14 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 01:05:57 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 12:06:39 PM

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?

It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means

In the USA there is an antitrust law preventing companies from joining together to set / fix prices and supply. Its to promote fair competition for the consumers.

johnyj

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 01:05:57 PM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 12:06:39 PM

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

How is that illegal?

It is just a consensus (if it ever can be reached). Even pools can be allied together to protect against a faulty fork in 2013, and against potential 51% attack if it ever happens

Imagine a vendor that have leading semi-conductor process 10nm, he can limit his production scale at a certain level so that the network hash rate increase slowly. He then could start a cloud mining service and sell the hash power at market rate, which leaves him large margin to deal with market volatility. I think that is what Bitfury means

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Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 12:06:39 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 05:10:46 AM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 04:14:49 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 05:48:21 AM

My predictions, three months ago: Bitcoin TLV `14, #25 - Guy Corem - Mining Forecast
BitFury revealed their mining address two days afterwards. I didn't expect to see AntPool grow so much.
Let's see how the rest of my predictions will be in 2015. It was based of BTC value of $400

The rest of Inside Bitcoin TLV lectures can be found here: Inside Bitcoins Tel Aviv 2014t
I think that it was one of the best Inside Bitcoin conferences ever. Kudos to Meni Rosenfeld.

Nice video. That forecast did not include the bitcoin exchange rate, which is the most uncertain variable for mining as a business: Racks of machine can become paperweight when bitcoin price dive below $100

Home mining however are not affected as much since many of them are not profit oriented

Thank you. I wish I could forecast the bitcoin exchange rate

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

It's funny to read it from mega self miner.
No, it's illegal.

Guy Corem

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Quote from: Minor Miner on January 29, 2015, 12:07:15 PM

Question on the SP3x machines. I have replaced 21 power supplies now (i received all the murata ones and have replaced with Emerson). The emerson power supplies I have bought in the US blink orange when I install them or run green and then 10 minutes later or so start acting up.
The Muratas that are bad keep going down every night around midnight and then are red the next day. If I swap out the bad red light ones with another machines' power supply that is always green, that power supply goes down the next day.
Anyone experience this? I will say that 70% of the machines I have run steady, but the rest are driving me insane.

Please contact support@ and we'll schedule support session.

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maybe faulty ASICs or hi intake temp

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Question on the SP3x machines. I have replaced 21 power supplies now (i received all the murata ones and have replaced with Emerson). The emerson power supplies I have bought in the US blink orange when I install them or run green and then 10 minutes later or so start acting up.
The Muratas that are bad keep going down every night around midnight and then are red the next day. If I swap out the bad red light ones with another machines' power supply that is always green, that power supply goes down the next day.
Anyone experience this? I will say that 70% of the machines I have run steady, but the rest are driving me insane.

johnyj

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 05:10:46 AM

Quote from: johnyj on January 29, 2015, 04:14:49 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 05:48:21 AM

My predictions, three months ago: Bitcoin TLV `14, #25 - Guy Corem - Mining Forecast
BitFury revealed their mining address two days afterwards. I didn't expect to see AntPool grow so much.
Let's see how the rest of my predictions will be in 2015. It was based of BTC value of $400

The rest of Inside Bitcoin TLV lectures can be found here: Inside Bitcoins Tel Aviv 2014t
I think that it was one of the best Inside Bitcoin conferences ever. Kudos to Meni Rosenfeld.

Nice video. That forecast did not include the bitcoin exchange rate, which is the most uncertain variable for mining as a business: Racks of machine can become paperweight when bitcoin price dive below $100

Home mining however are not affected as much since many of them are not profit oriented

Thank you. I wish I could forecast the bitcoin exchange rate

Have you ever considered in forming an alliance like OPEC to limit the hash rate race? Wink

I just saw Bitfury said that their cloud service would only add hardware based on demand, is this a trend towards more cloud based service?

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 29, 2015, 10:34:22 AM

Quote from: Biodom on January 29, 2015, 10:32:41 AM

Big thanks to Guy for the help with my small issue. As always, SPT is the best in post sales support.

You know where to vote Wink

i already did even beforehand Grin

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