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The manner in which his launched cryptocoin is played/mastermind constitutes to fraud in every definition of fraud in all country where fraud is illegal. One good thing on this is the culprit is known and the details of scams are publicly available and directly coming from him. stone-hard evidences. Good luck to him. his lawyer will defend him only for the money he will pay, but that attorney knows this idiot is a lost cause. 10-15 years I think base on some that I looked at with huge penalties also to make statement to the whole crypto community.

I can guarantee this is not a fraud here. If someone tried to sue Rhett or ZCL team in my country with the "evidence" you are providing.. most likely the judge would laugh at their face. You being stupid doesn't make anyone guilty to a fraud. There are thousands of people happy at what they got. Some got money out of ZCL, some got money out of ZCL and BTCP on top of that. Some were stupid and bought ZCL at 100-200$ and ended up crying.

How many people have sued Satoshi or BTC community for losing money in BTC peak drop? 19k$ -> 6k$. How many people sold in panic ending up losing hundreds of thousands? Same thing here, only responsible person is you.

Directly(him only) and/or connivance to fraud and/or thru pump and dump schemes which he knew from the start. The motives are there. Clear evidences coming from him directly publicly posted. This is really not looking good for him and his associates. We should not be blind and bend the law for some ones gain by fraudulent manner. That is bad.  
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The manner in which his launched cryptocoin is played/mastermind constitutes to fraud in every definition of fraud in all country where fraud is illegal. One good thing on this is the culprit is known and the details of scams are publicly available and directly coming from him. stone-hard evidences. Good luck to him. his lawyer will defend him only for the money he will pay, but that attorney knows this idiot is a lost cause. 10-15 years I think base on some that I looked at with huge penalties also to make statement to the whole crypto community.

I can guarantee this is not a fraud here. If someone tried to sue Rhett or ZCL team in my country with the "evidence" you are providing.. most likely the judge would laugh at their face. You being stupid doesn't make anyone guilty to a fraud. There are thousands of people happy at what they got. Some got money out of ZCL, some got money out of ZCL and BTCP on top of that. Some were stupid and bought ZCL at 100-200$ and ended up crying.

How many people have sued Satoshi or BTC community for losing money in BTC peak drop? 19k$ -> 6k$. How many people sold in panic ending up losing hundreds of thousands? Same thing here, only responsible person is you.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump.

How is that irrelevant? This information was given before snapshot, not after. There were clear signs on ZCL melting down after the snapshot. Developers told that they will leave the coin as it is and thousands of people told they are gonna dump the coin immediately.

So many gold diggers whining here about losing money. As I stated before, if you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Life's not fair, you should be happy that you even have extra money to invest, or throw into waste. There are millions of people living on the streets without fresh water, food, medical care, education.. and yet you are here whining on this forum because your own stupidity made you lose money.

Don't be a prick, that reddit AMA was ONLY 2 days before the snapshot, pretty deep inside the pump.

fucking read the signs..and I didn't lose any money because I didn't invest in the fuckeing middle of the pump and warned others to stay away.
Rhett fraudulent scheme is quite clear. But cryptocurrencies are just  Ponzi schemes. And many greedy young man like Rhett want to get rich soon. 
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Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that very perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

You really don't understand? Do you know how fraud is regulated? Read the law who and how to be recognized as fraud. Playing on investor confidence is also considered a fraud and it does not exempt them from criminal liability. There are not 1 or 2 investors, there are a lot of people who are involved in this. Here is an even more important detail, as Rhett and his team (with the exception of some) behind the scenes have done some business, earning a profit before the crash. We have some proof of this. Despite the cost of time and money, we will do our best what would they answer. Also after our lawsuit, if we win, we will provide some materials to others that everyone could demand justice.

Laws are different in each country. Where I live cryptocurrencies cannot be compared to normal instruments. If I lose money, I cannot reduce it in taxation. If I gain money from cryptocurrencies it will be taxed as normal income, not investment income. Even this supports the fact, that cryptos are not real investment instruments. At least not in my country. There are some stock exchanges that provide trackers which are tied to BTC or ETH and if you buy these and earn money, then it will be investment income.

I doubt that losing money in ZCL will get Rhett or any ZCL team member convicted by any court of law in any country. You lost money purely because of your own stupidity.
Besides what comes to Rhett and ZCL team earning money, it was clearly stated that they have ZCL and will sell it to fund BTCP project. There even was ZCL donation pool where mined ZCL went directly to developers. Even I participated in the donation pool mining and was happy to get BTCP in return instead of ZCL.

The manner in which his launched cryptocoin is played/mastermind constitutes to fraud in every definition of fraud in all country where fraud is illegal. One good thing on this is the culprit is known and the details of scams are publicly available and directly coming from him. stone-hard evidences. Good luck to him. his lawyer will defend him only for the money he will pay, but that attorney knows this idiot is a lost cause. 10-15 years I think base on some that I looked at with huge penalties also to make statement to the whole crypto community.
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We're trying to get together some development ideas for Zclassic, please join the new telegram or discord channels if you're interested in discussing:

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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump.

How is that irrelevant? This information was given before snapshot, not after. There were clear signs on ZCL melting down after the snapshot. Developers told that they will leave the coin as it is and thousands of people told they are gonna dump the coin immediately.

So many gold diggers whining here about losing money. As I stated before, if you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Life's not fair, you should be happy that you even have extra money to invest, or throw into waste. There are millions of people living on the streets without fresh water, food, medical care, education.. and yet you are here whining on this forum because your own stupidity made you lose money.

Don't be a prick, that reddit AMA was ONLY 2 days before the snapshot, pretty deep inside the pump.

fucking read the signs..and I didn't lose any money because I didn't invest in the fuckeing middle of the pump and warned others to stay away.
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Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that very perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

You really don't understand? Do you know how fraud is regulated? Read the law who and how to be recognized as fraud. Playing on investor confidence is also considered a fraud and it does not exempt them from criminal liability. There are not 1 or 2 investors, there are a lot of people who are involved in this. Here is an even more important detail, as Rhett and his team (with the exception of some) behind the scenes have done some business, earning a profit before the crash. We have some proof of this. Despite the cost of time and money, we will do our best what would they answer. Also after our lawsuit, if we win, we will provide some materials to others that everyone could demand justice.

+1

clear and level headed thought Emilrrr.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump.

How is that irrelevant? This information was given before snapshot, not after. There were clear signs on ZCL melting down after the snapshot. Developers told that they will leave the coin as it is and thousands of people told they are gonna dump the coin immediately.

So many gold diggers whining here about losing money. As I stated before, if you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Life's not fair, you should be happy that you even have extra money to invest, or throw into waste. There are millions of people living on the streets without fresh water, food, medical care, education.. and yet you are here whining on this forum because your own stupidity made you lose money.
If you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Exhibiting each and every available facts is necessary but the obvious is his modus of launch and abandon repeatedly after gaining money detrimental/unjust according to common law practice. Is he above it?  Is crypto scams not covered by no country at all? I dont think so. The rest is moot and academic for the authorities. They just need to start and make this idiot a sample for scammers.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump.

How is that irrelevant? This information was given before snapshot, not after. There were clear signs on ZCL melting down after the snapshot. Developers told that they will leave the coin as it is and thousands of people told they are gonna dump the coin immediately.

So many gold diggers whining here about losing money. As I stated before, if you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Life's not fair, you should be happy that you even have extra money to invest, or throw into waste. There are millions of people living on the streets without fresh water, food, medical care, education.. and yet you are here whining on this forum because your own stupidity made you lose money.
If you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Can't community effectely take over this and continue development? It's not a bad coin... It has good wallets too now.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump.

How is that irrelevant? This information was given before snapshot, not after. There were clear signs on ZCL melting down after the snapshot. Developers told that they will leave the coin as it is and thousands of people told they are gonna dump the coin immediately.

So many gold diggers whining here about losing money. As I stated before, if you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Life's not fair, you should be happy that you even have extra money to invest, or throw into waste. There are millions of people living on the streets without fresh water, food, medical care, education.. and yet you are here whining on this forum because your own stupidity made you lose money.
If you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump.

How is that irrelevant? This information was given before snapshot, not after. There were clear signs on ZCL melting down after the snapshot. Developers told that they will leave the coin as it is and thousands of people told they are gonna dump the coin immediately.

So many gold diggers whining here about losing money. As I stated before, if you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Life's not fair, you should be happy that you even have extra money to invest, or throw into waste. There are millions of people living on the streets without fresh water, food, medical care, education.. and yet you are here whining on this forum because your own stupidity made you lose money.

Take it and think with a clear mind. The probable cause is obviously there. The rest is moot and academic.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump.

How is that irrelevant? This information was given before snapshot, not after. There were clear signs on ZCL melting down after the snapshot. Developers told that they will leave the coin as it is and thousands of people told they are gonna dump the coin immediately.

So many gold diggers whining here about losing money. As I stated before, if you cannot read the signs, you deserve to lose your money.

Life's not fair, you should be happy that you even have extra money to invest, or throw into waste. There are millions of people living on the streets without fresh water, food, medical care, education.. and yet you are here whining on this forum because your own stupidity made you lose money.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


Look at it, where does his obligation reside? Him being the creator and only developer with keys to the official repo announcing the death of progress and developments. He cant be trusted and it showed to his repeated cloning of coins(zclassic, whale,..etc..) then abandoning after obviously obtaining bitcoins thru pump and dump schemes and connivance of such. A modus, and will go on and on if left unchecked.

One is responsible for his actions that's true, and he should also be answerable for his actions and deceits. Where is the law? I don't think he is above it. Its time for him to answer and for the authorities to make him.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.


How is that relevant ? That was a week ago.. in the middle of the pump..   and on the btcp subreddit.
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Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

I tried to do that. Rhett didn't allow me to do so back in September 2017, you may search this thread for my past messages if you like. I gave up on this thing after trying to convince him for months. Bitcoin Private was my idea too, which he called "unnecessary" when I gave him in September. Rhett wants to keep the ownership to himself only, new development team can't take over, thanks to him.

Good luck to those who're still supporting Rhett.


I think it might be different case now that they have BTCP to take care of. I really hope ZCL gets a proper dev team and rises to new glory.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago

We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.

They've clearly stated, that ZCL will be left in it's current state.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinPrivate/comments/809o21/we_are_the_bitcoin_private_team_ama_at_7_pm_est/

BitcoinPrivate 9 points 7 days ago
We are going to continue keeping our ZCL network support (nodes, explorers, etc) alive until further notice. Otherwise, we have no development plans for ZCL. It is a community coin and the community can make pull requests if they want to continue development. All existing Zclassic software will remain on the z-classic GitHub repo.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.

connivance to fraud and scam it is. Rhett's greed.
G7G
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Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

I tried to do that. Rhett didn't allow me to do so back in September 2017, you may search this thread for my past messages if you like. I gave up on this thing after trying to convince him for months. Bitcoin Private was my idea too, which he called "unnecessary" when I gave him in September. Rhett wants to keep the ownership to himself only, new development team can't take over, thanks to him.

Good luck to those who're still supporting Rhett.

pre-planned pump and dump of Rhett is clear now. But it is our mistake, We should never trust a greedy kid

He's not a kid BTW, he's in mid-30's, looks pretty young though.

Then its time for him to go to jail. It could be easy for the authorities. We know who this idiot is.
The cryptocurrency is beautiful because it has the freedom to develop, sell, buy,... . All problems are coming back to ourselves. I have the best wishes for him.
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This was his last message(december) on this thread..

I guess the grand masters idea was the pump & dump scheme using Bitcoin Private.
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Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that very perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

You really don't understand? Do you know how fraud is regulated? Read the law who and how to be recognized as fraud. Playing on investor confidence is also considered a fraud and it does not exempt them from criminal liability. There are not 1 or 2 investors, there are a lot of people who are involved in this. Here is an even more important detail, as Rhett and his team (with the exception of some) behind the scenes have done some business, earning a profit before the crash. We have some proof of this. Despite the cost of time and money, we will do our best what would they answer. Also after our lawsuit, if we win, we will provide some materials to others that everyone could demand justice.

Laws are different in each country. Where I live cryptocurrencies cannot be compared to normal instruments. If I lose money, I cannot reduce it in taxation. If I gain money from cryptocurrencies it will be taxed as normal income, not investment income. Even this supports the fact, that cryptos are not real investment instruments. At least not in my country. There are some stock exchanges that provide trackers which are tied to BTC or ETH and if you buy these and earn money, then it will be investment income.

I doubt that losing money in ZCL will get Rhett or any ZCL team member convicted by any court of law in any country. You lost money purely because of your own stupidity.
Besides what comes to Rhett and ZCL team earning money, it was clearly stated that they have ZCL and will sell it to fund BTCP project. There even was ZCL donation pool where mined ZCL went directly to developers. Even I participated in the donation pool mining and was happy to get BTCP in return instead of ZCL.

I will not convince you otherwise, because you are part of this scam and doubt that they will answer, it is your right to doubt. More precisely, you would not want them to answer for all of this, since you are also part of this scam. Write what you want, but I will find you here and write you after all this, let's see what you answer. Time will tell.

I also want to remind you that some investors are still hoping that the new project will compensate them for the damage and have nothing to do. But you (with your rhett) and I know that the damage will not be reimbursed on the new project, that's when things will be even worse.

Rhett goes to jail, i think, will at least make investors understand that authorities still preside over crypto. His modus is brighter than daylight robbery.
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Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that very perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

You really don't understand? Do you know how fraud is regulated? Read the law who and how to be recognized as fraud. Playing on investor confidence is also considered a fraud and it does not exempt them from criminal liability. There are not 1 or 2 investors, there are a lot of people who are involved in this. Here is an even more important detail, as Rhett and his team (with the exception of some) behind the scenes have done some business, earning a profit before the crash. We have some proof of this. Despite the cost of time and money, we will do our best what would they answer. Also after our lawsuit, if we win, we will provide some materials to others that everyone could demand justice.

Laws are different in each country. Where I live cryptocurrencies cannot be compared to normal instruments. If I lose money, I cannot reduce it in taxation. If I gain money from cryptocurrencies it will be taxed as normal income, not investment income. Even this supports the fact, that cryptos are not real investment instruments. At least not in my country. There are some stock exchanges that provide trackers which are tied to BTC or ETH and if you buy these and earn money, then it will be investment income.

I doubt that losing money in ZCL will get Rhett or any ZCL team member convicted by any court of law in any country. You lost money purely because of your own stupidity.
Besides what comes to Rhett and ZCL team earning money, it was clearly stated that they have ZCL and will sell it to fund BTCP project. There even was ZCL donation pool where mined ZCL went directly to developers. Even I participated in the donation pool mining and was happy to get BTCP in return instead of ZCL.

I will not convince you otherwise, because you are part of this scam and doubt that they will answer, it is your right to doubt. More precisely, you would not want them to answer for all of this, since you are also part of this scam. Write what you want, but I will find you here and write you after all this, let's see what you answer. Time will tell.

I also want to remind you that some investors are still hoping that the new project will compensate them for the damage and have nothing to do. But you (with your rhett) and I know that the damage will not be reimbursed on the new project, that's when things will be even worse.
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