Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 406. (Read 1260290 times)

@murdoff

Sp10s shipped from stock which made it far easier to ROI
Also sp10s had a known spec I.e u knew what you were getting for what you paid

Same can't be said to the sp30 its apples to oranges brah

Of course I've seen that post, but it really tells me nothing,
The compensation I was offered is insufficient , like I said late shipping +
Less hashrate

Three months to ROI is not to short, my inital calculations based on the original 5.4 th and 2500 watt usage along
With a middle of August delivery had me making ROI in three months

Currently there no way I make ROI  in less thank 5  six months now which I unacceptable

Not needing a refund because you get the equipment you ordered and it can roi would be better to me from experience. if you prefer to lose money/bitcoins; whatever floats your boat 

You have the option for a full refund if not satisfied with the compensation. From  experience it does not get any better than this in the world of Bitcoin mining companies. 

From my little experience I have understood that all manufacturers have a better view on difficulty than us, as they have more or less the same suppliers so they know what the competition will throw in the market and when.
Guy has already mentioned examples of other companies and what they can and can not achieve.

So I have seen that if you take all calculators and have some pretty rough numbers you will see that the price you pay for the hardware ROIs in around 3 months time.
Hence my understanding is that manufacturers set a price point with that target in mind.

Customers want ROI in 3 months so manufacturers will sell to those that are willing to take that risk and still sell at the highest price that they can.
If you told a customer that it takes 6 months to ROI nobody would buy a miner.

So from SP10 experience we see the same posts again and again. SP10 will not ROI. People were showing the same charts again and again with 12-16% diff increase and suddenly we had 3%, 5%, 8%. There were posts by SP that difficulty will not rise that fast.
Well my SP10s will ROI in 10 days. That is 75 days after I got them. Note that power cost is not included - so if I take that into consideration then actual ROI will be about 90-100 days.

So manufacturers don't really come out and say that your miner will ROI in 3 months but I assume they do have in their minds this number to set their price point.

Not sure if bad intended or just missed this post

When did mining become all about ROI in less than 3 months?

Mining rewards have become less and ROI periods therefore longer in the last year.

We alse saw / see a slow down in average difficulty increase, exactly what you would expect when rewards get thinner.


The notion that mining will forever be the most profitable investment on the planet is utterly flawed.

It will eventually level out to something like electricity used + small incentive to keep mining.
How big this incentive will turn out to be depends on the mining community as a whole.

The statos quo still has some very nice ROI periods and therefore profits to be made.

So honestly why would we not just get refunds at this point , with the current diff plus hosting costs its not really possible to break in less than three months , and who knows what the diff will be by then.  The big problem is we need

Compensation for not only missed hash rate and slow shipping it took too long to let 
Us know what the compensation would be if anything.

Someone tell me I'm wrong about these currently Aug machines creating ROI

so we have to undervolt/modify it to even get 4500gh??  please tell me i read that wrong! THIS is in fact 2 questions.... no, you get 4500 +-5% as is. Yes you are reading this wrong.

i asked yesterday if i can expect it to arrive before the 31st when i am away for 2 weeks - This is/was a question too - I don't manage shipping.

Shipping time from spondoolies to the US is typically 2 days, you will receive the miner on the second day after shipment.

It should therefore be safe to say that pure shipping time shouldn´t be more than 2-3 days, unless you live at the proverbial end of the world.

Edgar,
I'm sorry for missing your question.
We're starting to ship the GB today. I don't know if you'll receive it before the 31st

Guy

I think you mean anyone who invested in AM at IPO price. That was 2 years ago. The ones that bought at higher prices (4-6 BTC comes in mind) got no ROI because same as mining the ones that get in early get the most return.(hint: that's why I overpay for faster delivery). So stop comparing your AM experience with the others because it's not the same.

I sold nothing. Spondoolies-Tech sold the miners and as Guy previously said there were considerably less than 200.

You know, it wouldn't kill you to show some measure of decorum and courtesy.  I don't appreciate being called 'ball-bag'.  That is rather impolite and I take offense to such unwarranted attacks.

The only way to break even from this disaster is if they shipped you a second SP30 along with
the one you paid $4500 for for free at the same time.  Then you would still be pushing it giving
your hosting or power bill just went to double.

The group buy price which clearly advertised   -   SP30 pre-order - Specs: 0.69$/GH + 0.46W/GH
Is what was advertised and promised over and over.  Now they want to back tread to oh well it was
really only maybe possibly probably MIGHT be 5.4TH/s after promising 6.5TH/s ?  Plus a utter failure
on power usage too.
But still dont want to compensate for that.  Oh just give them a coupon for more stuff in October,
Oh yah it will ship again the last day of October, and its all good right.  Please.  
Send a message, everyone who was in the group buy ask for a refund, lets see what happens and if
they honor that.
These bullshit preorder ripoffs, make more money for the manufacture schemes need to end.

Seriously?
I wrote multiple times asking for a full refund and was ignored.
I had to go through the pain in the ass process of trying to sell my order to someone else and
trying to transfer to them, waiting a week for them to be happy so I could get my payment
released, then the BTC price tanked and lost money again in the process.
NOW you say you are accepting requests for refunds?
Seriously?
This is just a never ending joke.
On top of that, the shipping is pretty much on the last day of the month.
WOW, you are really going to call that August shipping when you mentioned earlier that
it would be mid August shipping.
After the last 20% increase in difficulty Im soooooo glad I decided to jump ship from this
sinking mining dabocle. 
It sounded good at the beginning but just another preorder disaster.
Even at 4K NOW shipped today for an SP30, its a waste of fkng money.

would it be too much to stick a 1600W power supply in there so this hashing difference would not manifest itself?
just asking...
why are you up at 5am pulling an allnighter? loading SW/FW on GB miners?
i can see advantages in self assembly to a degree, but i am glad (at the moment) that I did not order this one
http://jahlives.com/Rack/Tubes/screwed.jpg

I am a person who paid for your (2500w) product ...aka - CURRENT CUSTOMER

i asked yesterday if i can expect it to arrive before the 31st when i am away for 2 weeks - This is/was a question too

All my questions among others have been 'overlooked', does that mean i am now firmly in the idiot/troll camp??

or is there some other explanation why rawdog (non-paying ball-bag) gets 3-4 stupid answers to stupid shit, while I (the paying customer) gets to repeat myself ad nauseum...

SP30 and SP31 have same PSU and pull same power.
They can not pull 3kw in 120v, they are limited to about 2.5Kw, and there is reduction in performance.
I don't remember how much  exactly, maybe someone here who has 110V can answer.

I think people already documented that it hashes at around 4-4.1TH on 110/120V (vs 4.4-4.5 on 220/240V), but, yes, each powersupply can go to a 20A circuit, so two 20A circuits would be sufficient.

A quick question about the statements on the product page for the SP31 indicating that 220v should be used.

I recognize that if the SP31 pulls 3kw at the wall which would trip a 20amp 120v line. I've multiple 20amp circuits and I don't want to pay to have 220v service moved into the closet. I presume that the power is evenly distributed across the two 1200w power supplies? Thus, plugging each one into a separate 20amp 120v circuit will work without any reduction in performance?

Any one doing this?