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BTCspace

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 04:34:55 PM

Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:29:58 PM

i am also waiting for a Windows client or Mac client.. Grin

Both are already there, I am using the Mac version already. Just install Oracle JDK 8 (no openjdk) and use ./compile.sh as well as ./run-desktop.sh scripts ;-)

Alternatively, ./run.sh and a browser pointing to http://localhost:17876.

There is also a packager, which is not yet tested but will create a Elastic.app for your Launchpad. I guess Unvoid will do some guides soon.

that's nice, thank you EK, i will run my own node.

Evil-Knievel

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Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:29:58 PM

i am also waiting for a Windows client or Mac client.. Grin

Both are already there, I am using the Mac version already. Just install Oracle JDK 8 (no openjdk) and use ./compile.sh as well as ./run-desktop.sh scripts ;-)

Alternatively, ./run.sh and a browser pointing to http://localhost:17876.

There is also a packager, which is not yet tested but will create a Elastic.app for your Launchpad. I guess Unvoid will do some guides soon.

provenceday

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 04:28:07 PM

One safe way to forge on a remote node would be to "lease" your XEL from a main account to a throwaway account. This account can then forge on a remote node ... it's not dangerous if the private key gets stolen, because your original account (which owns the lent XEL) is not compromised then.

have you got a XEL account? Wink

i want you can save more polar bear

i am saving some young elephant in kenya.

thank you for make this happen for the community.

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I'm waiting for a Windows or Mac client, since the only dealings I've ever had with Linux is in the Peanuts cartoon strip. ;-)

BTCspace

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 04:26:55 PM

Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:23:55 PM

i hope it not.

also will the forging will be automatically activated after i claimed my XEL ?

can i stop the forge by myself?

thank you EK.

You should really only use a local node installed on your computer. Because if it transmits the passphrase, then in cleartext. But if you do not start forging you should have no reason to worry about.

Forging only starts automatically when you log into your account locally. If you use a remote wallet, you will see a "Gray icon" on the forging button. Only if you click it, enter your passphrase and confirm that you want to start forging, then you will be forging.

However, forging is a good thing. If done locally on your own computer with a local wallet installed, it should be totally safe.

ok thank you for the answer.. i think i have to setup a Linux node by myself..

i am also waiting for a Windows client or Mac client.. Grin

Evil-Knievel

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One safe way to forge on a remote node would be to "lease" your XEL from a main account to a throwaway account. This account can then forge on a remote node ... it's not dangerous if the private key gets stolen, because your original account (which owns the lent XEL) is not compromised then.

Evil-Knievel

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Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:23:55 PM

i hope it not.

also will the forging will be automatically activated after i claimed my XEL ?

can i stop the forge by myself?

thank you EK.

You should really only use a local node installed on your computer. Because if it transmits the passphrase, then in cleartext. But if you do not start forging you should have no reason to worry about.

Forging only starts automatically when you log into your account locally. If you use a remote wallet, you will see a "Gray icon" on the forging button. Only if you click it, enter your passphrase and confirm that you want to start forging, then you will be forging.

However, forging is a good thing. If done locally on your own computer with a local wallet installed, it should be totally safe.

BTCspace

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Quote from: VDechand on June 18, 2017, 04:02:42 PM

How can i mine XEL?

sell your GPU and buy some XEL, and put the XEL in the wallet, then you can start mine XEL . Wink

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 04:12:43 PM

Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:09:46 PM

i just hope not my password in plaintext.

my bet is it doesn't send the password.

Well, IF it is transmitted to the server (which definitely is the case for forging), then it is transmitted in clear text. It may be tunnelled through an SSL socket, but it will definitely arrive as clear text at the server side.

i hope it not.

also will the forging will be automatically activated after i claimed my XEL ?

can i stop the forge by myself?

thank you EK.

Evil-Knievel

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Maybe one use case for the alias thing. If you for example have a charity account and want to prove, that this account really belongs to you (stepping out of the anonymity), then you could set an account name and put some VERISIGN trusted signature into the description.

Evil-Knievel

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Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:12:08 PM

also what we can do with the alias system?

seems i can not send XEL to an alias name account

It has no real purpose, it just allows you to give your account a nice looking name, and a description. This may help for public interest accounts, but may as well not help at all. Just a nice gimmick, nothing more.

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Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:09:46 PM

i just hope not my password in plaintext.

my bet is it doesn't send the password.

Well, IF it is transmitted to the server (which definitely is the case for forging), then it is transmitted in clear text. It may be tunnelled through an SSL socket, but it will definitely arrive as clear text at the server side.

BTCspace

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also what we can do with the alias system?

seems i can not send XEL to an alias name account

BTCspace

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 04:06:38 PM

Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:03:11 PM

yes, why the server need my password? Grin

There are already some bets going on if it really sends the password to the server or if it doesn't. My bet is, that it doesn't, but I would not guarantee it yet.

The best practice is to run a local node anyway, then you don't have to worry about such things.

i just hope not my password in plaintext.

my bet is it doesn't send the password.

Evil-Knievel

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Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 04:03:11 PM

yes, why the server need my password? Grin

There are already some bets going on if it really sends the password to the server or if it doesn't. My bet is, that it doesn't, but I would not guarantee it yet.

The best practice is to run a local node anyway, then you don't have to worry about such things.

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Quote from: dumple on June 18, 2017, 03:59:31 PM

Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 03:55:13 PM

Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 03:54:01 PM

can we setup another password in the wallet?

First of all:
The passphrase is everything that stands between your account and the rest of the world. Do not use any meaningful sentence, especially any that appears in song or literature. Please understand, that your account functions like a brain wallet: if two people use the same passphrase, they have access to the same XEL. If you lose your password, everything is gone! There are no internal backups or anything.

So you have to make it very strong. What would the second password be intended for?

Perhaps that warning when redeeming "Your passphrase will be sent to the server" has him worried.

yes, why the server need my password? Grin

VDechand

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How can i mine XEL?

BTCspace

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 03:55:13 PM

Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 03:54:01 PM

can we setup another password in the wallet?

First of all:
The passphrase is everything that stands between your account and the rest of the world. Do not use any meaningful sentence, especially any that appears in song or literature. Please understand, that your account functions like a brain wallet: if two people use the same passphrase, they have access to the same XEL. If you lose your password, everything is gone! There are no internal backups or anything.

So you have to make it very strong. What would the second password be intended for?

i remember when i use NXT clients years ago..i can choose my own password to access my NXT account...

but today seems i can only use 12 random words, maybe it's more safe.

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 18, 2017, 03:55:13 PM

Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 03:54:01 PM

can we setup another password in the wallet?

First of all:
The passphrase is everything that stands between your account and the rest of the world. Do not use any meaningful sentence, especially any that appears in song or literature. Please understand, that your account functions like a brain wallet: if two people use the same passphrase, they have access to the same XEL. If you lose your password, everything is gone! There are no internal backups or anything.

So you have to make it very strong. What would the second password be intended for?

Perhaps that warning when redeeming "Your passphrase will be sent to the server" has him worried.

Evil-Knievel

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Quote from: BTCspace on June 18, 2017, 03:54:01 PM

can we setup another password in the wallet?

First of all:
The passphrase is everything that stands between your account and the rest of the world. Do not use any meaningful sentence, especially any that appears in song or literature. Please understand, that your account functions like a brain wallet: if two people use the same passphrase, they have access to the same XEL. If you lose your password, everything is gone! There are no internal backups or anything.

So you have to make it very strong. What would the second password be intended for?

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