Topic: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ - page 101. (Read 825850 times)

What would you like to know, everything?  My request for transparency is exactly the same request as yours.  I think at this point it's important for Drak to let us know on record what's been happening.  The last he told me back in December (and probably the biggest event that was supposedly happening behind the scenes) was that Patrick Byrne reached out to him about getting involved in the Medici project.  Not only am I suspecting that isn't happening at this point, but now I'm beginning to wonder if that was ever really going to happen.  I think it's best for Drak to disclose everything to the community now, don't you?

Ok, then I guess you should not limit yourself to this example. Otherwise, it only leaves ample room for speculation.

I was led to believe there was much more happening and now I suspect that's not really the case, which is why I think the best approach moving forward for the community as well as the project is to take assessment of what's happening, what exactly funds have been used for to date, and how much of the original funds remain.  

As far as my involvement goes, from the beginning, I've pushed this coin behind the scenes.  I've probably been one of the largest evangalists for the coin.  Hell, I even converted 200k VIA for XCH as a show of support, even though I wasn't totally excited about a surprise second raise.  I introduced Btcdrak to Expresscoin, and pushed to have Expresscoin adopt VIA (which eventually fell through because Btcdrak mishandled the press release and ran it without their review).  Ultimately this cost me my relationship with Expresscoin, as their CEO was going to add the coin as a personal favor.  I'm pointing this out specifically as an example about the level of involvement that I've had with this coin, and that when I say there are things happening behind the scenes I typically am in the know.  With this coin, while before I thought a lot more was happening, I'm beginning to suspect that's no longer the case and I have some very serious concerns.

I tend not post too often, but I have a history of working closely with alt coins and helping them achieve their goals.  Fwiw, I was also personally responsible for having DRK added to Bitfinex, I brought aboard the single largest investors to DRK, VIA and XCH, among other things (if you would like other examples of my involvements).  

At this point I think it's best to get some transparency, and go from there.

...sooo your last post was on how much is going on behind the scenes and now you are disapointed about the same thing. Wtf is going on here?

Otoh and I have basically written off our investments in VIA and XCH (between the syndicate of investors I work with it is around 3M VIA).  A lot has been mishandled behind the scenes.  At this point, I'd like to see some transparency as to how the original funds have been used and how much of the original funds remain.  I've been very close with the projects since it's inception.  It's probably best to just disclose everything so the community knows where things stand moving forward.  

I think the window of opportunity VIA ever had has been missed, mostly due to Btcdraks inability to create any sort of meaningful adoption of VIA.  

I'll be putting a more official post together soon, but in the meantime feel free to ask any questions.

-masternode

+ bravo Barabbas. Nevertheless, I find the forum rules much to the point. No excesses. Constructive feedback is sufficient. A bit of temperament as Barabbas is showing is giving the forum some liveness, but please contribute with intelligence and be to the point. Many crypto bittalks forums have been restarted because of just negative and adolecent level Fud. Some even have started plural new forums.


I follow this forum almost daily. It will take 5 or 10 minutes to read the last couple of pages, not days or weeks.

Another subjective opinion self-elevated to dogma. Who's "we". The barely half a dozen visitors that, maybe, have read the last couple of pages? It will take weeks, if not months, for a decent amount of visitors to read what has been posted here the last couple of days. 99% of the other times supporters and even current supporters don't visit this forum anymore regularly, because it was dead until the day before yesterday. It's better that they don't read points made? is it better that those points are buried by a few other pages and left to be forgotten? Only for those defending a deplorable status quo, I'd venture. What is wrong with repeating some very valid arguments, especially when NOTHING is being done about them? Why do you feel a military-type of censorship, "benevolently -if arbitrarily- applied", by you, is required? How come you have no interest whatsoever in engaging in any kind of conversation outside of the tech aspects of the project and, yet, you are almost paranoid about keeping "the rules" of a forum that you personally despise? What is it that brings you to the forefront with the (more or less) veiled threats? Shouldn't any moderation, if absolutely inevitable, be in the hands of the Community Manager and not in those of the tech dev?

Truth is that no matter how many times repeated, the itch for control, for silencing critical voices will always be prevalent in you. And that's precisely why it is IMPERATIVE that such potential is taken completely away from you. On to the scissors, I guess...

Retaining the right to self moderation is essential IMO. Using it sparingly is vital.

Energy : The last 48 hours are a good example of the latent interest here. Critical discussion is a good start, whatever it is called.


Like many Cryptos which are technically good or innovative, VIA is in need firstly of wider adoption (the big issue always). A bigger dev team is also essential if there is to be real growth. IMO that is a very big ask, and awareness of the key advantages of VIA/XCH can really only be spread properly by intelligent marketing.

There are substantial financial institutions out there right now making their first real investigations of the feasibility of Blockchain Transactions/Registers, and VIA is not going to appear on their radar without a huge increase in visibility.

Strawman arguments again. It's time to stop repeating yourself over and over. You've made your points. I think we all understand it clearly.

And how about removing the self-moderated condition, instead? We do not have anything to hide, right? then why self-moderated? why those peculiar and dictatorial rules designed to curtail freedom of speech and leaving the censor scissors in your very subjective hands? what is the damage if someone decides to FUD here? It would be a good opportunity, if anything, to objectively rebut whatever allegations, with facts and figures, right? What is the advantage of censorship? haven't you had enough of it already and its subsequent consequences, decimating the price?

Apparently not...

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The thread being "alive" is, obviously, positive. But what I believe it is important is not so much that it is alive, with members of the community coming in and asking for communication , offering ideas, etc, which is all very positive by comparison to the thread, the communication and the price, being dead or dying. I believe the really positive thing is that both the dev (kind of) and the Community Manager have shown up perhaps as a con sequence of the "noise" and have shown that if not exactly ALIVE, the project at least is not totally left to continue drifting into obsolescence. perhaps they both realize now that they need to not just get much more involved in a much more frequent basis, but actually DO SOMETHING or, more importantly, GET A BUNCH OF THINGS, that are imperative, DONE.

And, even more important, the community -or some of its members at least- realize now clearly that if nothing is done, the project will inevitably die, no matter how "advanced" technically it pretends to be. Unless the community demands, and engages in, real action, neither drak nor Eric will do anything. They didn't before, why would they do it now. They both believe that "giving the circumstances" they have done and do more than enough. It is up to the community to let them know where everyone stands. And, needless to say, to force on them to keep this thread REALLY ALIVE.

Thanks to barabbas the thread started to come alive again.

Sure Lol

Bitcointalk?  Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded.  

Just kidding.  Nothing gets "buried" here from those of us who know how to dig.

Bitcoin (and Monero, etc) do just fine in this rowdy atmosphere.  Is VIA not also antifragile?

Vanishingly few will follow VIA to boring deserted places like blog/twit/reddit.

Don't retreat.  Letting "trolls" run you off looks terrible and doesn't help your coin.

Embrace the trial by fire and learn to use the energy here for VIA's advantage.

It's a maintenance release that restricts valid signatures to exactly what is mandated by DER encoded signatures to make the consensus rules not depend on OpenSSL's signature parsing.

I linked to BIP66 in the previous post, here it is again https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0066.mediawiki - but it's not really anything consumer facing. It's a fix for something ugly that has been a problem in the Bitcoin protocol for a long time.

Thank you for your encouragement. Unfortunately there are multiple reasons why I choose to decline your suggestion, among many others, a clash in concept that I would have with you right from the start: I do not believe criticism without "action" is the worst kind of criticism. Not at all. Almost the contrary. So, right there, we would clash. And that's not even counting in the inevitable crashes with someone, who happens to be the ultimate decider, and whose actions (or lack thereof) I find reprobable in 90% or more of the cases. I disagree with you thoroughly when you pretend you don't need an OK here to do anything, when in actuality this is a total dictatorship, no matter how "bening" drak chooses to make it at that at times.

Also, as stated, volunterism should not exist in an obvious "for profit" project like this. NOR, I may add, should all the burden be carried even by the majority stake holders. But yes, leaders should lead. And since they stand to benefit much more than anyone else, they should be leading by example.

Any involvement of mine, of course, would not tolerate the obvious disdain with which drak relates to the supporters and investors in his project, exemplified by the minimal statements like the last one about some BIp66 that no one seems to know what the heck it means, does or how can benefit VIA. He doesn't bother to explain it, much less be enthusiastic or promotional about it. He just dumps it here -which he makes no secret he despises- in the less friendly way possible and goes immediately back to whatever he does in his life with the implication that he will commit some effort maybe twice a year to this thing. And not even a commitment, more like "if I really continue feeling like it" kind of thing.

BHut, being 100% honest as I try to be always, I know my limitations. And to even the thought of entertaining to possibility of working for the benefit of some of the members of the community, would revolt me. As you know, my criticisms are rather start, not precisely sugar coated in many instances. And like some that even concede I may have not just one but several points will volunteer to point out, to some in the community that is too harsh... not to mention the fact that they gladly drink the kool aid that the dev "is not your employee...." etc, etc. I will restrain myself for once, to qualify my feelings towards those people. Lets just nicely put it this way: They are a bit beyond "mutual", ok?

So, once again thanks for the consideration. But no, thanks.

I also believe I can do much more good keeping an eye on developments and actions -or lack there of- from the sidelines. Supporting what I consider positive, criticizing what I consider negative and, like I have just done, offering suggestions. You may keep on considering it "the worst type of criticism" and we will just have to continue to agree to disagree.

I don't recommend to waste much money on marketing at this moment. Development and communication is the key.

I still believe in the fundamental idea here: a specialized blockchain free of bitcoin politics. In comparison with Counterparty/Mastercoin approach, there are both advantages and disadvantages. But I am sure there is a niche for Via to fill.

I think communication is lacking here. It' s really sad to see how drak underestimates this forum. Reports should be regular, there should be explanations. What is BIP66, for example? How will it help Via?  Etc, etc. What's the development strategy now? Will Via/xch just follow Btc/xcp development? Or is there a plan to develop something to use via blockchain unique features (like longer op code)? (To differentiate the product from Btc/XCP)?

All the useful information should be collected and published somewhere (webpage, blog?), but it should be always posted here.

Don't worry about the fud. Dead coins don't have fudsters. Silent threads are worse than fudded threads.