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Topic: [ANN] [START] StartCOIN 2.0 - The digital currency for crowdfunding - page 20. (Read 539090 times)

sr. member
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Premine originally 42 million. At the moment 16 million in wallets meant for rewards on startjoin platform (Karl has promised burn 2 million, history of not keeping promises). At least further 2 million lost in hack last year, then there was a lot dumped already to fund Startjoin. At least 16 million ready to dump at any time at the moment.

Karl is not going anywhere I don't think, I think he literally owns most the enterprise, he could give up or sell.... or do something inspired HaHaHa.

Man there are some angry people out there.




Startcoin Holdings Ltd - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882

Be sure not to miss this page - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882/persons-with-significant-control

Also see here - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882/filing-history/MzEzMjY1MzI2OGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
                     (Note: Heisenberg Capital is Max Keiser - Simon Dixon mentions the company in the Chris DeRose interview above.)

So Karl Gray is employed as a director by StartCOIN Holdings as well as being a voting shareholder.

The pitch to sell StartCOIN Holdings shares on BTTF - https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2049
Max Keiser owns 97.66% of Startcoin Holdings... only 2.44% of the company was offered on BTTF of which Max through Heisenberg Capital bought the largest portion.


Kind of makes you question why Karl would put himself in the firing line for so much abuse.  Huh






Hi guys what I see is people are trying to accumulate under current price but there aren't many coins to be accumulated so the total BTC in bid is to make people sell faster I'm sure there are more than 300 BTC wanting to get in. Karl is doing his best which is 100x better than what Max was doing at startcoin's peak his girlfriend turned wife who is to blame for all the problems startcoin faced which actually were overblown. this coin is realible and will have a bright future. remember the ATH for this coin is around 70x current price, and as we proved with verge you just need the right people at the right coin. so let's hope more people can sell at the buy orders around 1,3k so this coin can go back to it's past glory. btw check my previous posts to know more on how I get right which coins are good and which are bad. there are people out there looking for long term coins money from real state corrupt officials and gamblers and startcoin is a coin worth investing.
I say again that if startcoin wants to get its trust back among investors not only by sharing information but with target action up to 1 $. If it can not exceed 1 $ then startcoin can not get trust
full member
Activity: 1260
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Premine originally 42 million. At the moment 16 million in wallets meant for rewards on startjoin platform (Karl has promised burn 2 million, history of not keeping promises). At least further 2 million lost in hack last year, then there was a lot dumped already to fund Startjoin. At least 16 million ready to dump at any time at the moment.

Karl is not going anywhere I don't think, I think he literally owns most the enterprise, he could give up or sell.... or do something inspired HaHaHa.

Man there are some angry people out there.




Startcoin Holdings Ltd - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882

Be sure not to miss this page - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882/persons-with-significant-control

Also see here - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882/filing-history/MzEzMjY1MzI2OGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
                     (Note: Heisenberg Capital is Max Keiser - Simon Dixon mentions the company in the Chris DeRose interview above.)

So Karl Gray is employed as a director by StartCOIN Holdings as well as being a voting shareholder.

The pitch to sell StartCOIN Holdings shares on BTTF - https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2049
Max Keiser owns 97.66% of Startcoin Holdings... only 2.44% of the company was offered on BTTF of which Max through Heisenberg Capital bought the largest portion.


Kind of makes you question why Karl would put himself in the firing line for so much abuse.  Huh






Hi guys what I see is people are trying to accumulate under current price but there aren't many coins to be accumulated so the total BTC in bid is to make people sell faster I'm sure there are more than 300 BTC wanting to get in. Karl is doing his best which is 100x better than what Max was doing at startcoin's peak his girlfriend turned wife who is to blame for all the problems startcoin faced which actually were overblown. this coin is realible and will have a bright future. remember the ATH for this coin is around 70x current price, and as we proved with verge you just need the right people at the right coin. so let's hope more people can sell at the buy orders around 1,3k so this coin can go back to it's past glory. btw check my previous posts to know more on how I get right which coins are good and which are bad. there are people out there looking for long term coins money from real state corrupt officials and gamblers and startcoin is a coin worth investing.
newbie
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Premine originally 42 million. At the moment 16 million in wallets meant for rewards on startjoin platform (Karl has promised burn 2 million, history of not keeping promises). At least further 2 million lost in hack last year, then there was a lot dumped already to fund Startjoin. At least 16 million ready to dump at any time at the moment.

Karl is not going anywhere I don't think, I think he literally owns most the enterprise, he could give up or sell.... or do something inspired HaHaHa.

Man there are some angry people out there.




Startcoin Holdings Ltd - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882

Be sure not to miss this page - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882/persons-with-significant-control

Also see here - https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08624882/filing-history/MzEzMjY1MzI2OGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
                     (Note: Heisenberg Capital is Max Keiser - Simon Dixon mentions the company in the Chris DeRose interview above.)

So Karl Gray is employed as a director by StartCOIN Holdings as well as being a voting shareholder.

The pitch to sell StartCOIN Holdings shares on BTTF - https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2049
Max Keiser owns 97.66% of Startcoin Holdings... only 2.44% of the company was offered on BTTF of which Max through Heisenberg Capital bought the largest portion.


Kind of makes you question why Karl would put himself in the firing line for so much abuse.  Huh



newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
Premine originally 42 million. At the moment 16 million in wallets meant for rewards on startjoin platform (Karl has promised burn 2 million, history of not keeping promises). At least further 2 million lost in hack last year, then there was a lot dumped already to fund Startjoin. At least 16 million ready to dump at any time at the moment.

Karl is not going anywhere I don't think, I think he literally owns most the enterprise, he could give up or sell.... or do something inspired HaHaHa.

Man there are some angry people out there.

full member
Activity: 124
Merit: 100
There is only one way for this coin to recover in price, they would need to burn ALL or MOST of the premine.
That would give people and whales the confidence to speculate. They don't have anything to lose. Might as well go for it, am sure Karl has a little bag somewhere so he too should profit if he doesn't get distracted by a packet of biscuits or a pastry.

How many coins is premine?
nearly 50%
newbie
Activity: 23
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There is only one way for this coin to recover in price, they would need to burn ALL or MOST of the premine.
That would give people and whales the confidence to speculate. They don't have anything to lose. Might as well go for it, am sure Karl has a little bag somewhere so he too should profit if he doesn't get distracted by a packet of biscuits or a pastry.

How many coins is premine?
hero member
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Merit: 501
Crypto Mentat

Ripple has some significant people behind it, Startcoin has Karl, if Karl burns it all Startcoin could become a insignificant pump coin (best case scenario), XRP has pumped but it is more than a pump coin (in theory).

so if we want Start to become something more than "a insignificant pump coin" firstly we need to get rid of Karl
newbie
Activity: 39
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There is only one way for this coin to recover in price, they would need to burn ALL or MOST of the premine.
That would give people and whales the confidence to speculate. They don't have anything to lose. Might as well go for it, am sure Karl has a little bag somewhere so he too should profit if he doesn't get distracted by a packet of biscuits or a pastry.

look at Ripple, its premine has no effect on the price and the people confidence.
The premine itself is not a problem as it could be used to finance the development of the coin & related projects, it all depends who controls it, and in the case of the Startcoin it is the problem  Angry

Ripple has some significant people behind it, Startcoin has Karl, if Karl burns it all Startcoin could become a insignificant pump coin (best case scenario), XRP has pumped but it is more than a pump coin (in theory).
hero member
Activity: 643
Merit: 501
Crypto Mentat
There is only one way for this coin to recover in price, they would need to burn ALL or MOST of the premine.
That would give people and whales the confidence to speculate. They don't have anything to lose. Might as well go for it, am sure Karl has a little bag somewhere so he too should profit if he doesn't get distracted by a packet of biscuits or a pastry.

look at Ripple, its premine has no effect on the price and the people confidence.
The premine itself is not a problem as it could be used to finance the development of the coin & related projects, it all depends who controls it, and in the case of the Startcoin it is the problem  Angry
newbie
Activity: 39
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There is only one way for this coin to recover in price, they would need to burn ALL or MOST of the premine.
That would give people and whales the confidence to speculate. They don't have anything to lose. Might as well go for it, am sure Karl has a little bag somewhere so he too should profit if he doesn't get distracted by a packet of biscuits or a pastry.
full member
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all the bad news. yooo pushing price down... Grin
newbie
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In the above Bitcoin Uncensored Interview with Chris and Simon there is mention of "the email" here is what it said;


"StartJOIN @startjoin_announcements29m
Today we are excited to announce that StartCOIN Holdings is issuing a one-time dividend to all our shareholders, who have invested in the company via the BnktotheFuture platform.

StartCOIN holdings will be allocating each of our shareholders a percentage of StartCOIN Holdings ownership of Bitcoin Capital commensurate to the equity position they currently hold in StartCOIN Holdings.

As you might be aware, through the Bitcoin Capital vehicle, StartCOIN Holdings has accumulated a position in some of the most exciting companies in the world. Through this dividend, each shareholder will effectively receive shares in these companies at early stage valuations.

The team at BnkToTheFuture is currently finalising their audit on the holdings within Bitcoin Capital. Once we receive the details on number of shares, valuations etc. for each company, we will contact each shareholder with a detailed report of their dividend.

We look forward to hearing feedback from the community on these steps over the coming days and as always we will be available to answer questions on Yap or feel free to contact us via hello @startjoin.com.

On a Separate Note - In addition to the dividend for shareholders we have taken the decision to decrease the total possible supply of StartCoin by “burning” 2 Million StartCOIN from the pre-mine pool. The purpose of this deflationary action is to increase the value of those coins already in circulation and held by the StartJOIN community."



But within less than an hour of the email being sent out Simon Dixon posted the following comment in a Telegram chat (StartcoinUncensored)

"IMPORTANT/URGENT Public Notice: BnkToTheFuture were not contacted by anybody at SCH about the recent announcement involving Bitcoin Capital and BnkToTheFuture. We are waiting to hear from Karl why this announcement was made publicly without informing us and without our knowledge. Also, please note we are not conducting any 'audit' for SCH in relation to the recent dividends announcement. We received this announcement as we are subscribed to their newsletter. We believe there are regulatory challenges that SCH may not have considered which is the reason why we are now waiting to hear from SCH and make a formal inquiry in regards to the recent announcement. Any movement in the price of StartCOIN as a result of this announcement should not be attributed to BnkToTheFuture in any way."


Hence the reason why Simon Dixon and Karl Gray are meeting this week, hope this helps everyone.



newbie
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Chris DeRose of Bitcoin Uncensored...........

Interviews Simon Dixon of Bank To The Future about StartCoin, StartJoin, Bitcoin Capital, Karl Gray and Max Keiser



Part 1 - The History of StartCOIN: Max Keiser's involvement and where it went wrong with Simon Dixon  9:22
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQhcrEZcup0&list=PLqwJ8pFu44ZDhcVEbZs0BrWq16JdhxDJG
            
"In the beginning of our four part interview with Simon Dixon on BnkToTheFuture, we learn about the evolution and development of StartCOIN and StartJOIN, its early beginning with Max Keiser as well as Simon's history of crowdfunding and regulatory efforts in the United Kingdom. Simon Dixon articulates why crowdfunding economics doesn't make sense, and how these securities crash."

Part 2 - Lessons Learned: Cloud Mining, Bitcoin Capital, Perpetual Liabilities and Max Keiser  17:48
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alXzWVCIllI&index=2&list=PLqwJ8pFu44ZDhcVEbZs0BrWq16JdhxDJG

"In part two of the Simon Dixon interview, Simon talks about lessons learned with Genesis Cloud mining during StartCOIN, Dash, and Ethereum during early StartJOIN mining crowdfunds. Simon discusses his ownership in the mining ventures, Perpetual Liabilities, CrowdFactor, and relationships behind the scenes. Max's gifting of Bitcoin Capital, and the motivations behind his disappearance."

Part 3 - Zero Sum Games: Companies that make Companies, Fiduciary Duty, Money made and by whom  12:43
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN-uAfyU2HA&index=3&list=PLqwJ8pFu44ZDhcVEbZs0BrWq16JdhxDJG

"In Part Three of Simon Dixon's Interview we ask where did the StartCOIN, Max Keiser, Karl Gray, and Simon Dixon funds come from? We discuss Bitcoin Capital's focus (or lack thereof). Who's responsible for losses. Who gained from the venture. What is an ICO and fundraisers fiduciary duty? Would SEC regulations prevent losses, and is there an efficiency in investor accreditation. What is regulatory arbitrage if not regulatory compliance, but with with the Rube Goldberg machine."

Part 4 - What's Next for Simon Dixon & ICO Crowdfunding: Can you be scammed by anything but greed?  23:37
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l3qle3eAZs&index=4&list=PLqwJ8pFu44ZDhcVEbZs0BrWq16JdhxDJG

"Simon admits his failings, but is he really to blame? What's next for the newcomers, what are the ramifications of a bad investment, and are incumbent regulations wrong? Simon 'gets real' about the state of the movement (hint: it's a bubble) and we discuss the role that all of us play in evangelizing investment schemes, and the responsibility that we all share in the development of this industry. Simon says he'll try to get Max Keiser and Karl Gray on the show to discuss their part - we'll see what develops!"


newbie
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Absolutely shocked that it has not gone down to 400-600 Sat range, seems to have support at current range.

No Fundementals,
No good news that actually matters,
Premine that can dump on anyone if they decide to pump this coin.

Yet still it doesn't die and has a spectacular retrace potential.

I can only think it is new money that is providing support.

I might have made a mistake to exit when I did, but can't take the risk of re-entering this market.

If you are here because of Max Kieser, be careful, he is not too dependable, even if he is right often. Do not trust Karl, he is the boss now and is just as bad as Max. They are both shameless liars.

If you want to buy this, have a stop loss in place, please think carefully and try not to risk more than 2% of your portfolio,

DO NOT GO ALL IN HERE, you might get rich but the risk is too great. If I had stayed in BTC and not dabbled in this coin, I would be 70K GBP better off now. Instead made a loss.

Stay safe and make money.
legendary
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Here we go again
Likes dislike we have to admit that startcoin is one of the great coins from among others. But now will be betting for karl with startcoin, if startcoin in the near future can penetrate the number 1 dollar / startcoin then can not be denied this event will The history of the return of investor confidence to karl, but if it can not reach 1 dollar / startcoin then this type of coin will not be sought by many people even be sure to die. I hope we helped karl in succeeding this project. Again I say that this is a betting moment of popularity startcoin.target not just pump, but a minimum price of 1 dollar / startcoin. Let's see if dev can provide a very high price for startcoin
Fuck the Markete trolling just cause fundamentals here !



Max Keiser finally branded himself as a complete Con Artist with this.
Prove me wrong Karl.
sr. member
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Likes dislike we have to admit that startcoin is one of the great coins from among others. But now will be betting for karl with startcoin, if startcoin in the near future can penetrate the number 1 dollar / startcoin then can not be denied this event will The history of the return of investor confidence to karl, but if it can not reach 1 dollar / startcoin then this type of coin will not be sought by many people even be sure to die. I hope we helped karl in succeeding this project. Again I say that this is a betting moment of popularity startcoin.target not just pump, but a minimum price of 1 dollar / startcoin. Let's see if dev can provide a very high price for startcoin
legendary
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Juicin' crypto
1$
Soon

$ZWD

lmaoooooooo

when START pampz like Rippllleeee bullshit?!

oh wait, it doesn't cause it's a turd
legendary
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Here we go again
full member
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New all time lows right around the corner for this shit!!!
sr. member
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What's the good news? It's been a week now.
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