Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 497. (Read 1260354 times)

SP30s are a continuous load (they are expected to run for 3 hours or longer at a time at full load), which means that their loads have to be multiplied by 125% before comparing the load to the circuit ampacity.

125% * 2750W / 220V = 15.0 amps. There's a chance you might be able to put that on a 15 amp circuit without tripping any breakers, but you should be planning for the worst, not for the best. Typical circuit breakers will have a moderate to high chance of tripping if they are loaded at a continuous 80% of their rated capacity.

http://advanceelectricaltraining.com/advance-electrical-training/continuous-loads-decoded/

The 125% (or 80%) rule is all over the place in the National Electric Code. It's also how circuit breakers generally work. You can get away with loading circuits higher than that sometimes, but it's basically the electrician equivalent of overclocking. You shouldn't do it unless you have a back-up plan and don't care much about breaking laws and tripping breakers.

Looking forward to my (hosted) sp30.

Compensation for less efficiency might be best given (as an option) in the form of cheaper longterm hosting, but let´s wait and see how the final specs will turn out.
(Therefore only the lower total hashrate would still need compensation)

In the meantime I wish spondoolies the best of luck in trying to configure the miner and firmware as best as possible.

LOL...I follow "happy wife, happy life" routine. It has been working so far.

LOL , I thought you need to be 13 yo to register

It's funny that you talk about stoves and driers...at least in my household, I was told to stay clear of these two...they are sacred  .

All residential in US has 240V but split in 2 phases. This is true even for apartment buildings.  Most of the stoves and driers run on 240V, so please .. almost everyone in North America has a 240V service.

As for the disclosed hashrate, they disclosed one, together with the conditions to get it. It's not their fault you live where you live or you host it where you find some decent rackspace without asking about the power requirements.

@ 220V you will need ONLY 1 (one) 15A circuit ...as SP30 is rated @ 2700W / 220V = 12.3A ONLY...

ZiG

I'd like to know this as well. It's not listed on the website as far as I can tell.


230v 50Hz should work nicely. You'll likely need one 20 amp circuit or two 15 amp circuits at 230v for each SP30.

You don't really need a rack. The SP30 should run just fine lying on a table desk, shelf, or the floor, as long as the surface it's lying on won't get damaged by persistent temperatures up to 80°C. A rack might improve airflow a little bit, but it's optional.

Yes it is a lot. The largest room in my flat is about 4.5-5m to 4,5-5m size. I may put it in the kitchen, although it is smaller in size but much cooler (away from steam sources).

Yes you are right Doh

This one looks better :-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261535485912?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649



What are the exact dimensions of the unit, please?  D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm?
Will there be any problem with plugging SP30 to 230v 50Hz mains socket?

what do you consider good and what are your evaluation criteria?

I can provide you some facts you can verify on your own when reading this thread from the beginning
*shipping from Israel
*excellent customer support
*quality hardware, data center ready, respecting specs for power cables etc
*regarding earlier sales and shipping dates, reliable
*competitive pricing
*customer satisfaction is in the focus, not own datorhalls
*honest - they do not turn silent, hide or run away if things do not turn out well (like current chips)


**disclaimer:
1) never made business with them, still on the fence
2) pre-orders are always very risky, so think twice and only spend money you can afford to loose

Yes, although they are having some problems with their new chips.
Another thing is that they are from Israel and it hasn't been the safest place to live lately.

is this a good seller of bitcoin mining hardware ?

4000KW would be a lot of heat, yes 4000W isn't much at all if you can separate the heat from anywhere humans need to be (another bedroom). Heck you can cram 10KW into a single room if you've got two windows or split flow a single window. And remember in the UK for the majority of the year, our ambient is 2-10C so free AC from outside.

You'll have to split the physical sockets those SP30s are on but they'll run off a single 32A circuit fine. I wouldn't want anything else substantial on that circuit though. Fridge, microwave etc should be fine.

Most sensible flats will have 2x 32A circuits on a 63A RLD switch.

Patient please. We'll start shipping the SP30s and release more information next week.

Guy

It has been more than a couple of days, and I see your online.  What is the scoop, Guy?

Agreed. Although there are plenty of examples of how they have been there to help their customers in the recent past so that is why I put my cash down on the SP30s. Time will tell but my assessment was that they would, should something go sideways like this, fix it so that customers would be limited to the exposure. This is a major snafu but I suspect customers will be made whole.

People will be review the compensation but I suspect it will match the 6Th/s that was promised... I don't see this being a major issue moving forward. When they do resolve these issues it will make them stand out a leader in the marketplace along with Bitmain and ROCKMINER that have satisfied customers when things went slightly sideways.

 

yes! Just like bitmain

btw I love the dawson s10 I have, except for the noise

This is truly the time when we will see what kind of company they will be. When stuff goes a bit sideways how do they react? I hope they do the right thing by you guys. We need solid, honest companies in this industry.

well then imho we be screwed...because unless they plan to give us significant $$$ back or allow the cancellation and/or full refund...

I really don't see a lot of options..in that they 1) promised 6Th and 2) can deliver on the timeline they say is unaffected and...likely ...not close to that at the same electric use

so if what you say is true..I know (again as a guess) see the only option for them to keep market share and recover on this (at least for 1st batch folks)

is that they get out a unit at the speed that they can ...even with the more then expected electricity use...and we get 'correct/fair' $$ compensation as a
% of the hashing power lost

re-reading what you say..that would likely cost them 'more' then the ship the 'two'  boxes plan I mentioned....so kinda at a loss....in what they actually will do
to 'keep' the timeline as they state

depends on how deep their pockets are I guess and how 'fair' they plan to be on all this

and as a further not 'I suppose" in that it was .....supposedly....likely as they state just this 1st batch of chips that was bad...they could just refund those
that ordered in that 1st batch ...but again you are likely correct probably more $$$ then they have..so I be stumped if your view is correct on what they can do...

anyway not looking like they are gonna have a lot of wiggle room if they are running 'close to the edge" as most asic mnfg have done $$$ wise etc

Searing

We're still working out the details on our prices for our DC. I think we're going to offer about $90/kW/month for month-to-month deals (zero commitment), with discounted rates if you pay in advance, down to maybe around $70/kW/month if you pay 12 months in advance. We should be releasing more information (and probably a video walkthrough of our facility-in-construction) next week. I expect us to be online around Aug 10th. For reference, $90/kW/month is about $0.12/kWh, and $70 is about $0.096/kWh. That includes cooling, rent, internet, electrical upgrades, etc., of course. We may also be offering a modest discount for Spondoolies miners because they're reliable and dense. Hosting 10 SP10s should be no sweat for us. Our first DC is scheduled to have about 800 kW of capacity online by late September.

Instructions on bypassing the 110V limit are below. Unlocking the current limit at low voltage will make the AC cable significantly hotter. Be careful; they shipped the miners with the default current limit for a good reason.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14433873-version-1-4-2


To create that file, you'll probably need to ssh in (download putty if you're on Windows) and run something like this:

touch /etc/mg_ignore_110_fcc

or possibly this:

sudo touch /etc/mg_ignore_110_fcc

I've burned out an electrical outlet before from running about 17 amps through one plug for several hours. Do be careful.