[ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business - page 88.

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Quote from: timpum on October 29, 2018, 09:54:22 AM

Quote from: kspro on October 29, 2018, 07:19:22 AM

Quote from: timpum on October 29, 2018, 07:05:11 AM

Quote from: cryptocreap on October 26, 2018, 06:11:24 AM

How do you know about this? By market? Are you 100% sure that all nodes are going to different hands especially when we are talking about new projects?

We are talking about the network building model. And, in my opinion, a system that anyone can enter is more honest and decentralized. It does not depend on one person.

Agree with you partially, mate. But in those systems anyone can have a majority of nodes especially when you need to make 50+ consensus. When it is 90%+ it is much harder to get control over such a system.

90% + system is undoubtedly more reliable. But I'm not talking about that. I talked about making a decision by a single person. Monarchy say so.

Maybe it is responsibility when you know who makes decision.

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Quote from: kspro on October 29, 2018, 07:19:22 AM

Quote from: timpum on October 29, 2018, 07:05:11 AM

Quote from: cryptocreap on October 26, 2018, 06:11:24 AM

How do you know about this? By market? Are you 100% sure that all nodes are going to different hands especially when we are talking about new projects?

We are talking about the network building model. And, in my opinion, a system that anyone can enter is more honest and decentralized. It does not depend on one person.

Agree with you partially, mate. But in those systems anyone can have a majority of nodes especially when you need to make 50+ consensus. When it is 90%+ it is much harder to get control over such a system.

90% + system is undoubtedly more reliable. But I'm not talking about that. I talked about making a decision by a single person. Monarchy say so.

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Quote from: timpum on October 29, 2018, 07:05:11 AM

Quote from: cryptocreap on October 26, 2018, 06:11:24 AM

How do you know about this? By market? Are you 100% sure that all nodes are going to different hands especially when we are talking about new projects?

We are talking about the network building model. And, in my opinion, a system that anyone can enter is more honest and decentralized. It does not depend on one person.

Agree with you partially, mate. But in those systems anyone can have a majority of nodes especially when you need to make 50+ consensus. When it is 90%+ it is much harder to get control over such a system.

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Quote from: cryptocreap on October 26, 2018, 06:11:24 AM

How do you know about this? By market? Are you 100% sure that all nodes are going to different hands especially when we are talking about new projects?

We are talking about the network building model. And, in my opinion, a system that anyone can enter is more honest and decentralized. It does not depend on one person.

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Quote from: ampirebus on October 28, 2018, 05:15:36 PM

Quote from: a fool and his money ... on October 28, 2018, 04:49:49 PM

Quote from: hush on October 28, 2018, 12:56:08 PM

I am waiting for enteral exchange system which will bring more exposure towards this platform. They are more active on telegram it seems ongoing 100 development plan will put this in very good position.

Unfortunately, the term of the 100 day plan is coming to an end, but much of the promise has not been done. Let's hope to speed up development in the future.

I believe we should consider the 100 days plan as a rough timeframe with guesstimated milestones to be done sometimes in advance or later that the timeframes states.

Yes, the team always emphasizes that the 100 day plan is not a deadline. But for some tokenholders, this causes a negative. I hope all our plans will be implemented.

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Quote from: ampirebus on October 28, 2018, 06:08:14 AM

Quote from: nira09 on October 26, 2018, 10:49:56 PM

sorry, do anyone know why the Universa twitter account is suspended? today I can't open a Universa twitter account.

Twitter is working now, please join! https://twitter.com/Universa_News

well, thank you for the explanation, I can access it now.

Quote from: a fool and his money ... on October 28, 2018, 04:49:49 PM

Quote from: hush on October 28, 2018, 12:56:08 PM

I am waiting for enteral exchange system which will bring more exposure towards this platform. They are more active on telegram it seems ongoing 100 development plan will put this in very good position.

Unfortunately, the term of the 100 day plan is coming to an end, but much of the promise has not been done. Let's hope to speed up development in the future.

sometimes what we plan doesn't work according to what we expect, but that doesn't mean it fails, the important thing is that the team is still working well and we appreciate that.

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Quote from: a fool and his money ... on October 28, 2018, 04:49:49 PM

Quote from: hush on October 28, 2018, 12:56:08 PM

I am waiting for enteral exchange system which will bring more exposure towards this platform. They are more active on telegram it seems ongoing 100 development plan will put this in very good position.

Unfortunately, the term of the 100 day plan is coming to an end, but much of the promise has not been done. Let's hope to speed up development in the future.

I believe we should consider the 100 days plan as a rough timeframe with guesstimated milestones to be done sometimes in advance or later that the timeframes states.

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Quote from: hush on October 28, 2018, 12:56:08 PM

I am waiting for enteral exchange system which will bring more exposure towards this platform. They are more active on telegram it seems ongoing 100 development plan will put this in very good position.

Unfortunately, the term of the 100 day plan is coming to an end, but much of the promise has not been done. Let's hope to speed up development in the future.

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I am waiting for enteral exchange system which will bring more exposure towards this platform. They are more active on telegram it seems ongoing 100 development plan will put this in very good position.

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Quote from: cryptocreap on October 26, 2018, 06:18:47 AM

Quote from: rumax on October 25, 2018, 02:24:05 PM

Quote from: timpum on October 25, 2018, 12:50:11 PM

Quote from: ampirebus on October 25, 2018, 06:07:46 AM

Quote from: timpum on October 25, 2018, 04:15:52 AM

Quote from: ampirebus on October 24, 2018, 03:38:53 AM

Check my previous message carefully once again, please. We will work with our clients-banks (in our case), only according to the terms of mutual business agreement. The main responsibility for us as for a company is to fulfill the terms of such an agreement and of course, not to violate them. It is obviously, that it is in our own interests. Why do we have to compromise the security of the banks? Basically, I see no point and reasonable arguments for that.

Unfortunately you did not convince me. I do not see the point for banks to take risks and depend on one stranger. By the way, today's reality so far confirms my assumptions. There is still no real implementation of the agreements.

Okay, your point of view is still your point of view. You have the right to have your own opinion on something and I can't force you to believe/trust in something. Nevertheless, your point of view seems to be very biased and based on nothing real (there are only your hypotheses) . Unfortunately, I don't see even one real or fundamental point.

You accuse me of bias, but you yourself can not explain what the reasons for banks and governments must to trust one stranger who personally controls the system. Especially if he is new on the market.

What are your suggestions to address this issue? I think the team needs to make several partnerships in order to show its reliability and quality! Then everything will happen by itself and newcomers to the market can get a significant share of this segment!

there is no suggestion here. Universa have chosen PoA. I think it is a good way to fight 51% attack offering 91% nodes consensus in addition.

I really like this model. I think it will work good in practice. No way some one party will have more than 90% power. because at least Universa itself will have its 10% share so malicious attacker can do nothing. Very brilliant.

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Quote from: dishku on October 28, 2018, 06:48:56 AM

Quote from: ampirebus on October 28, 2018, 06:08:14 AM

Quote from: nira09 on October 26, 2018, 10:49:56 PM

sorry, do anyone know why the Universa twitter account is suspended? today I can't open a Universa twitter account.

Twitter is working now, please join! https://twitter.com/Universa_News

Just clicked on this link it working fine without any problem sometimes Twitter put suspended status without any valid reason even this account is being used only to share official news and updated regarding this project.

Yes, that's not the first case actually. Apparently, Twitter tries to do it for our own sake, but sometimes the system fails and we have legit accounts blocked.

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Quote from: ampirebus on October 28, 2018, 06:08:14 AM

Quote from: nira09 on October 26, 2018, 10:49:56 PM

sorry, do anyone know why the Universa twitter account is suspended? today I can't open a Universa twitter account.

Twitter is working now, please join! https://twitter.com/Universa_News

Just clicked on this link it working fine without any problem sometimes Twitter put suspended status without any valid reason even this account is being used only to share official news and updated regarding this project.

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Quote from: nira09 on October 26, 2018, 10:49:56 PM

sorry, do anyone know why the Universa twitter account is suspended? today I can't open a Universa twitter account.

Twitter is working now, please join! https://twitter.com/Universa_News

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Quote from: ryangosling on October 27, 2018, 10:05:31 AM

Yes, you are right. After a few good cases will come another ones. This will earn credibility. Besides as was mentioned above, no one has to take their word on anything. That's business and there are agreements there. Official agreements will ensure that two parties will do as conditions tell them to do. If someone breaches a clause, they will suffer consequences.

The most difficult thing is to get the first serious customers. And also to show that the projects have already been implemented and they work without problems.

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Quote from: rumax on October 25, 2018, 02:24:05 PM

Quote from: timpum on October 25, 2018, 12:50:11 PM

Quote from: ampirebus on October 25, 2018, 06:07:46 AM

Quote from: timpum on October 25, 2018, 04:15:52 AM

Quote from: ampirebus on October 24, 2018, 03:38:53 AM

Check my previous message carefully once again, please. We will work with our clients-banks (in our case), only according to the terms of mutual business agreement. The main responsibility for us as for a company is to fulfill the terms of such an agreement and of course, not to violate them. It is obviously, that it is in our own interests. Why do we have to compromise the security of the banks? Basically, I see no point and reasonable arguments for that.

Unfortunately you did not convince me. I do not see the point for banks to take risks and depend on one stranger. By the way, today's reality so far confirms my assumptions. There is still no real implementation of the agreements.

Okay, your point of view is still your point of view. You have the right to have your own opinion on something and I can't force you to believe/trust in something. Nevertheless, your point of view seems to be very biased and based on nothing real (there are only your hypotheses) . Unfortunately, I don't see even one real or fundamental point.

You accuse me of bias, but you yourself can not explain what the reasons for banks and governments must to trust one stranger who personally controls the system. Especially if he is new on the market.

What are your suggestions to address this issue? I think the team needs to make several partnerships in order to show its reliability and quality! Then everything will happen by itself and newcomers to the market can get a significant share of this segment!

Yes, you are right. After a few good cases will come another ones. This will earn credibility. Besides as was mentioned above, no one has to take their word on anything. That's business and there are agreements there. Official agreements will ensure that two parties will do as conditions tell them to do. If someone breaches a clause, they will suffer consequences.

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Quote from: nira09 on October 26, 2018, 10:49:56 PM

sorry, do anyone know why the Universa twitter account is suspended? today I can't open a Universa twitter account.

Sometimes Twitter suspends accounts for no reason. I saw it happen many times. Facebook does the same. I had such issues before, just wrote to support and after a while it was solved.

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Actually whole system is working on bindings and consensus based on trust and dispute resolving mechanisms. This is how the current financial system is working where things are interconnected. Not talking about Universa specifically but overall blockchain is most transparent ledger till today we saw being on this good projects which will have solutions of existed problems will see adoption automatically. Market is always open to welcome product which has demand. Universa is being developed and shouldn't be judged as half ready product but when it will be ready.

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Quote from: nira09 on October 26, 2018, 10:49:56 PM

sorry, do anyone know why the Universa twitter account is suspended? today I can't open a Universa twitter account.

Hello!
There isn't any particular reason to worry about. Sometimes it happens, we sent an official message to Twitter support. This issue will be resolved shortly.

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sorry, do anyone know why the Universa twitter account is suspended? today I can't open a Universa twitter account.

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Quote from: timpum on October 25, 2018, 12:50:11 PM

Quote from: ampirebus on October 25, 2018, 06:07:46 AM

Quote from: timpum on October 25, 2018, 04:15:52 AM

Quote from: ampirebus on October 24, 2018, 03:38:53 AM

Check my previous message carefully once again, please. We will work with our clients-banks (in our case), only according to the terms of mutual business agreement. The main responsibility for us as for a company is to fulfill the terms of such an agreement and of course, not to violate them. It is obviously, that it is in our own interests. Why do we have to compromise the security of the banks? Basically, I see no point and reasonable arguments for that.

Unfortunately you did not convince me. I do not see the point for banks to take risks and depend on one stranger. By the way, today's reality so far confirms my assumptions. There is still no real implementation of the agreements.

Okay, your point of view is still your point of view. You have the right to have your own opinion on something and I can't force you to believe/trust in something. Nevertheless, your point of view seems to be very biased and based on nothing real (there are only your hypotheses) . Unfortunately, I don't see even one real or fundamental point.

You accuse me of bias, but you yourself can not explain what the reasons for banks and governments must to trust one stranger who personally controls the system. Especially if he is new on the market.

That is why all blockchain classifiers attribute Universa to private blockchains. Although the project team does not agree with this and believes that Universa is a public blockchain.

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