Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax - page 236. (Read 339751 times)
I hope ZCL gets listed fast @ bittrex & polo , i want to see a fair competition
The initial difficulty parameters for Zclassic were set low. Difficulty adjusts each block, but it does appear that an early adopter managed to mine 84 blocks. I was not the lucky miner. It was probably someone reading this thread. If I had known people would bring that much solving power to the network that fast, I would have made the initial difficulty a little higher. Because I didn't know how much miners would participate, I kept the default setting low because it re-adjusts each block anyway. The exact code was made publicly available before the launch.
You can see the blocks here now that we have a block explorer: Sorty by height ascending: https://classic.zcha.in/blocks
Placebo is complaining simultaneously that:
1. It's unfair an early adopter mined coins with no existing market and made a lot of money because they are now worth a lot.
2. Zclassic coins will be worthless because clearly Zcash keeps losing value (nevermind their increasing rate of block rewards, high starting difficulty, and 20% tax).
If you don't like that, please fork the coin, start the difficulty out high, give everyone 4 weeks advance notice, and see how easy it is to get miners on board.
It is my belief that a coin should reward early adopters, not the other way around. If you don't like something about Zclassic, don't use it. It's that simple.
If you think the starting parameters in the code were bad, fork it and start a new coin. That's what I did.
Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine
and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC 
, or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number...
And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).
You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....
You can see the blocks here now that we have a block explorer: Sorty by height ascending: https://classic.zcha.in/blocks
Placebo is complaining simultaneously that:
1. It's unfair an early adopter mined coins with no existing market and made a lot of money because they are now worth a lot.
2. Zclassic coins will be worthless because clearly Zcash keeps losing value (nevermind their increasing rate of block rewards, high starting difficulty, and 20% tax).
If you don't like that, please fork the coin, start the difficulty out high, give everyone 4 weeks advance notice, and see how easy it is to get miners on board.
It is my belief that a coin should reward early adopters, not the other way around. If you don't like something about Zclassic, don't use it. It's that simple.
If you think the starting parameters in the code were bad, fork it and start a new coin. That's what I did.
Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine
and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC , or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number... And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).
You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....
I strongly support your choice and this version of Zcash instead of the original "mafia dev reward".
I see a bright future for ZCL if it can gather an united community!
The initial difficulty parameters for Zclassic were set low. Difficulty adjusts each block, but it does appear that an early adopter managed to mine 84 blocks. I was not the lucky miner. It was probably someone reading this thread. If I had known people would bring that much solving power to the network that fast, I would have made the initial difficulty a little higher. Because I didn't know how much miners would participate, I kept the default setting low because it re-adjusts each block anyway. The exact code was made publicly available before the launch.
You can see the blocks here now that we have a block explorer: Sorty by height ascending: https://classic.zcha.in/blocks
Placebo is complaining simultaneously that:
1. It's unfair an early adopter mined coins with no existing market and made a lot of money because they are now worth a lot.
2. Zclassic coins will be worthless because clearly Zcash keeps losing value (nevermind their increasing rate of block rewards, high starting difficulty, and 20% tax).
If you don't like that, please fork the coin, start the difficulty out high, give everyone 4 weeks advance notice, and see how easy it is to get miners on board.
It is my belief that a coin should reward early adopters, not the other way around. If you don't like something about Zclassic, don't use it. It's that simple.
If you think the starting parameters in the code were bad, fork it and start a new coin. That's what I did.
Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC , or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number...
And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).
You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....
You can see the blocks here now that we have a block explorer: Sorty by height ascending: https://classic.zcha.in/blocks
Placebo is complaining simultaneously that:
1. It's unfair an early adopter mined coins with no existing market and made a lot of money because they are now worth a lot.
2. Zclassic coins will be worthless because clearly Zcash keeps losing value (nevermind their increasing rate of block rewards, high starting difficulty, and 20% tax).
If you don't like that, please fork the coin, start the difficulty out high, give everyone 4 weeks advance notice, and see how easy it is to get miners on board.
It is my belief that a coin should reward early adopters, not the other way around. If you don't like something about Zclassic, don't use it. It's that simple.
If you think the starting parameters in the code were bad, fork it and start a new coin. That's what I did.
Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine
and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC , or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number... And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).
You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....
What Zclassic have a roadmap and the future, I see some threads get it similar to zcash
There was a little bug for the anonymous (Walletaddress) users on our stats as they weren't displayed correctly, that is now fixed on https://pool.mn/zclassic
Your pool and website is good, always responsive and transactions show up fast.
My hashrate is not showing on suprnova but i'm submitting shares successfully from a dozen minutes with 280x GPU.
Is it normal or what?
Is it normal or what?
Nope, you should see your hashrate on the Dashboard and in "Edit Account" -> "My Workers".
Make sure the username / workername matches
Solved, my issue. Thanks.
There was a little bug for the anonymous (Walletaddress) users on our stats as they weren't displayed correctly, that is now fixed on https://pool.mn/zclassic
My hashrate is not showing on suprnova but i'm submitting shares successfully from a dozen minutes with 280x GPU.
Is it normal or what?
Is it normal or what?
Nope, you should see your hashrate on the Dashboard and in "Edit Account" -> "My Workers".
Make sure the username / workername matches
My hashrate is not showing on suprnova but i'm submitting shares successfully from a dozen minutes with 280x GPU.
Is it normal or what?
Is it normal or what?
that is not premine... he just mined and no oen gave care about his project... he posted ann thread way earlier than mining started... he just did not announce the release date of the live net but ehy ... what is that ? 3000 coin out of 21 milions ?
placebo
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/placebo-164164
I read from time to time some posts from this guy and in my opinion that account is bought.
A person which now writing seems to me don't have base technical and altcoin knowlage (knowlage which original placebo has) .Writing some stupid arguments.
Generally it's a different person
Must to say that for me that account is 100% bought.
But of course judge yourself
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/placebo-164164
I read from time to time some posts from this guy and in my opinion that account is bought.
A person which now writing seems to me don't have base technical and altcoin knowlage (knowlage which original placebo has) .Writing some stupid arguments.
Generally it's a different person
Must to say that for me that account is 100% bought.
But of course judge yourself
OH NO THE DEV GOT SOME VALUE FROM HIS CREATION! HOW HORRIBLE AND IMMORAL!
So far you found sweet fuck all. Come back when you do.
Ok, lets put the real facts here
https://classic.zcha.in/blocks
Chech the first blocks and check this one
t1ZiuPPaCuTGAQaqg1mXc9f7fTuschtFb3sHe was the first miner with 84 blocks before someone else could found a block
That sounds a lot of premine 84 x 12.5 is already a little more then just 0.35 BTC SCAM ALERT - PREMINE COIN!!!
https://classic.zcha.in/accounts/t1ZiuPPaCuTGAQaqg1mXc9f7fTuschtFb3s
Total Sent
3137.5013215 ZCL
Total Received
3137.5013215 ZCL
PS: I'm a little too long in the business to fool me
who cares?i mined around 500 coins in the time and ?
So far you found sweet fuck all. Come back when you do.
Ok, lets put the real facts here
https://classic.zcha.in/blocks
Chech the first blocks and check this one
t1ZiuPPaCuTGAQaqg1mXc9f7fTuschtFb3sHe was the first miner with 84 blocks before someone else could found a block
That sounds a lot of premine 84 x 12.5 is already a little more then just 0.35 BTC SCAM ALERT - PREMINE COIN!!!
https://classic.zcha.in/accounts/t1ZiuPPaCuTGAQaqg1mXc9f7fTuschtFb3s
Total Sent
3137.5013215 ZCL
Total Received
3137.5013215 ZCL
PS: I'm a little too long in the business to fool me
The problem with ZCL is the premine blocks:
But all looks like they were mined before the ANN....
People should maybe double check the block explorer themselves and compare it against the time when the thread was created
But all looks like they were mined before the ANN....
People should maybe double check the block explorer themselves and compare it against the time when the thread was created
Op Addressed in the initial post
Quote
After failing at those two approaches, on Halloween, I announced, "I'm forking Zcash with no 20% Founders Reward. Ping me to help. There won't be any reward for helping."
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/793201219393105921
I offer my sincere apology to the community for people who feel they may have missed the announcement because there wasn't enough advance notice. I was reaching out to people, but I did not have the large exposure of a foundation with investors.
Now that the coin is live, most of what you see above is work done by the community. This coin is almost 4 days old, and I'm amazed at what we've done so far.
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/793201219393105921
I offer my sincere apology to the community for people who feel they may have missed the announcement because there wasn't enough advance notice. I was reaching out to people, but I did not have the large exposure of a foundation with investors.
Now that the coin is live, most of what you see above is work done by the community. This coin is almost 4 days old, and I'm amazed at what we've done so far.
So at best he ninja launched 83 blocks before the 1st person started to mine besides him
83 blocks x 2.5 minutes = 208 minutes = around 3 hours, its what we are discussing here measly 3 hours and there was no ill intend as explained on the initial post
1037 coins out of the 21 000 0000 = That's 0,000049405 %
This is a community Project now, much bigger than any individual.
I gotta to say Thanks to Rhett for kickstarting this project, and he really deserves those 0,000049405 % coins in my opinion.
You can do all the trolling you want, you fail to understand there's a really community rallying behind this coin.
Something that you and your scam coins ever failed to do.
Every project needs some advantage or incentive for the dev. Ninja launch is one strategy. This is not something new. (lol)
While this may seem obvious for the smart people, just do some research on the dev and who tweeted about this project.
The problem with ZCL is the premine blocks:
But all looks like they were mined before the ANN....
People should maybe double check the block explorer themselves and compare it against the time when the thread was created
But all looks like they were mined before the ANN....
People should maybe double check the block explorer themselves and compare it against the time when the thread was created
Op Addressed in the initial post
Quote
After failing at those two approaches, on Halloween, I announced, "I'm forking Zcash with no 20% Founders Reward. Ping me to help. There won't be any reward for helping."
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/793201219393105921
I offer my sincere apology to the community for people who feel they may have missed the announcement because there wasn't enough advance notice. I was reaching out to people, but I did not have the large exposure of a foundation with investors.
Now that the coin is live, most of what you see above is work done by the community. This coin is almost 4 days old, and I'm amazed at what we've done so far.
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/793201219393105921
I offer my sincere apology to the community for people who feel they may have missed the announcement because there wasn't enough advance notice. I was reaching out to people, but I did not have the large exposure of a foundation with investors.
Now that the coin is live, most of what you see above is work done by the community. This coin is almost 4 days old, and I'm amazed at what we've done so far.
So at best he ninja launched 83 blocks before the 1st person started to mine besides him
83 blocks x 2.5 minutes = 208 minutes = around 3 hours, its what we are discussing here measly 3 hours and there was no ill intend as explained on the initial post
1037 coins out of the 21 000 0000 = That's 0,000049405 %
This is a community Project now, much bigger than any individual.
I gotta to say Thanks to Rhett for kickstarting this project, and he really deserves those 0,000049405 % coins in my opinion.
You can do all the trolling you want, you fail to understand there's a really community rallying behind this coin.
Something that you and your scam coins ever failed to do.
Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine
and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC , or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number... And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).
You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....
The problem with ZCL is the premine blocks:
But all looks like they were mined before the ANN....
People should maybe double check the block explorer themselves and compare it against the time when the thread was created
But all looks like they were mined before the ANN....
People should maybe double check the block explorer themselves and compare it against the time when the thread was created
Op Addressed in the initial post
Quote
After failing at those two approaches, on Halloween, I announced, "I'm forking Zcash with no 20% Founders Reward. Ping me to help. There won't be any reward for helping."
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/793201219393105921
I offer my sincere apology to the community for people who feel they may have missed the announcement because there wasn't enough advance notice. I was reaching out to people, but I did not have the large exposure of a foundation with investors.
Now that the coin is live, most of what you see above is work done by the community. This coin is almost 4 days old, and I'm amazed at what we've done so far.
https://twitter.com/HeyRhett/status/793201219393105921
I offer my sincere apology to the community for people who feel they may have missed the announcement because there wasn't enough advance notice. I was reaching out to people, but I did not have the large exposure of a foundation with investors.
Now that the coin is live, most of what you see above is work done by the community. This coin is almost 4 days old, and I'm amazed at what we've done so far.
So at best he ninja launched 83 blocks before the 1st person started to mine besides him
83 blocks x 2.5 minutes = 208 minutes = around 3 hours, its what we are discussing here measly 3 hours and there was no ill intend as explained on the initial post
1037 coins out of the 21 000 0000 = That's 0,000049405 %
This is a community Project now, much bigger than any individual.
I gotta to say Thanks to Rhett for kickstarting this project, and he really deserves those 0,000049405 % coins in my opinion.
You can do all the trolling you want, you fail to understand there's a really community rallying behind this coin.
Something that you and your scam coins ever failed to do.
Hi!
Is there any chance ZCL gets listed on poloniex?
is anyone working on it?
Is there any chance ZCL gets listed on poloniex?
is anyone working on it?
Which exchanges are currently trading Zclassic ? I looked on Cryptrader.com but couldn't see it listed there.
Exchanges:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=ZCL_BTC
https://c-cex.com/?p=zcl-btc
https://www.tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=ZCL_BTC
Which exchanges are currently trading Zclassic ? I looked on Cryptrader.com but couldn't see it listed there.
Exchanges:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=ZCL_BTC
https://c-cex.com/?p=zcl-btc
https://www.tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=ZCL_BTC
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