[ANN] TenX: Making Blockchain assets spendable - page 256.

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Quote from: Revelations86 on June 24, 2017, 05:34:55 PM

I participated with DASH, but can't seem to see my my balance using the token checker. It doesn't give an error that the transaction isn't there, rather, clicking on the button does nothing. I've already signed the transaction with my Ether address and submitted. Does anyone else have this problem?

exact same problem. my tx was in the first block after 1pm.

Maybe this was too late. I don't know and would at least want my Dash back...

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Not only do I understand how transactions work on the Ethereum blockchain, I even understand complete sentences.
Is not about how free information is. Is falacious argument right there. Is about fairness in crowdsourcing systems. Understand that?

Is how Ethereum works, seems pretty fair to me, anyone had their chance to jump in by just adjusting the GWEI. The ones that use average gwei simple didn't understand how ethereum works or they didn't care to be prioritized by the network. Is all the investor fault, not the TenX team. You decided to invest in TenX in a blockchain that you don't agree on how is suppose to work. Also they had other deposits methods not only ETH.

People who used more than the average GWEI got rejected as well. I don't disagree on the Blockchain, I disagree on the way the ICO was handled. The system is not dependent on the blokchain. It would have been preferable to set up a queue and cap the maximum investment to mitigate the influx and give more people a chance. You are focusing on a very specific portion of a broader picture.

They had other deposits not only ETH, their funding method is called "limited cap", this wasn't an "unlimited CAP funding" method.

How does that solve any of the fundamental problems with this sort of ICO? Civic was "Limited cap" on Ethereum, it had a queue line and an investment limit. Your promotion of the elitist and dishonest conviction that others were simply not tech savvy enough to earn their shares, yet you invest in a platform that aims at establishing a paradigm that is fundamentally incompatible with that belief.

There is a problem and we look for solutions. You bring the unfounded argument that people who didn't get their chance were the problem, and that there is no need for a solution.

It was investor problem, they knew they were investing in a "limited cap ICO" and that there was a big chance of not getting in. Curiously, nobody was complaining about the limited cap ICO funding method until the ICO finished. Luckily investors had the option of adjusting GAS price, if they really wanted to get in, they would have adjusted gas price above average.

In any case, the worst ico was Status because they chose 50 gwei max limit, the only thing that did is clogging all the ethereum blockchain. That was a poor decision from the Status team and a lot of people couldn't get in because the long queue list. At least with Tenx investors could choose to pay more fee for prioritizing their transaction.

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Quote from: CyborgCayouche on June 24, 2017, 06:51:06 PM

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Not only do I understand how transactions work on the Ethereum blockchain, I even understand complete sentences.
Is not about how free information is. Is falacious argument right there. Is about fairness in crowdsourcing systems. Understand that?

Is how Ethereum works, seems pretty fair to me, anyone had their chance to jump in by just adjusting the GWEI. The ones that use average gwei simple didn't understand how ethereum works or they didn't care to be prioritized by the network. Is all the investor fault, not the TenX team. You decided to invest in TenX in a blockchain that you don't agree on how is suppose to work. Also they had other deposits methods not only ETH.

People who used more than the average GWEI got rejected as well. I don't disagree on the Blockchain, I disagree on the way the ICO was handled. The system is not dependent on the blokchain. It would have been preferable to set up a queue and cap the maximum investment to mitigate the influx and give more people a chance. You are focusing on a very specific portion of a broader picture.

They had other deposits not only ETH, their funding method is called "limited cap", this wasn't an "unlimited CAP funding" method.

How does that solve any of the fundamental problems with this sort of ICO? Civic was "Limited cap" on Ethereum, it had a queue line and an investment limit. Your promotion of the elitist and dishonest conviction that others were simply not tech savvy enough to earn their shares, yet you invest in a platform that aims at establishing a paradigm that is fundamentally incompatible with that belief.

There is a problem and we look for solutions. You bring the unfounded argument that people who didn't get their chance were the problem, and that there is no need for a solution.

It was investor problem, they knew they were investing in a "limited cap ICO" and that there was a big chance of not getting in. Curiously, nobody was complaining about the limited cap ICO funding method until the ICO finished. Luckily investors had the option of adjusting GAS price, if they really wanted to get in, they would have adjusted gas price above average.

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Quote from: mnemonicsoup on June 24, 2017, 06:44:34 PM

What is the total supply of TenX?

20 million.

Edited: Sorry 164 million actually.

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Quote from: franc0 on June 24, 2017, 05:52:42 PM

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Not only do I understand how transactions work on the Ethereum blockchain, I even understand complete sentences.
Is not about how free information is. Is falacious argument right there. Is about fairness in crowdsourcing systems. Understand that?

Is how Ethereum works, seems pretty fair to me, anyone had their chance to jump in by just adjusting the GWEI. The ones that use average gwei simple didn't understand how ethereum works or they didn't care to be prioritized by the network. Is all the investor fault, not the TenX team. You decided to invest in TenX in a blockchain that you don't agree on how is suppose to work. Also they had other deposits methods not only ETH.

People who used more than the average GWEI got rejected as well. I don't disagree on the Blockchain, I disagree on the way the ICO was handled. The system is not dependent on the blokchain. It would have been preferable to set up a queue and cap the maximum investment to mitigate the influx and give more people a chance. You are focusing on a very specific portion of a broader picture.

They had other deposits not only ETH, their funding method is called "limited cap", this wasn't an "unlimited CAP funding" method.

How does that solve any of the fundamental problems with this sort of ICO? Civic was "Limited cap" on Ethereum, it had a queue line and an investment limit. You promote of the elitist and dishonest conviction that others were simply not tech savvy enough to earn their shares, yet you invest in a platform that aims at establishing a paradigm that is fundamentally incompatible with that belief.

There is a problem and we look for solutions. You bring the unfounded argument that people who didn't get their chance were the problem, and that there is no need for a solution. I believe that an ICO should be more of a fair process and less of a glorified lottery.

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What is the total supply of TenX?

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Quote from: Porte on June 24, 2017, 03:17:19 PM

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Quote from: CECVW on June 24, 2017, 02:34:29 PM

I agree, this ICO is so unfair!! So a few got all the tokens and people like us who tried to get a few eth get nothing becuase failure of the system! Why...big whales get their stake and ordinary people get out when we did it a 3 pm exactly munich time?

THIS IS VERY UNFAIR!!

TxHash:0x86e8834e0699dbfed2fc49a6a809b09f18259603c20e341c05dddcad2ad69f27Block Height:3923584 (505 block confirmations)

TimeStamp:2 hrs 28 mins ago (Jun-24-2017 03:59:22 PM +UTC)From:0x6b081b11fb1e8139853f8f06ac4fe3bfe4ee7950To:Contract 0xd43d09ec1bc5e57c8f3d0c64020d403b04c7f783 (TenXCrowdsale)

Warning! Error encountered during contract execution [Bad instruction] Value: 8 Ether ($2,467.04) - [CANCELLED] Gas Limit: 130000 Gas

Price: 0.000000021 Ether (21 Gwei) Gas Used By Txn: 130000 Actual Tx Cost/Fee: 0.00273 Ether ($0.84) Cumulative Gas Used: 1572414

Nonce: 15

1) You are literally only saying that because you did not get in. Every aspect of this ICO was known to every single human on this planet. Tell me how this is "unfair" ?
2) They had over 4k people, just watch their FB video. That is not a handful of whales, that is a diverse group getting in IMO.

Quote from: CyborgCayouche on June 24, 2017, 02:54:39 PM

That was an unfair ICO. So many people prepared hours in advance according to the rules and sent their investment the second the ICO opened and still got rejected. That takes away from their credibility.

But as others pointed out, it might dump in the first few days of trading.

Anyone know on which exchange and when it will be traded?

You are joking about the credibility right? Again just because you did not get in does not mean it was "unfair". Secondly, those were RECOMMENDATIONS not guarantees that you would get in. Imagine there are 300-500k worth of ETH trying to get in on 100k ETH. Some people will not get in, and some people will be upset. Stop trying to discredit a good project just because you did not get in. Nothing worse than somebody being salty and then because of it, then making that a reason for why this project is not credible. Please apply logic and do not attack other people for your misdoings. There is no reason for that. Learn and move on please

We all saw today this is a scam ICO. This is a scam! It does not matter its a good project. Its corrupted so only certain people can get the tokens...This will hunt you and its a dead project

Come on, guys! You use a fee of 21 Gwei and complain about not getting in, that's really a joke! The terms were clear and it was up to you to be fast and to get the fee right. The Ethereum network is not the responsibilty of the TenX team. I used MEW, paid a fee of 60 Gwei and got a few Eths in without a problem. So it's complete nonsense that smaller amounts wouldn't make it in. Don't blame your shortcomings on others.

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Quote from: metador on June 24, 2017, 05:33:37 PM

Sup, guys i bought using BTC, website says "Welcome aboard" and shows my ETH address i gave them with signature. But when i log in to MEW i still cant see my PAY tokens. Is this a bug or its for everyone?

I'm in exactly the same situation. I'll try to get a response from someone in the tenx team. Maybe we need to add it as a custom token, though I can't see that anything has been sent to me on explorer.

we are all in the same situation, they will clear and help us next days, don't worry

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Thankfully I didnt give it a try otherwise I would also be complaining here.Hope you guyz learnt all that glitters is not gold

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Quote from: Gantzer on June 24, 2017, 03:37:57 PM

Oh no..I read the guidelines and thought they were gas requirement and gwei requirement. No wonder my transaction didn't work, I should have read it better but that was a bit confusing.

I think only bigger amounts were accepted.I tried to send 4 eth but didnt go through.I set gas limit to 4000000 and gwei 50

something went really bad on this ICO regardless if you put a lower gwei or not.....that's not excuse! Someone has to take responsibility for the fiasco of this disastrous ICO

What exactly was so bad about it? I hear a lot of people complaining but what did tenx do wrong? They gave the terms (they never specified the Gas limit and Gwei, just gave recommendations) but you were free to choose a higher limit. Of course, it's going to be sold out fast if it's very popular. People here complain about every single ICO but there is only so much that they can do. Personally, I liked their approach of giving out the details 15 minutes before so you were able to set up everything properly and could just press the send button one second in, instead of having to load a crashing website (because of overload), having to resend for hours or having to stay in line for hours. I invested a small amount with 60 Gwei fee and got through fine.

No matter what an ICO does, people will complain. There is no winning for the people that don't get in.

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Quote from: Porte on June 24, 2017, 04:05:50 PM

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Quote from: Gantzer on June 24, 2017, 03:37:57 PM

Oh no..I read the guidelines and thought they were gas requirement and gwei requirement. No wonder my transaction didn't work, I should have read it better but that was a bit confusing.

I think only bigger amounts were accepted.I tried to send 4 eth but didnt go through.I set gas limit to 4000000 and gwei 50

something went really bad on this ICO regardless if you put a lower gwei or not.....that's not excuse! Someone has to take responsibility for the fiasco of this disastrous ICO

What exactly was so bad about it? I hear a lot of people complaining but what did tenx do wrong? They gave the terms (they never specified the Gas limit and Gwei, just gave recommendations) but you were free to choose a higher limit. Of course, it's going to be sold out fast if it's very popular. People here complain about every single ICO but there is only so much that they can do. Personally, I liked their approach of giving out the details 15 minutes before so you were able to set up everything properly and could just press the send button one second in, instead of having to load a crashing website (because of overload), having to resend for hours or having to stay in line for hours. I invested a small amount with 60 Gwei fee and got through fine.

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Maybe a fed.

Quote from: migello on June 24, 2017, 06:21:02 PM

Quote from: LongTermCrypto on June 24, 2017, 06:00:50 PM

It should have been limited cap per investor. If they don't want my money, no problem. I'll just invest in another project.

this

and i am puzzled why big investors haven't bought on presale....

also 100.000 ETH / 4.000 participants = 25 ETH

oh 25 ETH, the EXACT amount to receive a limited edition tenx card

i think will be quite the rollercoaster for TenX on exchanges.

I wanted to do the 1250 eth founders edition card, but my countries restricted. So I messaged playgroundr about something specific to at least get the card, never got a reply Undecided

oh well.

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I actually thought about a crowdfunding method. That will be "limited cap" and still allow everyone to get in. You allow everyone to get in a limited amount of time i.e 24 hours and the extra funding is gotta be used for purchasing tokens in the market and burning them, and the team has to prove how they destroyed the tokens. But of course there will be always people bitching that they shouldn't used time based limited cap method or that 24 hours was to little time.

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Quote from: LongTermCrypto on June 24, 2017, 06:00:50 PM

It should have been limited cap per investor. If they don't want my money, no problem. I'll just invest in another project.

this

and i am puzzled why big investors haven't bought on presale....

also 100.000 ETH / 4.000 participants = 25 ETH

oh 25 ETH, the EXACT amount to receive a limited edition tenx card

i think will be quite the rollercoaster for TenX on exchanges.

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Quote from: franc0 on June 24, 2017, 06:07:56 PM

Quote from: LongTermCrypto on June 24, 2017, 06:00:50 PM

It should have been limited cap per investor. If they don't want my money, no problem. I'll just invest in another project.
I only regret I've ordered the card before the ico. Once I get the card, I will destroy it, I will burn it.
I also think that not many people will order tenx card after this 'kind of' ico..
If they didn't help me, why should I help them?
meh Sad

That's so childish of you but ok, destroy it. I bet you still going to use it because the 0% commissions Grin

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Yeah, maybe I'm just upset that I didn't get in, and maybe I'm just letting out all the frustration so I can feel better.
As a consumer, I do have the right to complain. So, until I feel it was my fault (and I know it wasn't) I won't stop my complains;

No, I won't contribute a single dime more for this project. The sooner they closed down, the better.

Btw, one thing I've learned since very young, "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is"

gl

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i think nobody who paid in BTC already receive tokens.
Dev probably needs to create them.
I'm "on board" too but not TX into my wallet

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I invested with MEW, 1 second after it started, used Gas limit 300K and 60 Gwei, went through fine...

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Quote from: LongTermCrypto on June 24, 2017, 06:08:14 PM

Quote from: franc0 on June 24, 2017, 06:05:38 PM

Quote from: V.Pelewin on June 24, 2017, 05:57:57 PM

Quote from: CyborgCayouche on June 24, 2017, 05:42:59 PM

People who used more than the average GWEI got rejected as well. I disagree with the way the ICO was handled. The system is not dependent on the blokchain. It would have been preferable to set up a queue and cap the maximum investment to mitigate the influx and give more people a chance. The technology does not account either for the small time frame in which people could invest which inherently cut many people off from participating. You are focusing on a very specific portion of a broader picture.

I used a Gas limit of 300000 and 60 Gwei and it went through fine so I don't think that was the reason it was rejected. This was the most comfortable and least stressful of all the recent ICOs, it took me a minute instead of hours.

Yeah, i don't see a lot of people here complaining because they use 100 GWEI and invested right when the countdown finished. Most of them use 50-60 Gwei using Myetherwallet and that's it. I used 101 Gwei with parity and invested 10 seconds after the countdown finished. In any case blame myetherwallet for not having custom Gwei.

Or maybe we should blame the guys who recommended MEW as the best option to get into the ico? ... thank you tenx devs.....

They didn't say explicitly that MEW was the best wallet to invest.

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Quote from: franc0 on June 24, 2017, 06:05:38 PM

Quote from: V.Pelewin on June 24, 2017, 05:57:57 PM

Quote from: CyborgCayouche on June 24, 2017, 05:42:59 PM

People who used more than the average GWEI got rejected as well. I disagree with the way the ICO was handled. The system is not dependent on the blokchain. It would have been preferable to set up a queue and cap the maximum investment to mitigate the influx and give more people a chance. The technology does not account either for the small time frame in which people could invest which inherently cut many people off from participating. You are focusing on a very specific portion of a broader picture.

I used a Gas limit of 300000 and 60 Gwei and it went through fine so I don't think that was the reason it was rejected. This was the most comfortable and least stressful of all the recent ICOs, it took me a minute instead of hours.

Yeah, i don't see a lot of people here complaining because they use 100 GWEI and invested right when the countdown finished. Most of them use 50-60 Gwei using Myetherwallet and that's it. I used 101 Gwei with parity and invested 10 seconds after the countdown finished. In any case blame myetherwallet for not having custom Gwei.

Or maybe we should blame the guys who recommended MEW as the best option to get into the ico? ... thank you tenx devs.....

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