Mods killing an hardware manufacturers poll

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Quote from: dogie on January 28, 2015, 05:14:13 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 03:27:53 PM

I'm not under stress and I'm not annoyed about anything. Life is good.

Then there is for some of the things you've come out with in this thread.

Dogie, I'm too tired to try and understand cryptic messages.
I also don't want to keep arguing with you, it's very tiresome.

I kindly request that you'll use better judgment before using "report to moderator" button. Don't be technicalities stickler.

Same goes to the mods, please don't use the delete function carelessly.

I intend to keep finding ways to add life, colors and intetest to Hardware subsection.

So far I did the Legendaries review which other manufacturers and forum members copy and the maunfcturares hardware poll.

Guy

Edit: I want to lock this topic. I'll do it in few hours.
Biffa came up with a nice solution to do the poll externally, unfortunately, it's open to all and not only to forum members.

Edit2: Topic locked.

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Quote from: cryptopaths on January 28, 2015, 06:26:51 PM

1st. You're the youngest donator I've ever seen (by forum join date)
2nd. Having like 5 polls open on a similar subject is probably spam.

1. So?
2. Discussed at length in this thread

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1st. You're the youngest donator I've ever seen (by forum join date)
2nd. Having like 5 polls open on a similar subject is probably spam.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 03:27:53 PM

I'm not under stress and I'm not annoyed about anything. Life is good.

Then there is for some of the things you've come out with in this thread.

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Quote from: dogie on January 28, 2015, 02:25:42 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 02:00:39 PM

- You've used technicalities to shut down a poll you didn't like for some reason

I did not, a forum administrator did. Unfortunately it seems that by the administrator in question not showing their face, you're instead blaming me.... great.

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 02:00:39 PM

On a personal note, Dogie, I'm truly disappointed by your action and the inabilities to admit an error.
You're trying to hide behind an imaginary crowd of "people who made a report". It's pitiful and pathetic.
I thought you're better than that.

And while I respect that you might be under stress or annoyed by the matters which we can't speak about on the forums, I too am dismayed by you turning this needlessly personal.

"It's not me, it's the moderators". Let's work step by step here.

Do you admit you didn't like Philip poll ? A yes or no reply will do.

Guy

btw:
I'm not under stress and I'm not annoyed about anything. Life is good.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 02:00:39 PM

- You've used technicalities to shut down a poll you didn't like for some reason

I did not, a forum administrator did. Unfortunately it seems that by the administrator in question not showing their face, you're instead blaming me.... great.

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 02:00:39 PM

On a personal note, Dogie, I'm truly disappointed by your action and the inabilities to admit an error.
You're trying to hide behind an imaginary crowd of "people who made a report". It's pitiful and pathetic.
I thought you're better than that.

And while I respect that you might be under stress or annoyed by the matters which we can't speak about on the forums, I too am dismayed by you turning this needlessly personal.

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Quote from: dogie on January 28, 2015, 11:48:00 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 10:48:53 AM

I can't prove it of course, but without Dogie's hypocritic complaint, the poll would have continue without interruption.

Multiple people have said now, that's just not true. If I was included within the many people who made a report, or not, or was dead, those threads would have still have been deleted.

I'll say it for the last time:

- Philip did a technical error in the place he posted the poll questions
- Once the poll questions were answered by forum members, they can't be regarded as spam and they shouldn't have been deleted. It's unbelievable brutal action to delete a thread with answered poll question. It should have been moved instead
- You've used technicalities to shut down a poll you didn't like for some reason

On a personal note, Dogie, I'm truly disappointed by your action and the inabilities to admit an error.
You're trying to hide behind an imaginary crowd of "people who made a report". It's pitiful and pathetic.
I thought you're better than that.

Guy

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Quote from: mavericklm on January 28, 2015, 04:48:26 AM

Quote from: tss on January 28, 2015, 04:42:09 AM

ok spamdoolie.. you have good equipment and great support. don't throw it all away and become a spam monster. it was enough when you had the giveaway and all hardware posts were yours.. but one poster and all those posts.. that's a bit much.

Spam? like the 6 bitmain threads and 5 dogie threads on the main hardware page?

yes it's all pretty much spam regardless of the manufacturer in question. just because one does it doesn't mean the rest should follow suit in nefarious behavior.

just because the street is littered in garbage doesn't mean you should throw yours on top of it.

be a good company and lead by example. in this case it's behaving badly and then complaining about being put in time out. quite sad for what i thought was a stand up member.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 28, 2015, 10:42:24 AM

The thread was deleted because it was spam, normally the procedure of dealing with spam is deleting it, not moving it.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 10:48:53 AM

I can't prove it of course, but without Dogie's hypocritic complaint, the poll would have continue without interruption.

Multiple people have said now, that's just not true. If I was included within the many people who made a report, or not, or was dead, those threads would have still have been deleted.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 28, 2015, 10:42:24 AM

It's likely that other members also reported the thread(s). Not just dogie, they would of been in their right as confirmed by multiple staff members. If this is going to turn into a personal argument between you and dogie maybe you should take it elsewhere. The thread was deleted because it was spam, normally the procedure of dealing with spam is deleting it, not moving it. There's no hard ship in making the thread again, especially since most of the text will be stored in drafts. Of course you lost the votes from before, but you can ask politely if they would vote again. My perception is that theymos was kind for providing you with a alternative.

I see that it's now off site.

Indeed, I will lock this thread soon. I can't prove it of course, but without Dogie's hypocritic complaint, the poll would have continue without interruption.
Why hypocritic ? He posted in one of the poll questions thread. No way to prove it now, since the mod deleted them ...

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It's likely that other members also reported the thread(s). Not just dogie, they would of been in their right as confirmed by multiple staff members. If this is going to turn into a personal argument between you and dogie maybe you should take it elsewhere. The thread was deleted because it was spam, normally the procedure of dealing with spam is deleting it, not moving it. There's no hard ship in making the thread again, especially since most of the text will be stored in drafts. Of course you lost the votes from before, but you can ask politely if they would vote again. My perception is that theymos was kind for providing you with a alternative.

I see that it's now off site.

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Quote from: dogie on January 28, 2015, 10:37:45 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 09:34:34 AM

To the mods, please use more judgement when you see reports from Dogie. I believe the mod action here were totally wrong.

As I said above, your concentrating on me when I have absolutely nothing to do with it. If I'd gone to bed a bit earlier and not reported the one post, we'd STILL be waking up to this meta thread because your threads STILL would have been deleted.

A mod still would have attended and done the same due to other reports, or a few hours later a patrolling mod would have seen them and done the same.

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 09:34:34 AM

Go seek help or life. Stop ruining good things other people tries to do in the Hardware subsection. You suck the life out of it.

Guy

That's not cool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_tears

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 09:34:34 AM

To the mods, please use more judgement when you see reports from Dogie. I believe the mod action here were totally wrong.

As I said above, your concentrating on me when I have absolutely nothing to do with it. If I'd gone to bed a bit earlier and not reported the one post, we'd STILL be waking up to this meta thread because your threads STILL would have been deleted.

A mod still would have attended and done the same due to other reports, or a few hours later a patrolling mod would have seen them and done the same.

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 09:34:34 AM

Go seek help or life. Stop ruining good things other people tries to do in the Hardware subsection. You suck the life out of it.

Guy

That's not cool

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Quote from: dogie on January 28, 2015, 08:10:08 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 07:52:31 AM

Well, you admitted that you reported the poll thread questions, so it's not.

I reported one post of 6 threads, alongside many, many others. You posted / had something posted in an inappropriate form (as mentioned by 3 admins now) and so it was removed.
I'm not sure why that is on me...

"It's not me, it's the mods":

Quote from: dogie on January 27, 2015, 06:17:11 PM

How about:
6a) Which manufacturer pays legendary members who are known to be positive towards their company, to commission and adjudicate polls that are biased towards their company, because they were unhappy with another user's ranking, and then tries to hide that they're actually the company paying for and commissioning them?
6b) Which manufacturer used a preorder model? [can't do this one on the forums, should really be doing this on survey monkey anyway]
6c) Which manufacturer should just be patient and await their perfect '100' score in dogie's rating if they follow through with promises, rather than going through all this and making things worse for themselves?
6d) Which manufacturer should stop trying to drag other's name through the dirt in order to fit a short term agenda, which through the virtue of NDAs can not be discussed, even when the topic / question is directly brought up by themselves?

Go seek help or life. Stop ruining good things other people tries to do in the Hardware subsection. You suck the life out of it.

Guy

Edit:
To the mods, please use more judgement when you see reports from Dogie. I believe the mod action here were totally wrong.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 07:52:31 AM

Well, you admitted that you reported the poll thread questions, so it's not.

I reported one post of 6 threads, alongside many, many others. You posted / had something posted in an inappropriate form (as mentioned by 3 admins now) and so it was removed.
I'm not sure why that is on me...

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Quote from: dogie on January 28, 2015, 07:51:20 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 01:10:42 AM

Edit: I didn't raise "conspiracy theories" levels questions - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10285563

Well, yes you did:

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 27, 2015, 11:54:38 PM

I can't prove it, but I'm hearing sinister dog barks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g92VWIu8NQ

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 27, 2015, 11:45:07 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 27, 2015, 11:31:34 PM

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Please note polls were deleted by the forum mods.-----------

I would still prefer to do a survey of current miners / gear.

Dogie, is it you barking again to the moderators ?

Well, you admitted that you reported the poll thread questions, so it's not.

Recommended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g92VWIu8NQ#t=20s

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 01:10:42 AM

Edit: I didn't raise "conspiracy theories" levels questions - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10285563

Well, yes you did, both of these are older than the post you quoted (at the bottom)

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 27, 2015, 11:54:38 PM

I can't prove it, but I'm hearing sinister dog barks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g92VWIu8NQ

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 27, 2015, 11:45:07 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 27, 2015, 11:31:34 PM

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Please note polls were deleted by the forum mods.-----------

I would still prefer to do a survey of current miners / gear.

Dogie, is it you barking again to the moderators ?

Quote from: notlist3d on January 28, 2015, 01:05:28 AM

Truly sad to see it closed. I will not post my thoughts, just that I think someone has a lot of pull on what happens. Apparently this poll he did not like.

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Quote from: BadBear on January 28, 2015, 07:40:18 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 07:37:30 AM

Quote from: BadBear on January 28, 2015, 07:34:51 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 04:32:26 AM

I didn't made up my mind. Please read the thread.
Direct question: Did you delete the poll posts ?

Why? If I say yes, you're just going to focus on me instead of the issue. If I say no, then you are one step closer, through the process of elimination, to finding who did do it so you can pester them.

I'm not looking for a witch hunt. I suggested reasonable solution. Moving the threads from Trash to Acrhival per Theymos guideline and let the poll continue.

What's wrong with this ?

That's up to Philip, not you. He expressed some discontent with how it was going.

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 27, 2015, 08:35:53 PM

Quote from: Zich on January 27, 2015, 08:14:29 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/ifuoknvk9/pool.jpg

You just skewed the poll. I wish you had asked.

I agree that it should be left to Philip to decide if he wants to continue the poll or not.
I do ask that poll questions will be moved from trash to Archival anyway.

Guy

Edit:
btw, it's ok to admit that the moderator action in this case where too rush and severe. Deleting a poll forum members took time to reply is a brutal action by a mod in my book.
Philip did a technical error when setting the poll, Dogie reporting was childish and expected, the mod should have been more cautious.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 07:37:30 AM

Quote from: BadBear on January 28, 2015, 07:34:51 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on January 28, 2015, 04:32:26 AM

I didn't made up my mind. Please read the thread.
Direct question: Did you delete the poll posts ?

Why? If I say yes, you're just going to focus on me instead of the issue. If I say no, then you are one step closer, through the process of elimination, to finding who did do it so you can pester them.

I'm not looking for a witch hunt. I suggested reasonable solution. Moving the threads from Trash to Acrhival per Theymos guideline and let the poll continue.

What's wrong with this ?

That's up to Philip, not you. He expressed some discontent with how it was going.

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 27, 2015, 08:35:53 PM

Quote from: Zich on January 27, 2015, 08:14:29 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/ifuoknvk9/pool.jpg

You just skewed the poll. I wish you had asked.

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