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Quote from: Haze The Hobo on March 06, 2018, 01:59:50 AM

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that very perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

You really don't understand? Do you know how fraud is regulated? Read the law who and how to be recognized as fraud. Playing on investor confidence is also considered a fraud and it does not exempt them from criminal liability. There are not 1 or 2 investors, there are a lot of people who are involved in this. Here is an even more important detail, as Rhett and his team (with the exception of some) behind the scenes have done some business, earning a profit before the crash. We have some proof of this. Despite the cost of time and money, we will do our best what would they answer. Also after our lawsuit, if we win, we will provide some materials to others that everyone could demand justice.

Laws are different in each country. Where I live cryptocurrencies cannot be compared to normal instruments. If I lose money, I cannot reduce it in taxation. If I gain money from cryptocurrencies it will be taxed as normal income, not investment income. Even this supports the fact, that cryptos are not real investment instruments. At least not in my country. There are some stock exchanges that provide trackers which are tied to BTC or ETH and if you buy these and earn money, then it will be investment income.

I doubt that losing money in ZCL will get Rhett or any ZCL team member convicted by any court of law in any country. You lost money purely because of your own stupidity.
Besides what comes to Rhett and ZCL team earning money, it was clearly stated that they have ZCL and will sell it to fund BTCP project. There even was ZCL donation pool where mined ZCL went directly to developers. Even I participated in the donation pool mining and was happy to get BTCP in return instead of ZCL.

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Quote from: Haze The Hobo on March 06, 2018, 03:34:41 AM

Quote from: Haze The Hobo on March 06, 2018, 01:59:50 AM

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that very perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

You really don't understand? Do you know how fraud is regulated? Read the law who and how to be recognized as fraud. Playing on investor confidence is also considered a fraud and it does not exempt them from criminal liability. There are not 1 or 2 investors, there are a lot of people who are involved in this. Here is an even more important detail, as Rhett and his team (with the exception of some) behind the scenes have done some business, earning a profit before the crash. We have some proof of this. Despite the cost of time and money, we will do our best what would they answer. Also after our lawsuit, if we win, we will provide some materials to others that everyone could demand justice.

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Few days ago my opinion was it may stabilize somewhere more up than current price seeing so much buying at peak prices. I was wrong and misread the situation. Now I will say this downtrend will not stop until it sees the price from where it stated. In existence of BTCP it really doesn't justify its needs anymore as well. Again all these actions are for short term but long run what shows us has to come yet.

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Quote from: Haze The Hobo on March 06, 2018, 03:34:41 AM

Quote from: Haze The Hobo on March 06, 2018, 01:59:50 AM

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that very perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

True, I also saw some people compare it to Bitconeeeeeeccccctt!! Which is ridiculous.. Always do your research..

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Quote from: Haze The Hobo on March 06, 2018, 01:59:50 AM

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

I am not affiliated to ZCL or Rhett in any manner. I just find it ridiculous that people are crying here about losing money. You haven't been deceived in any way and there is nothing you can sue anybody for. Before investing always do some research on the matter you are about to invest in. If you don't know what you are investing in or don't understand the risks, it's better not to invest. If you just blindly pour money into random projects and hope you'll be a millionaire in the coming months, well you deserve to lose your money.

If you don't even care what happens to your money before the sht hits the fan, why do you cry afterwards? There were clear signs that ZCL price will drop massively after huge dumping made by people who are in it for the new coin called BTCP. If you cannot read these signs that were perfectly clear, you shouldn't invest at all, especially not into cryptos which are very volatile market. Better to keep your money in the bank and invest in some "safe" funds or stocks that you find safe.

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The only people that have a right to complain are the ones who didn't get their bitcoin private coins when they had them parked in their wallets.. I do think that there should have been ample time for coin buyers to learn what exchanges we're going to carry the coin after the fork. The general vagueness about information could be construed as a form of fraud if the team doesn't come forward with more info soon.

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Ouch!

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Quote from: Haze The Hobo on March 06, 2018, 01:59:50 AM

Quote from: Emilrrr on March 06, 2018, 01:45:18 AM

Quote from: oldbit on March 05, 2018, 10:01:08 PM

Quote from: Johnny00 on March 05, 2018, 09:40:17 PM

Quote from: ZClassic on March 05, 2018, 11:02:34 PM

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled. Grin

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

Any coin with rhett creighton on board should be ignored. That idiot is a walking disaster and scammer. Look at all his launched coin, nothing serious, no future and baiting investors knowing he is not committed to full development. I really am in favor of incarcirating him so his modus will come to an end. This has got to stop. Jail. Let him be the example to all these scammers.

Let the scam developers/creators know that there is a responsibility behind their creation and they cannot just walk away without facing the consequences. That way we can clean the cryptos of guys like this idiot rhett.

It's time for the regulators to put crypto in its proper place and scammers behind bars. Set rhett creighton as an example to wipe that scammer smile off his scammer face.

Hello, I fully support you. I can only say that we, some of the guys, are already collecting materials for a lawsuit. I think they can not easily spend our money.

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

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Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

We do support you, however could you provide more info about yourselves? I hope this is not an attempt to trick the community.

Haze The Hobo

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Quote from: Emilrrr on March 06, 2018, 01:45:18 AM

Quote from: oldbit on March 05, 2018, 10:01:08 PM

Quote from: Johnny00 on March 05, 2018, 09:40:17 PM

Quote from: oldbit on March 05, 2018, 10:01:08 PM

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled. Grin

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

Any coin with rhett creighton on board should be ignored. That idiot is a walking disaster and scammer. Look at all his launched coin, nothing serious, no future and baiting investors knowing he is not committed to full development. I really am in favor of incarcirating him so his modus will come to an end. This has got to stop. Jail. Let him be the example to all these scammers.

Let the scam developers/creators know that there is a responsibility behind their creation and they cannot just walk away without facing the consequences. That way we can clean the cryptos of guys like this idiot rhett.

It's time for the regulators to put crypto in its proper place and scammers behind bars. Set rhett creighton as an example to wipe that scammer smile off his scammer face.

Hello, I fully support you. I can only say that we, some of the guys, are already collecting materials for a lawsuit. I think they can not easily spend our money.

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

Emilrrr

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Quote from: Johnny00 on March 05, 2018, 09:40:17 PM

Quote from: ZClassic on March 05, 2018, 11:02:34 PM

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled. Grin

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

Any coin with rhett creighton on board should be ignored. That idiot is a walking disaster and scammer. Look at all his launched coin, nothing serious, no future and baiting investors knowing he is not committed to full development. I really am in favor of incarcirating him so his modus will come to an end. This has got to stop. Jail. Let him be the example to all these scammers.

Let the scam developers/creators know that there is a responsibility behind their creation and they cannot just walk away without facing the consequences. That way we can clean the cryptos of guys like this idiot rhett.

It's time for the regulators to put crypto in its proper place and scammers behind bars. Set rhett creighton as an example to wipe that scammer smile off his scammer face.

Hello, I fully support you. I can only say that we, some of the guys, are already collecting materials for a lawsuit. I think they can not easily spend our money.

TheHas

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Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

So turns out my question about future (and non-existent) plans for zclassic was right - there currently isn't a development team, but looks like some developers are willing to take over the project.

Any developer who is willing to takeover a coin that does not include a mining reward for developers or other benefits should be looked on favourably by the community!

But in answer to your question, I don't think there are any active discussions regarding the formation of a new team.

ZClassic

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Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

oldbit

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Quote from: Johnny00 on March 05, 2018, 09:40:17 PM