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Topic: [ANN] Zettelkasten - ZTTL, New Algo: BurgerHash V6 🍔, CPU-SOLO-mineable - page 3. (Read 51133 times)

newbie
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Zettelkasten's POW is called "burgerhash" and it softforks automatically 4 times a day, in order to increase algorithmic complexity of POW.
As far as I can see this is a unique feature no other altcoin has implemented.
burgerhash what ever you called !!
i'm just watching but !!! i will back if this project have a good exchanges..
member
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Zettelkasten Dev
can someone with a mac test whether this mac version of the new UI works?

I have successfully compiled it on a macos High Sierra, but I wonder how downward compatible it is.

Release:

https://github.com/zettel-kasten/zettelkasten/releases/tag/v0.9.21.1

Direct link to mac version:

https://github.com/zettel-kasten/zettelkasten/releases/download/v0.9.21.1/zettelkasten-qt-mac64.dmg

thanks
member
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Zettelkasten Dev
Happy New Year to all and we are waiting for the developer to further develop the project this year, I hope we will be able to create a separate utility for ZTTL mining, and the updated wallet will have useful functions for users.

Happy new year to you to.

An external tool for ZTTL mining is certainly on the to-do-list.
And lots of other cool things.

Stay tuned, and healthy of course
legendary
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Happy New Year to all and we are waiting for the developer to further develop the project this year, I hope we will be able to create a separate utility for ZTTL mining, and the updated wallet will have useful functions for users.
member
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Zettelkasten Dev
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removed testnet functionality from mainnet version.
From now on, testnet exists only in the form of the separate burgerbot testnet chain/app.
See there for more details.

https://github.com/zettel-kasten/zettelkasten/commit/da63802da924ab619e05471cfbafcfcabfdfb3e9
member
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i just wanted to pop up and say.. its nice seeing an interesting algo.. on a fair launch coin .. that didnt die after the first 3 months.. still alive and kicking! there is  some sass going on in the forums. LOVE IT....   i played with this some last year.. and just started up a new install of the wallet today and no issues.. Smiley kudos to ZETTEL. big big KUDOS to you!
this project plays with hashrate is nothing new  , old trick worked just for kids !!!
 created by some own miners try manipulate hashare with hardfork.. Tongue


Zettelkasten's POW is called "burgerhash" and it softforks automatically 4 times a day, in order to increase algorithmic complexity of POW.
As far as I can see this is a unique feature no other altcoin has implemented.
member
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Zettelkasten Dev
i just wanted to pop up and say.. its nice seeing an interesting algo.. on a fair launch coin .. that didnt die after the first 3 months.. still alive and kicking! there is  some sass going on in the forums. LOVE IT....   i played with this some last year.. and just started up a new install of the wallet today and no issues.. Smiley kudos to ZETTEL. big big KUDOS to you!

Thank you very much. Stay tuned for many more updates

pandemic hit me hard, but I have much more time now, and hopefully can get back to normal now
member
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testnet (burgerbot) will now have unique UI flavor to better differentiate between mainnet and testnet


newbie
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i just wanted to pop up and say.. its nice seeing an interesting algo.. on a fair launch coin .. that didnt die after the first 3 months.. still alive and kicking! there is  some sass going on in the forums. LOVE IT....   i played with this some last year.. and just started up a new install of the wallet today and no issues.. Smiley kudos to ZETTEL. big big KUDOS to you!
this project plays with hashrate is nothing new  , old trick worked just for kids !!!
 created by some own miners try manipulate hashare with hardfork.. Tongue
newbie
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i just wanted to pop up and say.. its nice seeing an interesting algo.. on a fair launch coin .. that didnt die after the first 3 months.. still alive and kicking! there is  some sass going on in the forums. LOVE IT....   i played with this some last year.. and just started up a new install of the wallet today and no issues.. Smiley kudos to ZETTEL. big big KUDOS to you!
newbie
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this project is still active or die ?

Still active of course!

really ?
no activity on github ?
private source ?
member
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Zettelkasten Dev
this project is still active or die ?

Still active of course!
newbie
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this project is still active or die ?
legendary
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@everyone: Please also join discord to further discuss and share ideas/thoughts: https://discord.com/invite/Ef7x2qA

Twitter: https://twitter.com/zettelkastendev

Hello, in July you said that the community is waiting for a lot of news at the end of August, now it's already mid-October, you can tell us how you are working with a wallet-free program for mining ZTTL whether a new version of the wallet will be released for x64 versions of windows, how is your idea of introducing a messenger to the zettelkasten wallet progressing. I would like to hear from you some news about the project as a whole.
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...but i just thought i would share my findings.

J

Thank you.

@everyone: Please also join discord to further discuss and share ideas/thoughts: https://discord.com/invite/Ef7x2qA

Twitter: https://twitter.com/zettelkastendev
sr. member
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Hi guys

Okay, just finished 24 hours+ of testing across 3 PC's, all running 12 threads using the latest Zettelkasten pre-compiled binaries.
All connected directly to same 24 port switch.

Specs
PC 1 - Ryzen 1800x (@3.6 ghz), 2 x 8GB 3200mhz, ssd, Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
PC 2 - Ryzen  1700 (@3.0 ghz), 2 x 4GB 2933mhz, hdd, LinuxLite 4.8
PC 3 - Ryzen 1800x (@3.6 ghz), 2 x 8GB 3200mhz, ssd, Win 10 (2004 fully updated)(No AV running)

So,
PC1, average 435 kh/s - 28 blocks mined, ~191 coins (Ubuntu 16)
PC2, average 402 kh/s - 21 blocks mined, ~142 coins (LinuxLite 4.Cool
PC3, average 429 kh/s - 16 blocks mined, ~108 coins (Win 10)

I have to say, the Win 10 results are exactly as I expected, obviously depends on the nethash, the LinuxLite results made me smile, on the 1700, i have never mined so many blocks (note lower ram speed, and capacity), as for the Ubuntu 16 results, well astounding !!!

I have tried the linux binaries, on Ubuntu 18.04,and 20.04, Linux Mint 18.2, 19.1, 19.2, 19.3 and 20, also Linux Lite 4.8, but not yet 5.0
I can honestly say, i never thought of going for an older distro, but 16.04 seems to be the best for me.
I have zero idea, why my Win 10 results are so poor.

If i get time, i'll try LinuxLite 5, and re-test Ubuntu 20 and Mint 20, i think i might even try Win 7 (perhaps its just Win 10 that is so crap)
If anyone knows how to compile on Linux, i'd love to try it...

I've also looked at my power usage.
PC1 - 234 watts full pc (1060 6GB) @ 18p kh/h = £1.01 + 1/5 of daily standing charge (65p/5=13p) = £1.14
PC2 - 160 watts full pc (1030 2GB) @ 18p kh/h = £0.69 + 1/5 of daily standing charge (65p/5=13p) = £0.82
PC3 - 224 watts full pc (1060 6GB) @ 18p kh/h = £0.97 + 1/5 of daily standing charge (65p/5=13p) = £1.10

So, my max mined was 191 coins, according to safetrade i could get 0.00000011 BTC each, so 0.00002101 BTC a day, which is approx £0.18
BUT, it would cost £1.14 to mine them, so a daily loss of £0.96

Or i could simply buy 191 coins @ 0.00000018 BTC each = 0.00003438 BTC or £0.30 which would save me £1.14 - £0.30 = £0.84 over mining the coins, or roughly a 3rd cheaper to buy rather than mine.

I appreciate, these are only my rough figures, with UK costs, on this particular 24hour period, and are unlikely to be close to anyone elses figures, but i just thought i would share my findings.

J
sr. member
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The 8 year veteran using the exact cpu you accused me of not using

That's not what happened though.

You came here whining that you only make "much less than 100 ZTTL a day"
so naturally I assumed that you use weak hardware, which is why I said "don't use raspberry"

You then acted all insulted that I don't know your specific CPU model off the top of my head:

LOL...you should no better than to make poor assumptions, we have spoken many times before.

I don't even know you.
Are you active on discord? Under what name?

I vaguely remember you from some posts you did here in the past,
and I think you sent me one or the other weird private message through this forum,
that I didn't even bother to answer.

Other than that, who are you, and why are you suddenly acting so self-important?

You weird behavior started yesterday right after I reprimanded some other guy (an obvious troll account).
Why? What was the matter there?

You also still haven't told me what i should be making with 400-500kh/s.

You know exactly how much you are supposed to make statistically.
The rest is luck and/or self-inflicted



Now you are not being genuine.

I was not "whining" about only making 100 coins, i was stating a fact...it wasn't even a criticism, but clearly you took i as such.

I don't believe i have ever PM you. ( i could be wrong )

I believe my 1st msg on here was back in early 2018, and even back then i was concerned that i seemed to be struggling to mine blocks with the windows wallet.
If you could be bothered to read my posts, you will find that not only have i made very supportive comments about this coin, Funny thing is on July 31st you used my burger to zettel transactions in discord to promote your burger/zettel swap (my 2 lots of 5000). Which i was quite happy to see.

However i have always said that i struggle with the windows wallet.

Various people have made suggestions, and thou my hashrate seems reasonable, the blocks mined is not. I have posted my specs in most of those posts.

I have tried Mint 19, and posted my results a long time ago..same issue...good hash, very few blocks.
I even recounted, how i tried mining for 1 day on 2 machines, and didn't mine 1 block, but when i restarted 1 wallet, i started to get a few blocks, the other machine still hadn't received a block in 48 hours.
So i have always raised concerns over the windows wallet....

Having said that, during our spat yesterday, i downloaded your latest linux wallet, onto Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS, and started it running 14 hours ago...it has averaged 437 khs and mined me 17 blocks (115 coins). This way more than i have ever achieved before....and looks like it may even be 200 coins within 24 hours.

Whilst that is awesome, 40 minutes later, i also put the latest on linuxlite 4.8, and in 13 hours, at 400 kh/s i have mined only 10 blocks (68 coins)...seems a little low blockwise, but no biggy, however i also set up a clean win 10pc with the latest wallet, and in the same 13 hours, 432 kh/s i get 6 blocks (40 coins)...

So it would appear there is a massive difference not in the speed of mining, but in the number of blocks produced....which is something i have consistently said about the windows wallet for 2 years....

Having said that, although you think i was just "whinging", i was actually saying that using my figures that it was pointless mining, and much better to buy...well for the windows wallet, for me, that is completely true, and BUT since the linux wallet on Ubuntu16 seems to be finding many more blocks, then i will go redo the math.

I am not, and have never been a linux guy, i can type "./autogen.sh, ./configure, and make -j 8", or" qmake, make -j 8", but that is about my limit on linux, so when your source fails to compile which, for me it has on Ubu 16,18,19,20, Mint 18,19, LinuxLite 4.8 and 5  then i can only try the binaries, which although hashrate wise seem very similar, seem in my case to produce very different numbers of blocks mined...

I have to say, having been quite supportive of this coin, and you, in many posts, i find it disheartening that you are so quick to dispute my numbers....and very strange that when asked for expected yields, you simply reply, that i should know them, but fail to actually give any indication...

Anyway, enough.
I will post my 24 hour results

edit, i did send you 1 PM. It was regarding old alt coins, and asking if you knew anything about setting up a block explorer, you never bothered to reply.
member
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The 8 year veteran using the exact cpu you accused me of not using

That's not what happened though.

You came here whining that you only make "much less than 100 ZTTL a day"
so naturally I assumed that you use weak hardware, which is why I said "don't use raspberry"

You then acted all insulted that I don't know your specific CPU model off the top of my head:

LOL...you should no better than to make poor assumptions, we have spoken many times before.

I don't even know you.
Are you active on discord? Under what name?

I vaguely remember you from some posts you did here in the past,
and I think you sent me one or the other weird private message through this forum,
that I didn't even bother to answer.

Other than that, who are you, and why are you suddenly acting so self-important?

Your weird behavior started yesterday right after I reprimanded some other guy (an obvious troll account).
Why? What was the matter there?

You also still haven't told me what i should be making with 400-500kh/s.

You know exactly how much you are supposed to make statistically.
The rest is luck and/or self-inflicted

sr. member
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Doesn't work without registering...nevermind, the pics are in the links

It works without registering, but you have to embed each pic with its own link, not your whole pic collection as one link.

Your hashrate seems reasonable and within what's to be expected for your CPU model.
Now why you only make "much less than 100 ZTTL" with such a PC I don't know.

My Ryzen x1700 make about 480 kH/s

 

You said your 1700 makes only 350 kH/s? Seems a bit slow.

Something must be throttling you or cause large irregularities over the span of time.

I suggest you first of all make sure that you keep at least 20 -30 connections to other peers at all times.
(open port 51339)

Then try mining with the daemon only for a while, in text-mode, it should run even slightly faster then.

Also come to discord and ask others about their mining experience: https://discord.gg/Ef7x2qA

But please ask them nicely, don't approach them prejudiced like this or they might get pissed:

I think the reality, is simple, i think most people mine blindly, forgetting the costs of their PC, and using "borrowed" power (parents, schools, work, rented accomodation) and therefore have no real idea if they are making money or not....

Oh, you must mean like the nice way you approached me...The 8 year veteran using the exact cpu you accused me of not using

"But your calculation does NOT apply to everyone, and that is exactly where an opportunity for some can present itself.

Obviously if you can't even mine 100 ZTTL a day (which is like 14 blocks, or 1 % of all blocks),
it means you have allocated very weak hardware to this project that is capable of mining not more than 200 kH/s.
What is this, a couple of raspberry pi's?

I would say almost everyone who mines ZTTL right now is doing so with AMD Ryzen CPU's.
(Which makes sense because of the SHA extensions those CPU have)

You are the exception."

You also still haven't told me what i should be making with 400-500kh/s.

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