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Topic: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 66. (Read 663229 times)

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hero member
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DMD,XZC
when change algo to MTP?
legendary
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I see that those are the main Block finders :
aHBqmMiMzcHpYd9HSsGWnoLnA5GZ8Rn5KJ(F2Pool)
a69iYfxDwwuCnYdVKqscGSaLS2xfu6hDh5
aGbz8dk7XMs8ViqzTpJivVfZP7t5UmiQPG

What I don't understand is how F2pool finds most of the time 8~10 blocks in a raw!,  there is some serious block distributions problem(lyra2z bug or?).

P.S: I asked before if F2pool pays the Extra luck they get or miners only get what they should based on their hash-rate? there is no stat on F2pool and 4 me as a miner is hard to determine.

Edit: Another "Lucky" day with only 52% of the net hash-See 4 yourself:



146 GH/s out of total 246GH/s = 59% of hash on f2pool right now

https://insight.zcoin.io/blocks-date/2018-05-26
may 26 - blocks 88871 to 89028 = 157 blocks on that date (yesterday)
87 out of 157 found by f2pool which is 55% of all blocks found yesterday.

https://insight.zcoin.io/blocks-date/2018-05-25
May 25 - 89 blocks out of 146 found by f2pool, or 60% of all blocks that day.

Seems fine to me and corresponds with pools hashrate. I dont know how f2pool finds 8-10 blocks in a row, but they have majority of hashrate so nothing strange.

f2pool is PPS so you should get payed on shares submitted, you dont care how many blocks pool finds. Even if pools finds no blocks you get payed per shares submitted, hence the high fee 2.5%.  Also if pool is extremely lucky you won't get payed more - they keep it to themself.

It sucks f2pool doesn't have any statistics.

It is always good to spread hash around. It is not good for any one pool or organization to mine the majority of the blocks. If you are mining this coin think about moving to another pool to spread the hash power around.
newbie
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I see that those are the main Block finders :
aHBqmMiMzcHpYd9HSsGWnoLnA5GZ8Rn5KJ(F2Pool)
a69iYfxDwwuCnYdVKqscGSaLS2xfu6hDh5
aGbz8dk7XMs8ViqzTpJivVfZP7t5UmiQPG

What I don't understand is how F2pool finds most of the time 8~10 blocks in a raw!,  there is some serious block distributions problem(lyra2z bug or?).

P.S: I asked before if F2pool pays the Extra luck they get or miners only get what they should based on their hash-rate? there is no stat on F2pool and 4 me as a miner is hard to determine.

Edit: Another "Lucky" day with only 52% of the net hash-See 4 yourself:

https://s7.postimg.cc/7ddejlr97/F2pool51.jpg

146 GH/s out of total 246GH/s = 59% of hash on f2pool right now

https://insight.zcoin.io/blocks-date/2018-05-26
may 26 - blocks 88871 to 89028 = 157 blocks on that date (yesterday)
87 out of 157 found by f2pool which is 55% of all blocks found yesterday.

https://insight.zcoin.io/blocks-date/2018-05-25
May 25 - 89 blocks out of 146 found by f2pool, or 60% of all blocks that day.

Seems fine to me and corresponds with pools hashrate. I dont know how f2pool finds 8-10 blocks in a row, but they have majority of hashrate so nothing strange.

f2pool is PPS so you should get payed on shares submitted, you dont care how many blocks pool finds. Even if pools finds no blocks you get payed per shares submitted, hence the high fee 2.5%.  Also if pool is extremely lucky you won't get payed more - they keep it to themself.

It sucks f2pool doesn't have any statistics.
newbie
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Edit: Another "Lucky" day with only 52% of the net hash-See 4 yourself:

https://s7.postimg.cc/7ddejlr97/F2pool51.jpg
Maybe statistics in a different numerical space apply here?  Tongue
And seriously, if something that is totally out of the bell curve, it can mean that someone/something is cheating.  Embarrassed
jr. member
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I see that those are the main Block finders :
aHBqmMiMzcHpYd9HSsGWnoLnA5GZ8Rn5KJ(F2Pool)
a69iYfxDwwuCnYdVKqscGSaLS2xfu6hDh5
aGbz8dk7XMs8ViqzTpJivVfZP7t5UmiQPG

What I don't understand is how F2pool finds most of the time 8~10 blocks in a raw!,  there is some serious block distributions problem(lyra2z bug or?).

P.S: I asked before if F2pool pays the Extra luck they get or miners only get what they should based on their hash-rate? there is no stat on F2pool and 4 me as a miner is hard to determine.

Edit: Another "Lucky" day with only 52% of the net hash-See 4 yourself:

sr. member
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For me, all of this are pointing thath someone is manipulaiting of net-hashrate Sad
And doasn't metter who or what (pool/miner).
Significant is that miners are loosing trust to pools and Zcoin and no one is doing/saying anything.
Ok, lets devs and pool owners wil mining XZC themself.
Died of mining on Suprnova, it will die on MPH and "decentralised" coin will be mined on the only right one pool. Huh

I agree. Maybe a big farm
newbie
Activity: 41
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For me, all of this are pointing thath someone is manipulaiting of net-hashrate Sad
And doasn't metter who or what (pool/miner).
Significant is that miners are loosing trust to pools and Zcoin and no one is doing/saying anything.
Ok, lets devs and pool owners wil mining XZC themself.
Died of mining on Suprnova, it will die on MPH and "decentralised" coin will be mined on the only right one pool. Huh
newbie
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Isnt that F2pool mining most of the blocks? It is kinda wierd considering the hashrate vs MPH. Maybe MPH hashrate is bugged afterall and just numbers.
jr. member
Activity: 157
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Silence.... :-(,

Look here - this is from now, No wonder all Zcoin pools being Unlucky :-(.
https://s7.postimg.cc/3k604uaij/f2poo.jpg
Edit: they got block  88954 too...
newbie
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Merit: 0

any comment from zcoin devs?

Max
Is it not strange? No one significant wants to say anything about  unnormal XZC situations.
In the past, MPH was dominating in mining XZC and had over 50% of nethashrate but blocks was distribuating proportionaly.
Now, diferent pool is domnating but since a few weeks blocks are not distribuating proportionaly. Someone say "luck". I say that in MPH should be naming un-luck.
newbie
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MPH had very bad luck lattly while F2pool had extremely great luck:
https://insight.zcoin.io/blocks

And now we see that MPH posted this:
Quote
- Several coin network were rolled back by 51% attack these days. Pool increased minimum confirmation num for some coins. You may need to wait longer to withdraw mined coins than before.

the block confirmation now is " 120 confirms.".

What do you think, how F2pool got so lucky with ~130Ghs?
I asked about this on zcoin thread but no 1 seemed to care :-(.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.6720

from : https://blockwolf.com/what-is-a-51-attack
Quote
an attacker with majority power can:
Reverse transactions that he sends while he’s in control. This has the potential to double-spend transactions that previously had already been seen in the block chain.
(The attacker could spend a coin, then create a new fork in which those coins were never spent, allowing the attacker to spend the coins again).
Prevent some or all transactions from gaining any confirmations
Prevent some or all other miners from mining any valid blocks

on F2pool zcoin page:
Quote
F2Pool have encountered a bug of Zcoin, and created an side chain unexpectedly.
We have roll back mined blocks on our side chain. Daily payment is postponed until recalucation is done.
You may notice a decrease in balance because difficulty of side chain is lower than main chain. Sorry for the inconvenience.


Please read this post from Ryzen2700x !!!
I just putting it here...
This is why all blocks goes to f2pool,
any comment from zcoin devs?

Max
jr. member
Activity: 109
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This is how I lost 1000 ZCoin while trying to setup a masternode:

https://www.reddit.com/r/zcoin/comments/8le26v/lost_1000_zcoin_got_scammed_when_trying_to_setup/?utm_content=full_comments&utm_medium=message&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage

Any help is really appreciated. I am trying to focus on future and setup a masternode hopefully in near future.

...well in case you will get the 1000 Zcoin back, message me and we can setup the masternode for you.
Or for anyone else who like to have Zcoin masternode in very secure country.
You will get 100% profit from the masternode. We don't need money from it.

We have our own bulletproof hosting. We don't use third parties.
Everything is under our own control. And we like to have Zcoin masternode for our exchange.
But unfortunately developers are not interested and that's why right now we only buy Zcoins and we don't sell it yet.

Sorry but your offer looks very dubious. He should get help from an admin at one of their official channels to setup the Masternode.

He was stupid to loose that money. Nothing bad about that. I loosed much more money in my life but my philosophy is money are just fun.
yes I heard about our site and what we do it is very dubious. Because it's too good to be true.
In some other thread I loose my patience and send everybody to GFY.
But I calm now. People are different.
We are different. Believe or not it's your problem.
We have happy customers. If there one unhappy REAL our customer speak now Smiley

full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 129
This is how I lost 1000 ZCoin while trying to setup a masternode:

https://www.reddit.com/r/zcoin/comments/8le26v/lost_1000_zcoin_got_scammed_when_trying_to_setup/?utm_content=full_comments&utm_medium=message&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage

Any help is really appreciated. I am trying to focus on future and setup a masternode hopefully in near future.

...well in case you will get the 1000 Zcoin back, message me and we can setup the masternode for you.
Or for anyone else who like to have Zcoin masternode in very secure country.
You will get 100% profit from the masternode. We don't need money from it.

We have our own bulletproof hosting. We don't use third parties.
Everything is under our own control. And we like to have Zcoin masternode for our exchange.
But unfortunately developers are not interested and that's why right now we only buy Zcoins and we don't sell it yet.

Sorry but your offer looks very dubious. He should get help from an admin at one of their official channels to setup the Masternode.
jr. member
Activity: 109
Merit: 2
This is how I lost 1000 ZCoin while trying to setup a masternode:

https://www.reddit.com/r/zcoin/comments/8le26v/lost_1000_zcoin_got_scammed_when_trying_to_setup/?utm_content=full_comments&utm_medium=message&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage

Any help is really appreciated. I am trying to focus on future and setup a masternode hopefully in near future.

...well in case you will get the 1000 Zcoin back, message me and we can setup the masternode for you.
Or for anyone else who like to have Zcoin masternode in very secure country.
You will get 100% profit from the masternode. We don't need money from it.

We have our own bulletproof hosting. We don't use third parties.
Everything is under our own control. And we like to have Zcoin masternode for our exchange.
But unfortunately developers are not interested and that's why right now we only buy Zcoins and we don't sell it yet.


jr. member
Activity: 109
Merit: 2
Hello. I see that the project is actively developing, and the community is also growing. However, you are not afraid of news that rugulators are negative about anonymous crypto-currencies? Already happened several major delists of such coins as DASH, ZEC, XMR. Is it possible to get to XZC?

Well just hope the major exchanges will delist privacy coins like Zcoin, Monero, etc... This will be only good news.

Because I asking myself who are this people who like or need to use privacy coins but they have no problems to send their personal data, ID, address, Real Name to that major exchanges to buy privacy coins. This is just schizophrenic, if you like or need privacy coins then don't use exchanges that log everything you do and asking from you who you really are. That doesn't make sense. The sooner these state controlled exchanges will stop provide privacy coins that's better for all of us because the prices will skyrocket.

But I afraid they will not do that because for them this is the only way how to control, search, look for the people who are using privacy coins.
sr. member
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And we go again.
Hello. I see that the project is actively developing, and the community is also growing. However, you are not afraid of news that rugulators are negative about anonymous crypto-currencies? Already happened several major delists of such coins as DASH, ZEC, XMR. Is it possible to get to XZC?
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
This is how I lost 1000 ZCoin while trying to setup a masternode:

https://www.reddit.com/r/zcoin/comments/8le26v/lost_1000_zcoin_got_scammed_when_trying_to_setup/?utm_content=full_comments&utm_medium=message&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage

Any help is really appreciated. I am trying to focus on future and setup a masternode hopefully in near future.
member
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Every coin is a new zero coin, and this is also a technological innovation. Zcoin is great. The password world will have its place.
newbie
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