[ANN] SuperNET NXT asset 12071612744977229797, SUPERNET KMD assetchain in summer - page 270.

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Quote from: faithinnewcryptos on September 05, 2014, 04:59:54 PM

hey james normally I only read here but I sign up to share my story.
yesterday I bought UNITY and TOKEN only to realize today it was both a fake Undecided

but what strike me is the scammer send back most like 90% of what I lost with encrypted message that I should be careful buying fake assets and he took a "finders fee" Shocked

look here:

scam account http://blocks.nxtcrypto.org/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=9546810874286216653
he send funds to here http://blocks.nxtcrypto.org/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=17678274719935767871
then send out funds to scammed accounts Huh

8.   05.09.2014 14:33:05      NXT-2U76-X4SH-EL58-5XZ3X   250.00   Payment   1   2370013080395125014
9.   05.09.2014 14:30:00      NXT-65PU-ZM5D-AF2Z-GQZND   7,777.00   Payment   1   10179926733633687769
10.   05.09.2014 14:27:03      NXT-RA6F-TBCY-CAZA-GHHME   10,000.00   Payment   1   3410101444488214867
11.   05.09.2014 14:26:03      NXT-3FH7-TS6Q-44EV-8B9LN   6,500.00   Payment   1   15483304339274721265
12.   05.09.2014 14:23:57      NXT-KVAC-XAUD-JVLZ-7TCEZ   3,497.00   Payment   3   1653983513292585555
13.   05.09.2014 14:21:42      NXT-U2CZ-XLCD-NM83-C2S27

never seen something like this and really very reliefed I lost only 10% or something !!!!

OMG!

Amazing! What a "polite" scammer!

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hey james normally I only read here but I sign up to share my story.
yesterday I bought UNITY and TOKEN only to realize today it was both a fake Undecided

but what strike me is the scammer send back most like 90% of what I lost with encrypted message that I should be careful buying fake assets and he took a "finders fee" Shocked

look here:

scam account http://blocks.nxtcrypto.org/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=9546810874286216653
he send funds to here http://blocks.nxtcrypto.org/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=17678274719935767871
then send out funds to scammed accounts Huh

8.   05.09.2014 14:33:05      NXT-2U76-X4SH-EL58-5XZ3X   250.00   Payment   1   2370013080395125014
9.   05.09.2014 14:30:00      NXT-65PU-ZM5D-AF2Z-GQZND   7,777.00   Payment   1   10179926733633687769
10.   05.09.2014 14:27:03      NXT-RA6F-TBCY-CAZA-GHHME   10,000.00   Payment   1   3410101444488214867
11.   05.09.2014 14:26:03      NXT-3FH7-TS6Q-44EV-8B9LN   6,500.00   Payment   1   15483304339274721265
12.   05.09.2014 14:23:57      NXT-KVAC-XAUD-JVLZ-7TCEZ   3,497.00   Payment   3   1653983513292585555
13.   05.09.2014 14:21:42      NXT-U2CZ-XLCD-NM83-C2S27

never seen something like this and really very reliefed I lost only 10% or something !!!!

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Quote from: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 04:52:56 PM

Quote from: Cassius on September 05, 2014, 04:16:43 PM

BTER acted very well in the last two hacks.
Are you saying exclusive rights to them (see PM about CCEDK)?

Bter is most gracious and embracing of UNITY
They are open to and inviting of all other exchanges that are operating free of "protection for its citizens" regimes

All they have to do is have a decision maker for the exchange to PM me

James

Excellent, I have asked Ronny to PM you. He seemed interested.

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Quote from: threecats on September 05, 2014, 04:33:44 PM

Quote from: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:08 PM

Quote from: coininvestor on September 05, 2014, 02:38:34 PM

If it were me and I knew what coin was going to be added to Supernet before an official announcement then I would use my private funds to take a nice position in that coin maybe even months before Supernet funds were allocated to that coin. In other words insider trading. So my question is how do I get on the inside. Huh

Maybe this should be a private message I don't know.

there is a newsletter on thesupernet.org
if you sign up to it, maybe you will get some advance notice about some things
since this is open for everyone, I think we can all agree it is not any insider info

signed up 12 hours ago, have not gotten anything, has one been sent?

not yet
and the advance notice might only be for a few minutes
this thread is also a good place to monitor and maybe email delays will make this forum the fastest?

also there probably wont be more coins announced for a bit of time. Let us not get ahead of ourselves. What if the SuperNET is raising only 10 BTC like some previous poster said, then we can only announce that SuperNET is a snot kitten

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Quote from: btcney on September 05, 2014, 04:24:35 PM

So what's the deal with TOKEN and UNITY?
I didn't really get that

1 TOKEN becomes 1 UNITY which is the trade symbol for SuperNET asset

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Quote from: PilotofBTC on September 05, 2014, 04:18:48 PM

Quote from: BadAss.Sx on September 05, 2014, 04:15:46 PM

So whats better to do...buying from Bter with btc or buying from NXT AE with NXT? Apparantly you get the best price from Bter, you said, but how does Bter make sure the tokens stay 0.01btc on day one? The demo looks like a trading platform, so it is possible people are bidding higher?

I am also curious if the 15% bonus for NXT/BTCD reflected by the lower price on the exchange? Or, will you get 15% more of UNITY than the Tokens you are purchased?

all bonuses are reflected in the price
if you are noticing any lack of bonus in the price, this is a bug and needs to be fixed
the exchange rate is the previous 24 hours moving average of the coinmarketcap price
so all exchanges would need to be manipulated for 24 hours to game this
much cheaper to just get the TOKEN

1 TOKEN becomes 1 UNITY
the cost is whatever you are seeing in the sell price

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Quote from: Cassius on September 05, 2014, 04:16:43 PM

BTER acted very well in the last two hacks.
Are you saying exclusive rights to them (see PM about CCEDK)?

Bter is most gracious and embracing of UNITY
They are open to and inviting of all other exchanges that are operating free of "protection for its citizens" regimes

All they have to do is have a decision maker for the exchange to PM me

James

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Quote from: BadAss.Sx on September 05, 2014, 04:15:46 PM

So whats better to do...buying from Bter with btc or buying from NXT AE with NXT? Apparantly you get the best price from Bter, you said, but how does Bter make sure the tokens stay 0.01btc on day one? The demo looks like a trading platform, so it is possible people are bidding higher?

the higher bids do not change the offered price, this sell price is gradually increasing
of course if some large bids are there eating all the sell price, well then the volume adjustment kicks in to make more TOKEN available
it is just a demo so people are familiar with this method of "jl777 offering"

I have a feeling maybe other offerings will use this method in the future

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Quote from: PilotofBTC on September 05, 2014, 04:12:42 PM

Quote from: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 03:54:14 PM

Quote from: coininvestor on September 05, 2014, 10:23:35 AM

Quote from: tersagun on September 05, 2014, 03:56:00 AM

Quote from: jeezy on September 05, 2014, 03:52:54 AM

Why on all fucking earth would you go with BTER!? Since they are so well regarded in the NXT community... Roll Eyes

They have practiced similar scenarios before and they are Chinese; less inclined to legal limits Polo is experiencing right now.

I can believe that a Chinese company has fewer legal limits than an American Company. LOL

Unfortunately, the USA protecting their citizens from all possible dangers is making for a very dependent citizenry
by 2040, well, it is still not certain, so let us remain optimistic!

The registration of securities has been a requirement in the US since 1933 and I really don't see it as a bad thing. Is a government protecting their citizens such a bad thing? Sure, they can go overboard, but I don't think this item does. All registration does is ensure the investors have adequate verifiable information about what they are investing in. This is probably no more than most investors would want anyway.

http://www.sec.gov/answers/regis33.htm

Also, private offerings are perfectly legal as long as the investors are qualified and most states allow a certain number of unqualified investors for a private placement.

I'm surprised also that Polo trades JHL which can probably be considered a security as well. Although I think JHL could be considered a crypto asset, or coin just as easily as a security. There is a very fine line.

you convinced me, I will be offline for a few hours as I am applying for a USA visa, I cant wait to meet all the lawyers

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Quote from: r3animation on September 05, 2014, 03:56:03 PM

Quote from: PondSea on September 05, 2014, 03:51:41 PM

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Quote from: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 02:38:25 PM

Quote from: GoodDaySir on September 05, 2014, 07:16:17 AM

Quote from: frozeman on September 05, 2014, 07:00:28 AM

These assets where there since a few days. It should be noted in the first post that they are scam assets.
This will probably fool a few more people, This is not ok!

you cant blame anyone here except yourself. sorry to hear that you kinda scammed yourself, but you cannot expect james to do a 24/7 research and make a list of the fake assets. stick to the official announcement. anything else is just negligence.

I realize that the NXT AE is new for many.
I propose to make a "grandfather clause" for people who purchased any scam assets before this post.
To honor their purchase with real TOKEN, but only for purchases already made.

Unless there is some big objection to the dilution this makes, the entire SuperNET will be taking care of the people who were not aware. If there are objections, then I will personally give these people my own TOKEN to makegood.

noashh, plz make a complete list of the scam tx and if you are victim of this, please contact noashh

James

Scam asset issuer could have bought scam assets from himself with other accounts to make it look legit, like scammers did in the past. He'd get assets for free (minus NXT transaction fees) when there is a makegood, or am I wrong?

I agree. We should not be compensating people that acted stupidly....

There might be a rush from the scammers to buy their own assets....Dont set this precident.

I feel bad for those who got scammed. I really do. But we should not compensate for their rashness.

They just needed to read the first 3 lines on the first post on this thread.

some scams they occured before I updated OP, I dont know exact time, so the official end of grandfather would be when I posted that

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Quote from: PondSea on September 05, 2014, 03:51:41 PM

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Quote from: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 02:38:25 PM

Quote from: GoodDaySir on September 05, 2014, 07:16:17 AM

Quote from: frozeman on September 05, 2014, 07:00:28 AM

These assets where there since a few days. It should be noted in the first post that they are scam assets.
This will probably fool a few more people, This is not ok!

you cant blame anyone here except yourself. sorry to hear that you kinda scammed yourself, but you cannot expect james to do a 24/7 research and make a list of the fake assets. stick to the official announcement. anything else is just negligence.

I realize that the NXT AE is new for many.
I propose to make a "grandfather clause" for people who purchased any scam assets before this post.
To honor their purchase with real TOKEN, but only for purchases already made.

Unless there is some big objection to the dilution this makes, the entire SuperNET will be taking care of the people who were not aware. If there are objections, then I will personally give these people my own TOKEN to makegood.

noashh, plz make a complete list of the scam tx and if you are victim of this, please contact noashh

James

Scam asset issuer could have bought scam assets from himself with other accounts to make it look legit, like scammers did in the past. He'd get assets for free (minus NXT transaction fees) when there is a makegood, or am I wrong?

I agree. We should not be compensating people that acted stupidly....

There might be a rush from the scammers to buy their own assets....Dont set this precident.

I have already set this precedent
I did not make any big red letter warnings and for people to know about this they would need to know details of NXT assets. Even if they know about other assets, maybe they still could make this mistake

Let us remember our compassion.

James

P.S. Now that I have made the red letter warnings, unless the scammers they are also using the time displacement field, then they cannot benefit.

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Quote from: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 02:38:25 PM

Quote from: GoodDaySir on September 05, 2014, 07:16:17 AM

Quote from: frozeman on September 05, 2014, 07:00:28 AM

These assets where there since a few days. It should be noted in the first post that they are scam assets.
This will probably fool a few more people, This is not ok!

you cant blame anyone here except yourself. sorry to hear that you kinda scammed yourself, but you cannot expect james to do a 24/7 research and make a list of the fake assets. stick to the official announcement. anything else is just negligence.

I realize that the NXT AE is new for many.
I propose to make a "grandfather clause" for people who purchased any scam assets before this post.
To honor their purchase with real TOKEN, but only for purchases already made.

Unless there is some big objection to the dilution this makes, the entire SuperNET will be taking care of the people who were not aware. If there are objections, then I will personally give these people my own TOKEN to makegood.

noashh, plz make a complete list of the scam tx and if you are victim of this, please contact noashh

James

Scam asset issuer could have bought scam assets from himself with other accounts to make it look legit, like scammers did in the past. He'd get assets for free (minus NXT transaction fees) when there is a makegood, or am I wrong?

i rely on you to prevent such things.
One very good thing about USA is the "innocent until proven guilty" philosophy, better 100 guilty go free to prevent a single innocent from being punished.
So, if in doubt, assume they are not a scammer. I suggest to getting PM's and emails and some such if the amounts are big. scammers wont be so forthcoming, while innocents will not have a problem

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I am a bit confused. I see 5000 tokens on sale on bter for slightly over .01? But it looks like the countdown is not over for another 16 hours? http://www.nxtcommunity.org/

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Will do..

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Quote from: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:08 PM

Quote from: coininvestor on September 05, 2014, 02:38:34 PM

If it were me and I knew what coin was going to be added to Supernet before an official announcement then I would use my private funds to take a nice position in that coin maybe even months before Supernet funds were allocated to that coin. In other words insider trading. So my question is how do I get on the inside. Huh

Maybe this should be a private message I don't know.

there is a newsletter on thesupernet.org
if you sign up to it, maybe you will get some advance notice about some things
since this is open for everyone, I think we can all agree it is not any insider info

signed up 12 hours ago, have not gotten anything, has one been sent?

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Quote from: coininvestor on September 05, 2014, 02:38:34 PM

If it were me and I knew what coin was going to be added to Supernet before an official announcement then I would use my private funds to take a nice position in that coin maybe even months before Supernet funds were allocated to that coin. In other words insider trading. So my question is how do I get on the inside. Huh

Maybe this should be a private message I don't know.

there is a newsletter on thesupernet.org
if you sign up to it, maybe you will get some advance notice about some things
since this is open for everyone, I think we can all agree it is not any insider info

jl777

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Quote from: bilt10 on September 05, 2014, 01:08:02 PM

It is really confusing Angry

Can't I just buy from the NXT AE? Or is it mandatory to get tokens from BTER? There are no sell orders on NXT AE atm?

http://www.nxtcommunity.org/ this clock might be off by an hour, please complain to them

I will follow that clock regardless if it is right or not and then I will put sell orders on the AE

the bter page is live so people can see how slowly the price is moving. It is very slow increasing, so there is not need for panic buy

James

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So what's the deal with TOKEN and UNITY?
I didn't really get that

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Quote from: Shurugwi on September 05, 2014, 12:42:38 PM

Quote from: r3animation on September 05, 2014, 12:26:38 PM

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Quote from: PPan on September 05, 2014, 12:15:57 PM

Is it possible to buy the TOKEN using the NXT AE, or is it necessary to buy it on bter?

Ya I'll take anything 'cept doges. Gonna drive this motherf******sh*t to da MOON peoples!

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Now see this is the confusing thing to me as I can not see the purpose of the tokens. Why not just buy Unity shares directly?

Don't ask questions.

James

.... fake acct....

Mods took care of that imposter very quickly. Good job guys!

BTT mods are helping. This is fantastic.

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Quote from: coininvestor on September 05, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

Quote from: coininvestor on September 05, 2014, 12:21:24 PM

Quote from: Hotmetal on September 05, 2014, 12:09:50 PM

Quote from: coininvestor on September 05, 2014, 11:56:38 AM

In other words when Unity is dispersed is it based on the number of NXT I have donated or is it based on the number of tokens I have?

Surely it will be based on the tokens that you have. New buyers might get more tokens than you though.

Now see this is the confusing thing to me as I can not see the purpose of the tokens. Why not just buy Unity shares directly?

As I understand it the purpose of the token is because James doesn't want to cap the donations. I get that. My issue is that not all tokens will be sold for the same price given that they will be sold in different currencies which are freely floating against each other. So if there was a way to account for the actual number of coins donated from each user and split the total Unity shares based on actual contributions rather than number of tokens then that would be better. One coin one vote sort of thing.

at what point in time are the exchange rates calculated
what method are the exchange rates calculated

I was not smart enough to figure out these answers, so it is what it is and at this point too late to change
I was open about specific, all you had to do was post before it was done

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