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RoadStress

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Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 12:28:39 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 12:25:38 PM

The 5k isn't so far from 6333$. Simple math.

With logic like this you can see why we have conflicting views on the subject of difficulty increases.

It's definitely a lot closer than to the difference from 12k to 5k as midyatspor suggested. Troll much?

JWU42

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Quote from: Bicknellski on April 18, 2014, 12:36:34 PM

Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 12:28:39 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 12:25:38 PM

The 5k isn't so far from 6333$. Simple math.

With logic like this you can see why we have conflicting views on the subject of difficulty increases.

Psst what about the price of BTC?

If we are going to speculate on hashrate why not BTC price?

If you think the price is going to rise, buy BTC. Further, in the US, you avoid double taxation.

Bicknellski

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Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 12:28:39 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 12:25:38 PM

The 5k isn't so far from 6333$. Simple math.

With logic like this you can see why we have conflicting views on the subject of difficulty increases.

Psst what about the price of BTC?

If we are going to speculate on hashrate why not BTC price?

JWU42

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 18, 2014, 12:25:38 PM

The 5k isn't so far from 6333$. Simple math.

With logic like this you can see why we have conflicting views on the subject of difficulty increases.

RoadStress

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Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:16:01 PM

I am looking at it from a business point of view, supply and demand, the fact that they did not sell out of SP10 machines should tell you something, I feel the prices for SP10's 2 Unit Bundle is still high, that's all, it's all business, how could they do this Group buy from 12K to 5K on August SP30 machines, perhaps they know that the Group Buy will not be successful since more than 250 machine has to be sold.

Before the Group Buy they already offered Farmer's Choice where you could buy 3 x SP30 for 21000$ and with 10% reduction with proof or ordering from another manufacturer you would be at 6333$ per unit. The 5k isn't so far from 6333$. Simple math. I don't understand why people don't see every fact and they are stuck on something which sometimes is wrong.

Guy Corem

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2014, 12:22:06 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:16:51 PM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:16:01 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5.

that's comparable to group buy of 50 units in what way?

Cheesy

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:02:37 PM

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

why don't they just give 'em all away for free? only then will you be content. Roll Eyes

I am looking at it from a business point of view, supply and demand, the fact that they did not sell out of SP10 machines should tell you something, I feel the prices for SP10's 2 Unit Bundle is still high, that's all, it's all business, how could they do this Group buy from 12K to 5K on August SP30 machines, perhaps they know that the Group Buy will not be successful since more than 250 machine has to be sold.

it's true. bullshit baffles brains.

too bad as they truly have the best piece of gear on the market and can be selling it right now. for the 3200-3800 price range right now.

Buy the 2 X SP10 Bundle (8K$), apply the 10% coupon and you get to 3,600$

raskul

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2014, 12:22:06 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:16:51 PM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:16:01 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5.

that's comparable to group buy of 50 units in what way?

Cheesy

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:02:37 PM

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

why don't they just give 'em all away for free? only then will you be content. Roll Eyes

I am looking at it from a business point of view, supply and demand, the fact that they did not sell out of SP10 machines should tell you something, I feel the prices for SP10's 2 Unit Bundle is still high, that's all, it's all business, how could they do this Group buy from 12K to 5K on August SP30 machines, perhaps they know that the Group Buy will not be successful since more than 250 machine has to be sold.

it's true. bullshit baffles brains.

too bad as they truly have the best piece of gear on the market and can be selling it right now. for the 3200-3800 price range right now.

so i'l eagerly await your own product. a 5TH/s miner that you will be selling for under $4k.
aye. right mate. jog on.

philipma1957

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Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:16:51 PM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:16:01 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5.

that's comparable to group buy of 50 units in what way?

Cheesy

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:02:37 PM

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

why don't they just give 'em all away for free? only then will you be content. Roll Eyes

I am looking at it from a business point of view, supply and demand, the fact that they did not sell out of SP10 machines should tell you something, I feel the prices for SP10's 2 Unit Bundle is still high, that's all, it's all business, how could they do this Group buy from 12K to 5K on August SP30 machines, perhaps they know that the Group Buy will not be successful since more than 250 machine has to be sold.

it's true. bullshit baffles brains.

too bad as they truly have the best piece of gear on the market and can be selling it right now. for the 3200-3800 price range right now.

philipma1957

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Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:16:01 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5.

that's comparable to group buy of 50 units in what way?

Cheesy

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:02:37 PM

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

why don't they just give 'em all away for free? only then will you be content. Roll Eyes

I am looking at it from a business point of view, supply and demand, the fact that they did not sell out of SP10 machines should tell you something, I feel the prices for SP10's 2 Unit Bundle is still high, that's all, it's all business, how could they do this Group buy from 12K to 5K on August SP30 machines, perhaps they know that the Group Buy will not be successful since more than 250 machine has to be sold.

no sane person should order a sp30.

and this company should sell tons of sp10's they have proof it works.

it is truly the best piece of gear on the market. shame they are hawking a sp30 when they have great gear. right now. the sp10

anminter s-1's were a great item.

this sp10 could become the next ant miner s-1.

raskul

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Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:16:01 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5.

that's comparable to group buy of 50 units in what way?

Cheesy

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:02:37 PM

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

why don't they just give 'em all away for free? only then will you be content. Roll Eyes

I am looking at it from a business point of view, supply and demand, the fact that they did not sell out of SP10 machines should tell you something, I feel the prices for SP10's 2 Unit Bundle is still high, that's all, it's all business, how could they do this Group buy from 12K to 5K on August SP30 machines, perhaps they know that the Group Buy will not be successful since more than 250 machine has to be sold.

it's true. bullshit baffles brains.

midyatspor

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Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5.

that's comparable to group buy of 50 units in what way?

Cheesy

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:02:37 PM

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

why don't they just give 'em all away for free? only then will you be content. Roll Eyes

I am looking at it from a business point of view, supply and demand, the fact that they did not sell out of SP10 machines should tell you something, I feel the prices for SP10's 2 Unit Bundle is still high, that's all, it's all business, how could they do this Group buy from 12K to 5K on August SP30 machines, perhaps they know that the Group Buy will not be successful since more than 250 machine has to be sold.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

the sp30's at 4500 usd with group buy and a discount for august hash are not attractive

you really should focus on the sp10's

but hey your company not mine.

philipma1957

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the sp10's are a great item you could make nice money on.

philipma1957

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Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 12:01:40 PM

We're working to automate group buy sales via another web site. It will take time.
RoadStress's Easter Group buy is a unique opportunity for now. We won't repeat it anytime soon, unless a very good reasonable proposal will come.

We're giving 10% discount with proof of order from other ASIC vendors.
May batch starts 4th and will continue non stop. 20-40 miners / day.

some simple advice make a shit load of sp10's and sell them like ant miner s-1's were sold

raskul

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Quote from: raskul on April 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5.

that's comparable to group buy of 50 units in what way?

Cheesy

Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 12:02:37 PM

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

why don't they just give 'em all away for free? only then will you be content. Roll Eyes

philipma1957

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Quote from: midyatspor on April 18, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 11:45:16 AM

Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 11:39:07 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 11:33:42 AM

Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 10:33:37 AM

Interesting news on the group buy and GREAT news on the improved shipping costs...

@Spondoolies-Tech -- are you simply trying to shift risk to Roadstress? Why buy direct at $11,995 when I can (potentially) at $4995 from the group buy?

Sadly they were not as aggressive on a bulk SP10 proposal Huh

We're not trying to shift any risk. We're fully supporting RoadStress buy group effort.

OK, and kudos for the distributing the hash rate mantra, but to the latter question...

Will you answer that one for me please?

We like group buys, they help to distribute the hash-rate.
We do offer modest bulk sales discounts, as you well know.

You could set this up on your website, make the price $4995 and limit the purchase per buyer to perhaps max 5. Also, I still think your SP10 for May Delivery is over priced since you have not sold out of them yet, let's take worst case scenario that you ship them May 31st, this meas that there will be 3-4 difficulty increases, if we say average 15% increase I come up with the price of around $4500 for your SP10 Bundle so I think you should reduce the price of the SP10 Bundles to around 4K and you will see how fast they sell, just a suggestion.

The guy above is giving you decent advice.
Your 1.4th unit is the best piece of gear and you can ship it pretty quickly.

Antminer s-1 gear has been the most successful selling Asic Mining gear for a few reasons good price good working gear.

Lastly low margins.

If you were to blow the 1.4th Sp10's out at the lowest profit margin you could ..

I have no Idea what the number is but lets say selling them at 3.5k usd plus shipping still makes a profit you should do that.
There is a number that makes profit for you. 3500 plus shipping or 3700 plus shipping .

Right now the window for a 1.4th unit is all yours. price aggressive and sell it fast. make a name for yourself.

Your entire pre order idea for the sp30's does not make good sense .

Shame as your gear does appear to be the most power efficient and highest quality item on the market.

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Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 10:33:37 AM

Why buy direct at $11,995 when I can (potentially) at $4995 from the group buy?

Ok i see that you really want to argue about stupid things. I will answer you to this. There is no reason to buy directly at $11,995 right now unless you aren't aware of this Forums or the Group Buy, but the Group Buy offer is available for only one week. The Easter Week. After that we are back to old prices. Simple as that. Miss this offer, then go ahead and buy at a higher price. The whole capitalist market works this way (buy 1 or 2 or a few units at a higher price or buy bulk units at a lower price), but it seems that this is something new for you.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 11:34:48 AM

Quote from: Tovadnok on April 18, 2014, 10:37:13 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 10:18:17 AM

New Shipping rates for the SP10s!

We are happy to announce that following the completion of the April batch, having shipped out many units and with plans to start shipping the May batch, we were able to secure a new and improved shipping rate.

The new shipping price is $193 for any country in the world that we ship to.

In addition for those who order 6 SP10 May bundles or more, shipping will be free!

Would it be possible to have a group buy for the May batch? I'm talking about something similar to the speacial easter/pesach for SP30 offer above.

Come up with a proposal, send to [email protected]
We're not committing though.

Put the 2 Unit SP10 Bundle for Sale for $4000 for the 1st 100 Customers and limited to 1 Bundle per Customer, you will see how fast they sell.

Guy Corem

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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs

We're working to automate group buy sales via another web site. It will take time.
RoadStress's Easter Group buy is a unique opportunity for now. We won't repeat it anytime soon, unless a very good reasonable proposal will come.

We're giving 10% discount with proof of order from other ASIC vendors.
May batch starts 4th and will continue non stop. 20-40 miners / day.

JWU42

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Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 11:52:46 AM

Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 11:46:22 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 11:45:16 AM

Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 11:39:07 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on April 18, 2014, 11:33:42 AM

Quote from: JWU42 on April 18, 2014, 10:33:37 AM

Interesting news on the group buy and GREAT news on the improved shipping costs...

@Spondoolies-Tech -- are you simply trying to shift risk to Roadstress? Why buy direct at $11,995 when I can (potentially) at $4995 from the group buy?

Sadly they were not as aggressive on a bulk SP10 proposal Huh

We're not trying to shift any risk. We're fully supporting RoadStress buy group effort.

OK, and kudos for the distributing the hash rate mantra, but to the latter question...

Will you answer that one for me please?

We like group buys, they help to distribute the hash-rate.
We do offer modest bulk sales discounts, as you well know.

to the bulk discounts -- But still didn't answer the question... Wink

It appears you have shifted from retail to wholesale and perhaps looking for "authorized distributors"?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6279344

Any wandering customer buying one SP30 will get directed to the Easter Group buy of course.

Excellent of Guy to answer!

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