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Topic: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 216. (Read 663312 times)

hero member
Activity: 882
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I started a massive fud times ago as i usually do on several coins. i was wrong, zcoin still rocks, but all sad stories about gary and hack remain
jr. member
Activity: 106
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1000 coins should be enough , I think. Not too much , and not too less...
I was thinking about 170 XZC, not 1,000 : 1000 XZC is too much and too expansive (4,5 btc).
1,000 is the number of the nodes.

Id be happy with 500 or 250 XZC per MN at current price.
legendary
Activity: 1049
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legendary
Activity: 1260
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1000 coins should be enough , I think. Not too much , and not too less...
I was thinking about 170 XZC, not 1,000 : 1000 XZC is too much and too expansive (4,5 btc).
1,000 is the number of the nodes.
sr. member
Activity: 401
Merit: 257
Zcoin 's total value is still small.And Many people are looking forward to the Znodes.So just go to buy all what you can!

How many coins does one znode need?  I want to know this and will buy more zcoins for one znode. Thank you
We don't know at this time, The dev team will decide this amount.

My opinion :
There is less than 1.7 million XZC.
1% of this is 17,000 XZC (100 nodes have all the coins).
0.1% of this is 1,700 XZC (1,000 nodes have all the coins).
...
If you want 1,000 nodes for 10% of the avaible coins (good example, but it is still an example), each node will have 170 XZC.
Each XZC is at 450,000 sats, total 0.765 btc (finally my example is very good : not to high, not too low).

Yes, buy all ZCoins that you can :-).

Yes, Thank you for your thought. I think it's about 1,000xzc enough to do znode well but it's depending to Dev's decision.
legendary
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quarkchain.io
1000 coins should be enough , I think. Not too much , and not too less...
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1046
does the network need so much service nodes..
I don't know : less seems to me very few for the network, no ?
legendary
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quarkchain.io
does the network need so much service nodes..
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1046
Zcoin 's total value is still small.And Many people are looking forward to the Znodes.So just go to buy all what you can!

How many coins does one znode need?  I want to know this and will buy more zcoins for one znode. Thank you
We don't know at this time, The dev team will decide this amount.

My opinion :
There is less than 1.7 million XZC.
1% of this is 17,000 XZC (100 nodes have all the coins).
0.1% of this is 1,700 XZC (1,000 nodes have all the coins).
...
If you want 1,000 nodes for 10% of the avaible coins (good example, but it is still an example), each node will have 170 XZC.
Each XZC is at 450,000 sats, total 0.765 btc (finally my example is very good : not to high, not too low).

Yes, buy all ZCoins that you can :-).
sr. member
Activity: 401
Merit: 257
Zcoin 's total value is still small.And Many people are looking forward to the Znodes.So just go to buy all what you can!

How many coins does one znode need?  I want to know this and will buy more zcoins for one znode. Thank you
hero member
Activity: 585
Merit: 500
Zcoin 's total value is still small.And Many people are looking forward to the Znodes.So just go to buy all what you can!
hero member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 512
@Zcoinofficial i am having problems downloading the chain, it stops at block 670, 24 weeks remaining. Wallet 0.8.7.7 download via your official website...

I tried deleting all the files and everything!

Please advice

You must wait for 3 -5 days for sync and sometimes you must restart your wallet then it's fine. My wallet is still running ok now.
full member
Activity: 154
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@Zcoinofficial i am having problems downloading the chain, it stops at block 670, 24 weeks remaining. Wallet 0.8.7.7 download via your official website...

I tried deleting all the files and everything!

Please advice
sr. member
Activity: 1004
Merit: 268
Firo (FIRO)

Share my experience,wtf!!!!!!!!!!

1. I am a newbie ,it was my first time to mine Yesterday

2. https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/Pool-Mining-Guide
cpuminer-opt (for CPUs) ---https://github.com/zcoinofficial/cpuminer-xzc
Download--https://github.com/ocminer/cpuminer-xzc/releases
oops!!! 404,Page not found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3.I am a chinese, I try to search the software in baidu.com,again and again ,i downloaded winzcoinminer.zip from
https://mega.nz/#!G9olFLAD!5R3w1t4JJ_WCpDOYoerPWABjFbqm_qvXYX3KlOTvGyc
God bless!

4.After installation complete,I start mining from xzc.suprnova.cc ,it always reported error "not accept"

5.2hours later,I found [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.0]

Mining Pools
•MiningPoolHub
•Zpool
•Suprnova
•Pool.mn
•Maxminers

here,https://zcoin.miningpoolhub.com/

God bless ,its so easy to start mining.......

RECENT CREDITS
Last 24 Hours   0.18735613
Date   Credit, Credit for Auto Exchange
2017-03-21 (UTC)   0.04061193
2017-03-20 (UTC)   0.14674420
2017-03-19 (UTC)   0.00000000
2017-03-18 (UTC)   0.00000000

[I started  7 PC for a night]

6.Finally, I want to say that Zcoin's bug is too much,and very unfriendly to newbie.If there is a new version or new features, I am happy to test.
@zcoinofficial

7. ;)Tks to fanyi.baidu.com,谢谢百度翻译,哈。

Thanks for your feedback! I have updated the mining guide here:
https://zcoin.io/language/en/guide-on-how-to-mine-zcoin-xzc/
sr. member
Activity: 1004
Merit: 268
Firo (FIRO)
May be I'll repeat my thought from Zcash forum...

If devs are going to create a PoW cryptocurrency, their main task should be to provide the community of miners with source code and binaries of P2Pool adapted to their newly created crypto. Otherwise it looks a bit scammy: the crypto is just created, almost nobody has wallets and mining SW, but just take a look - you can already mine our super-crypto at suprnova! And literally nowhere else. So come and mine it! Faster!..

But devs often doesn't care about it. So as a result we have a centralization, we have stolen blocks, 50% underpaying... So does it mean that devs are agree that miners will have such a negative experience? Looks so...

Perhaps you missed out on some of the things we did in the past. We are indeed big fans of P2Pool but at the moment, we are only in a transition algorithm that is due to be phased out pretty soon. (https://zcoin.io/language/en/zcoin-transition-algo-lyra2z-specs-finalized/)

We had ocminer from Suprnova to release his pool code for the original Lyra2 which he did. You can view the Github here: https://github.com/ocminer/node-multi-hashing-xzc
A sizeable bounty was paid to him. This was however not updated to the temporary transition algorithm for lyra2z yet.

MiningPoolHub (http://zcoin.miningpoolhub.com/) and ZPool (http://zpool.ca/site/mining) under Lyra2z are both big mining pools that support mining Zcoin with the latest algorithm so there are 3 big quality mining pools that support Zcoin's current algorithm Lyra2z. We work closely with them and provide support where needed. Suprnova's predicted earnings are not accurate so you have to rely on your own calculators. MPH did do some work on getting accurate earnings predictions on their site.

We also engaged djm34 to develop public binaries for the Lyra2z miner code which we released (most other coins don't give a crap),
https://github.com/djm34/sgminer-msvc2015
https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-msvc2015

P2Pool is of course something we are looking at but we're only considering developing it once we move to our MTP algorithm.
http://zcoin.io/language/en/what-is-mtp-merkle-tree-proof-and-why-it-is-important-to-zcoin/
It doesn't make sense to spend resources in developing too much for the transition algorithm Lyra2z when the MTP release on testnet is a few weeks away. We foresee this will be the final PoW mechanism that will be used and then we can dedicate our resources to developing for it.

Again, djm34 has been engaged to come up with the publicly released binaries of the miners.

Remember, right now we're quite a lean team. Right now, we're not like Zcash's army of devs and millions of dollars to spend on multiple code audits so our current focus is
a) Finishing MTP and rolling it out
b) Fixing wallet experience
c) Working on Znodes
d) Code audit

Once a) and b) tasks have been finished especially a) we can definitely look into getting P2Pool code out. Heck, we have been playing around with the idea that all Znodes should even host P2Pool (but nothing finalized yet).



hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
May be I'll repeat my thought from Zcash forum...

If devs are going to create a PoW cryptocurrency, their main task should be to provide the community of miners with source code and binaries of P2Pool adapted to their newly created crypto. Otherwise it looks a bit scammy: the crypto is just created, almost nobody has wallets and mining SW, but just take a look - you can already mine our super-crypto at suprnova! And literally nowhere else. So come and mine it! Faster!..

But devs often doesn't care about it. So as a result we have a centralization, we have stolen blocks, 50% underpaying... So does it mean that devs are agree that miners will have such a negative experience? Looks so...

also fix solo mining, will help as well Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1076
A humble Siberian miner
May be I'll repeat my thought from Zcash forum...

If devs are going to create a PoW cryptocurrency, their main task should be to provide the community of miners with source code and binaries of P2Pool adapted to their newly created crypto. Otherwise it looks a bit scammy: the crypto is just created, almost nobody has wallets and mining SW, but just take a look - you can already mine our super-crypto at suprnova! And literally nowhere else. So come and mine it! Faster!..

But devs often doesn't care about it. So as a result we have a centralization, we have stolen blocks, 50% underpaying... So does it mean that devs are agree that miners will have such a negative experience? Looks so...
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1046
Mining is difficult for a newbie and XZC is probably not the easier coin for beginning mining (because luck is very variable and there is a big latence beetween hashrate and difficulty).
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
Why on xzc.suprnova.ccl statisctic not correct?
From xzc.suprnova.cc:
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)   20 minutes 15 seconds
Blocks found Last 24 Hours 33
Count the number of blocks per day:
24hours / 20 minutes 15 seconds = (24 *60) / 20.25 = 71.11 Blocks
71 not equal 33
Again.. The statistics are not correct, please use whattomine and if you don't like the pool, you can choose any other pool, I've explained it several times already
EDIT: Oh and your calculation example there would imply that the pool would find EVERY block, but only 40% of the nethash is on the pool so 33 blocks in 24h is perfectly fine Wink
EDIT2: And looking at your post history it looks like that account was specially made for trolling me/suprnova ... Thanks for the effort, I feel flattened.
No, i not trolling you. I want to understand why a xzc.suprnova.cc only pays 50%.
Last 4 hour somebody on your pools stole 3 blocks: 25546, 25550, 25576
Usally for finding Block need tens of millions Shares.
Block 25576 Actual Shares 6
Block 25550 Actual Shares 22
Block 25546 Actual Shares 26
http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/0/0/9/mainGIF_6100575_25518009.gif
The probability of such events tends to zero. But xzc.suprnova.cc it happened three times in the last 3 hours.
That is absolutely incredible - all of the balls in these blocks belong to one account.
Pool Workers: 863 (xzc.suprnova.cc)
But Block 25576 got one worker 'anonymous' all 100% shares
But Block 25550 got one worker 'mintallica' all 100% shares
But Block 25546 got one worker 'anonymous' all 100% shares
http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/9/6/7/1GIF_4053478_25517967.gif
http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/9/7/5/2GIF_4094875_25517975.gif
http://i12.pixs.ru/storage/9/8/1/3GIF_3302225_25517981.gif
All 3 Block got one worker of the 863 workers!!!
IT's Impossible
ALL DATA FROM POOL xzc.suprnova.cc
SOMEONE STOLE THESE BLOCKS. IF YOU PROTECT A THIEF MEANS YOU ARE A THIEF.

Share my experience,wtf!!!!!!!!!!

1. I am a newbie ,it was my first time to mine Yesterday

2. https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/Pool-Mining-Guide
cpuminer-opt (for CPUs) ---https://github.com/zcoinofficial/cpuminer-xzc
Download--https://github.com/ocminer/cpuminer-xzc/releases
oops!!! 404,Page not found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3.I am a chinese, I try to search the software in baidu.com,again and again ,i downloaded winzcoinminer.zip from
https://mega.nz/#!G9olFLAD!5R3w1t4JJ_WCpDOYoerPWABjFbqm_qvXYX3KlOTvGyc
God bless!

4.After installation complete,I start mining from xzc.suprnova.cc ,it always reported error "not accept"

5.2hours later,I found [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.0]

Mining Pools
•MiningPoolHub
•Zpool
•Suprnova
•Pool.mn
•Maxminers

here,https://zcoin.miningpoolhub.com/

God bless ,its so easy to start mining.......

RECENT CREDITS
Last 24 Hours   0.18735613
Date   Credit, Credit for Auto Exchange
2017-03-21 (UTC)   0.04061193
2017-03-20 (UTC)   0.14674420
2017-03-19 (UTC)   0.00000000
2017-03-18 (UTC)   0.00000000

[I started  7 PC for a night]

6.Finally, I want to say that Zcoin's bug is too much,and very unfriendly to newbie.If there is a new version or new features, I am happy to test.
@zcoinofficial

7. ;)Tks to fanyi.baidu.com,谢谢百度翻译,哈。
hero member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 512
We're lucky to have the amount of coins we have Wink

it's really good now. I realize that the amount of mining zcoins is decreasing and the diff is quite high. The profit from mining this coin is not attractive so buying and holding for long time will be a good choice at this time.
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