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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 499. (Read 1260354 times)

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That's why I said my spondoolies hosted miners hash at 1.4T because they are on 208v. But here in America, it is common to run off of 120v. Now, everything is fine if I run it all in the datacenter, but what if the hosting fee becomes too much based on BTC prices and I just want to take them back and put them in some back room at the office? As in it makes a small margin of profit running them myself without hosting, but pay hosting fees wouldn't be profit anymore at that point. Maybe everyone else doesn't think this way or have this concern...



My datacenter's hosting fees are probably comparable to or lower than your electricity prices. We'll be using >= 208V. We won't be ready to host for another two weeks, though.



In the SP10 firmware, there's an option to ignore or modify the power limit when running on 115V. You should only do this if you have a thicker-than-normal cable between the PSU and the wall (12 awg preferred, but 14 awg might be okay too).
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Not that I don't like Spondoolies, but I have yet to get 1.4T out of any of my non-spondoolies hosted miners, maybe 1.2T.

Switch on 208-240V.


That's why I said my spondoolies hosted miners hash at 1.4T because they are on 208v-240V. But here in America, it is common to run off of 120v. Now, everything is fine if I run it all in the datacenter, but what if the hosting fee becomes too much based on BTC prices and I just want to take them back and put them in some back room at the office? As in it makes a small margin of profit running them myself without hosting, but pay hosting fees wouldn't be profit anymore at that point. Maybe everyone else doesn't think this way or have this concern...

While others may not have the concern, I was also asking this same type of information about the SP30s a few months ago. We were excited to hear about the product, but I didn't end up recommending it to my company (and others interested in it) because they couldn't tell me the hash on 120v which I thought was strange.  They said it could operate on 120v, but could not disclose hash rate to me.  Honestly, I also had in mind that antminer will come out with an S4 based on their S3 design. I don't want to go around explaining to people who bought these that they have to take them out of the datacenter, but can't run them anywhere except if they have 208V-240V service.
legendary
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Not that I don't like Spondoolies, but I have yet to get 1.4T out of any of my non-spondoolies hosted miners, maybe 1.2T.

Switch on 208-240V.
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Patiently waiting for some news.  Undecided
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Yet another company shows that smaller process node isn't necessarily that much better. Every one so far as failed to meet simulated results due to power/heat.


to be fair  antminer s-3's fell short.     441 gh vs 478 gh  but the watt per hash was on spot around .75 watts a hash.


if the sp30 does close to the .46-.50 watt mark and hashes at 4.8th  it will not be the end of the world.

  a 20 percent refund for 20 percent hash shortage does fix the issue.

The key is do they come close to the .46-.50 watt mark.

  If it can't do .65 watts  it would be a really big problem.

Your only telling half the story, the Bitmain Ant miner S3 did come up short at 441G, but they offered coupons and refunds for the difference in hash rate. It's not like they tried to pull a fast one. Honestly, their hash rate is spot on in my opinion. Not that I don't like Spondoolies, but I have yet to get 1.4T out of any of my non-spondoolies hosted miners, maybe 1.2T.
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'The right to privacy matters'
Yet another company shows that smaller process node isn't necessarily that much better. Every one so far as failed to meet simulated results due to power/heat.


to be fair  antminer s-3's fell short.     441 gh vs 478 gh  but the watt per hash was on spot around .75 watts a hash.


if the sp30 does close to the .46-.50 watt mark and hashes at 4.8th  it will not be the end of the world.

  a 20 percent refund for 20 percent hash shortage does fix the issue.

The key is do they come close to the .46-.50 watt mark.

  If it can't do .65 watts  it would be a really big problem.

Edit s-3 was about 7.7% short in hashrate 441 vs 478.  s-3 is spot on in power rate .75 watts a gh.  To make amends they gave a 7.7% refund or a 10% coupon on your next purchase
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Well lets compare to cpu world. Intel chip for example. Ivy bridge to haswell. Extremely negligible gain, not really even worth the sunk cost of RD. From consumer perspective not even worth the upgrade. Any diff in the bitcoin world, i think not.
legendary
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Yet another company shows that smaller process node isn't necessarily that much better. Every one so far as failed to meet simulated results due to power/heat.

Until we have final numbers your statement doesn't apply.
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Yet another company shows that smaller process node isn't necessarily that much better. Every one so far as failed to meet simulated results due to power/heat.
legendary
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Whatever the issue turns out to be, I am confident that Guy and his team will come up with the best possible solution in the shortest amount of time possible consistent with their well known reputation for engineering and customer relationship management excellence.

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
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hmm, i've paid the high price for this top miner (5.4 th/s when i've ordered) to have it asap (early august). I wonder what will be the final hashrate...
I understand that's a pre-order and specs can slightly change. SP10 is a great product (1.5+ TH/S instead of 1.4). I'm sure that SP-T will compensate customer accordingly to the loss of hashrate for the SP30.

Waiting for more news from Guy !

To all the troll, we've been waiting for months for the SP30. can't you wait quietly for more few days ? grow up guyz !



They can't because they have been busting a gut waiting for any slight bit of sub-optimal news about SP so they could vent their bile built up from when they got burnt from previous bad buying decisions, or just because they missed out on the SP10 or SP30 and want to justify their decisions.



Exactly this, could not say it better.
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they have said it is the first batch of chips that are the problem..i think they also said it was a heat issue...my guess is you will get 2 boxes 1 board 1 power supply each
and the extra size fans and the bigger box now with only one board would limit any heat issues imho..and/or compensation for batch 1 orders with this bunch of chips
in refund of $$$ etc

Its always a heat issue when it comes to bitcoin mining, but its not the problem in this case. They won't ship half filled units for no reason, those cases are expensive and the cooling performance wouldn't increase hugely without totally redesigning the heatsinks. Makes no sense to part it and also require additional control boards, half the density, double the shipping etc. Fiat costs are expensive.
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Clueless!
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They can't because they have been busting a gut waiting for any slight bit of sub-optimal news about SP so they could vent their bile built up from when they got burnt from previous bad buying decisions, or just because they missed out on the SP10 or SP30 and want to justify their decisions.

Without any solid information, they can't bitch forever. As everyone else I read : "lower hashrate than expected". That's all. How much ? 1% 10% 50%?
We don't know and as far as I understand, SP-T neither...  
As usual, wait and see.

they have said it is the first batch of chips that are the problem..i think they also said it was a heat issue...my guess is you will get 2 boxes 1 board 1 power supply each
and the extra size fans and the bigger box now with only one board would limit any heat issues imho..and/or compensation for batch 1 orders with this bunch of chips
in refund of $$$ etc

it is the only way I can see they can move fast enough to get the units out in the time frame they claim....tackle perhaps the heat issue if i remember correctly and
the $$ compensation in order to 'motivate/inspire confidence' that all is back on track and open up the sp 30 units for sale again and keep market share

if not..plunk...market share now is ZERO in that they are not taking orders....

anyway I know zip but imho this is probably the 'only' way to move fast enough...get confidence back in the product and get it out in the timeline they still say
they want to move the product out....

er if some of the above has already been shot down? please say how you think it may get back to a point of 'confidence' in spondoolies products...for the life
of me with the time/heat/chip constraints as I see them.........all I can figure is the above as most likely

(we can argue if they are gonna go the above route ..but imho to get stuff back on track and their reputation intact something like above is needed asap)

my 2c worth (I will be the first to admit I'm likely way way off)

Searing

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noobie
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They can't because they have been busting a gut waiting for any slight bit of sub-optimal news about SP so they could vent their bile built up from when they got burnt from previous bad buying decisions, or just because they missed out on the SP10 or SP30 and want to justify their decisions.

Without any solid information, they can't bitch forever. As everyone else I read : "lower hashrate than expected". That's all. How much ? 1% 10% 50%?
We don't know and as far as I understand, SP-T neither... 
As usual, wait and see.
legendary
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hmm, i've paid the high price for this top miner (5.4 th/s when i've ordered) to have it asap (early august). I wonder what will be the final hashrate...
I understand that's a pre-order and specs can slightly change. SP10 is a great product (1.5+ TH/S instead of 1.4). I'm sure that SP-T will compensate customer accordingly to the loss of hashrate for the SP30.

Waiting for more news from Guy !

To all the troll, we've been waiting for months for the SP30. can't you wait quietly for more few days ? grow up guyz !



They can't because they have been busting a gut waiting for any slight bit of sub-optimal news about SP so they could vent their bile built up from when they got burnt from previous bad buying decisions, or just because they missed out on the SP10 or SP30 and want to justify their decisions.
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noobie
hmm, i've paid the high price for this top miner (5.4 th/s when i've ordered) to have it asap (early august). I wonder what will be the final hashrate...
I understand that's a pre-order and specs can slightly change. SP10 is a great product (1.5+ TH/S instead of 1.4). I'm sure that SP-T will compensate customer accordingly to the loss of hashrate for the SP30.

Waiting for more news from Guy !

To all the troll, we've been waiting for months for the SP30. can't you wait quietly for more few days ? grow up guyz !

ZiG
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I have 9 Rigs in my possession, so they have shipped some....

You have 9 SP30s or 9 SP10s?

If you have received the SP30 what is the hash rate and power consumption, there are literally hundreds here waiting to hear...



...9 BITMINE rigs...NOT SP rigs... Grin

Read first...then think...then POST...Capisco... Huh

ZiG

I *thought*; I had thought at first "I have 9 Rigs in my possession" on the SP30 thread would indicate same.

I thought, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's 9 USB miners, your right; but I assumed when he stated he had 9 "rigs" in this thread it was SP30s...

...did you also have a *thought* ..."I am so retarded that I am posting BS after BS ..." in that forum... Huh

Cheers,

ZiG
legendary
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I have 9 Rigs in my possession, so they have shipped some....

You have 9 SP30s or 9 SP10s?

If you have received the SP30 what is the hash rate and power consumption, there are literally hundreds here waiting to hear...



...9 BITMINE rigs...NOT SP rigs... Grin

Read first...then think...then POST...Capisco... Huh

ZiG

I *thought*; I had thought at first "I have 9 Rigs in my possession" on the SP30 thread would indicate same.

I thought, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's 9 USB miners, your right; but I assumed when he stated he had 9 "rigs" in this thread it was SP30s...
ZiG
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I have 9 Rigs in my possession, so they have shipped some....

You have 9 SP30s or 9 SP10s?

If you have received the SP30 what is the hash rate and power consumption, there are literally hundreds here waiting to hear...



...9 BITMINE rigs...NOT SP rigs... Grin

Read first...then think...then POST...Capisco... Huh

ZiG
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