The Bitfury chip may be able to run at 0.38 JOULES/GH, not watts/GH, it's a measure of energy, not power, (just another little detail which shows up your lack of knowledge) and their chip runs in a mode call Sub Threshold where is sacrifices speed for lower energy per GH by using a lower supply voltage than normal. I'm sure that the ST guys and any other competent designers will confirm that their chips could run at much lower J/GH figures if they ramp down the voltage.
The trouble is with this scenario - and read this carefully here because you might have considerable difficulty in understanding it - is that the lower voltage makes the chip run slower, a lot slower. To get the same number of GH/second as a full voltage chip you need more chips, thus making the advantage of low energy/GH useless.
Did I say you should expect more hashrate when undervolting/underclocking? I thought that much was assumed. Does the lowered hashrate change the fact that a 55nm chip is still the most efficient chip to date?
It's amusing that you insult my lack of knowledge and then suggest that there is a difference between measuring w/gh and j/gh. 1 W(J/s)/GH = 1 J/s/GH.
You say the reason you want to know about compensation is so you can make informed decisions about whether to buy from ST in the future. This is rubbish, you simply want to make trouble for a competitor in whatever way you can, but you wrap it up in 'concerns' and criticism to try to get the community wound up.
So just because I own a very small amount of AM shares, my opinion is automatically void because obviously I'm a shill? If looked at my posts you would find I support plenty of companies which are not AM. I've said it before and will say it again, I would support SPtech if they would just drop the preorders.
I'm not lying when I say I would buy from SPtech in the future. They have the best support and great hardware. But at current prices there is no chance.
You really should give this up before you embarrass yourself further. You made a statement designed to demean the ST chip against a competitors without explaining the tech behind the apparent 'better' performance from the latter. That's not what good engineers do, they can only compare two devices by giving them the same operating conditions or by explaining how results come about from testing. Lower power consumption does not equate to higher efficiency, I don't have the motivation to explain it to you, so you'll have to work it out for yourself.
As for W/GH and J/GH, they are NOT the same. I would gladly explain to you if I thought you might be capable of understanding what I said, but you clearly won't. Watts are a measure of power, Joules of energy. They are NOT the same, although again it's amusing that you think you can argue that they are.
I have no interest in what you buy of from whom but I'll be damned if I'll sit back and watch amateurs use misinformation to try to put down the technology of good companies that might pose a threat to their interests. I've read quite a lot of your comments about several companies, not much constructive criticism or support in there, is there? Not a lot of criticism of AM either, funnily enough, but I guess you feel you don't have to as they're going to 'crush' the competition, eh? I have the distinct feeling that you're going to regret ever having said that.
From now on, why don't you leave the technical stuff to the grown ups and stick to what you do best - entertainment?
While I'm writing can I also remind you that you haven't as yet done the ROI comparison between the AM solution and the SP30 I suggested? I'd really love to see it and I'll bet a lot of other would too, so get busy.
To the Spondoolies people, sorry for taking up space in your thread. I'm sure you have a lot on your plate at the moment but what you don't need is opportunists using this situation to push their own agendas.
