Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 494. (Read 1260354 times)

Sorry, but I don't believe the final SP30 will be designed with two 1200W power supplies, if it was just that then 120v would be fully supported. I believe the wattage is going to be much higher, and that is why 120V is not recommend and probably not even worth looking at.  What kind of magic happens at 208v on a 1200W power supply that a 120V on a 1200W supply cant give the same amount? It doesn't make ANY sense to me, and that is why I have been holding out, and will continue to hold out. I am thinking those power supplies would be 1800W-2000W, and now that would make MUCH more sense to me why you would want it on a 208V-240V circuit.

Perhaps I am wrong, and will have to eat my words. But please give me a reason why 120v would not work if I had two 20 amp circuits and the power supplies were only 1200W. Don't give me that stuff that a 120V circuit cannot supply enough voltage if its only 1200W.  120V*20amp=2400 - 25% = 1800W max on continuous load.

Hello All, can someone please tell me what was the total price of hosting per SP30 in the US Datacenter?

Setup Fee?
Customs?
Hosting per month?

thank you

If they were anywhere near 6TH, they'd do like AntMiner and just say: oops, sorry about that, we are 7.7% off target here is a coupon - and just keep going.  1 day of discontent and its over.  The reason they are silent is because they are not even close.  My bet, they can't even make 4.2TH.  This would cause a radio silence while they all try to think of ways to deal with the impending bankruptcy.  

And to think, everyone in Israel thinks the big problem of the day is rockets from Gaza.  Only SPT has bigger nightmares.  Now I'll bet Spondoolies actually WANTS a Gaza rocket to hit their labs.  This way, they can just blame the whole thing on the Palestinians.  lol.

I'm running at 240v, can never get to 1.4. Zvisha looked at my logs and told me 1.3 is the best I'm going to get with my unit.

It officially stated 6TH +/-10 % on their website, and the 6TH figure was also repeated as the new "normal" figure on the forums (and spondoolies even proposed that it might be higher).

The chip is rated
This speed was also given when tapeout was announced.

I saw statements as high as 6.5 somewhere in this topic.

yeah … here is is:

Yes, I agree we shouldn´t speculate.

As for the hashrate of the sp30, it was quite offensively marketed as 6TH (+/-10%, against the Neptune if I remember correctly) so this should be the basis for any compensation (along with the 0.4W/GH).

Ok, but then, let's not engage in speculating on who is responsible as well (TMSC or somebody at SPT))

Are you on US power (120V) or other?  Also, what are your voltage settings?  I have one of the May batch SP10s running in my home, and after tweaking the settings, it hashes at 1.4TH/s, pulling about 1200W from the wall.

The initially announced specs were 5.4TH/s, which Spondoolies-Tech later upped to 6TH/s (+- 10%).  I'm guessing actual implementation is showing 4.5-5TH/s... but we won't know actuals until Spondoolies-Tech announces the results of their testing.

Thankfully opinions don´t change the hashrate a unit achieves (or my sp10 would already hash at 100TH).

Let´s wait and see what spondoolies will tell soon.

OK, then. We can make a poll as to what TH Sp-30 will be at:
In my opinion 4-4.5Th. If it is at 3-3.5 th-then it is a shocker.

Slow corner asics are typically sorted out by testing, only allowing typical/typical and fast/fast asics to be implemented in the miners.

That being said, spondoolies probably had no other option than to ship miners with the chips they had in-hand.

I wonder if it has anything to do with slow corner ASICS again. Still bummed out my May batch never goes above 1.3 and I don't even want to know what it pulls at the wall since I had to increase voltage just to get 1.3thash. Was expecting 1.5 based off of the previous batch. 

Yes, I will get my July sp30 in the next days.

I am obviously not immune in my desire to speculate, as any naturally curious person isn´t.

I think that it is all speculation (Edit: I see that you added the note on the same after the initial post) until we know the facts.
Were there some SP-30 that were sold as early (July) batch? If so, they would have to be shipped by July 30 and then we would know everything.

This either means the chip is designed with a slight fault, or certain production methods at TSMC caused the chip to underperform. (or some mixture of the two)

The comment really suggests the latter.

Guy also seems to be fairly confident that it is not a packaging issue, and that it can be fixed for future chip batches (which would be great news.)

If TSMC is at fault, spondoolies might get the new and improved mask at a discount.
If it is more a question of implementing certain requirements posed by TSMC, it should really have been corrected during (initial) tapeout.

Again, this is pure speculation (which I actually resent) so please wait for spondoolies to comment and don´t take any of my suggestions too seriously.

I sure hope you are wrong that its not an issue from the foundry speculation or not

Obviously overdelivering is always better, and yes, their previous estimations of "6TH per sp30" are now going to be very costly for them.

On the other hand, spondoolies raked the cash in for 6TH miners, and are now going to find a way to make every customer whole.

While overpromising could be considered a rookie mistake, keep in mind that even bitmain overpromised on their S3 by about 10%, offering refunds in that amount.

They didn´t have a worse efficiency though and atleast my S3 (which I bought just for fun) actually does 500GH after some tweaking.


The tests from spondoolies, including stress tests under high temperatures, should give everyone a solid number as to what they can expect from their sp30s.

I am still a little unsure as to how they can be certain that the chip isn´t as good as it should be (and not some other component is at fault) without specific chip testing, but they probably found a way to eliminate certain possibilities.

However, I doubt the foundry is at fault, but spondoolies would then be able to hopefully get some compensation.
I also don´t know how they have ruled out bad /non-optimal chip packaging as a source of lower efficiency.
(I know that certain materials used to connect the inner connections with the pins at the outside of the package can be problematic and create a  slightly lower efficiency).

This is all pure speculation and once spondoolies has solid numbers and a compensation plan for customers, I am sure we are going to learn more about the specific nature of the problem(s).
That is if this doesn´t give away any of spondoolies IP.

Their arrogance is biting them in the ass, should have played it cool.

If there is nothing to tell, why would they tell you "no update yet"?

There is obviously some major testing and firmware building needed to address the issues, and spondoolies wants to be certain that provided specs are accurate and reproducable.

July batch will be shipped in July and final specs will be released in July.