Topic: [ANN] Zettelkasten - ZTTL, New Algo: BurgerHash V6 🍔, CPU-SOLO-mineable - page 4. (Read 51133 times)

It works without registering, but you have to embed each pic with its own link, not your whole pic collection as one link.

Your hashrate seems reasonable and within what's to be expected for your CPU model.
Now why you only make "much less than 100 ZTTL" with such a PC I don't know.

My Ryzen x1700 make about 480 kH/s

 

You said your 1700 makes only 350 kH/s? Seems a bit slow.

Something must be throttling you or cause large irregularities over the span of time.

I suggest you first of all make sure that you keep at least 20 -30 connections to other peers at all times.
(open port 51339)

Then try mining with the daemon only for a while, in text-mode, it should run even slightly faster then.

Also come to discord and ask others about their mining experience: https://discord.gg/Ef7x2qA

But please ask them nicely, don't approach them prejudiced like this or they might get pissed:

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you can post bbcode segment here and the pic will show

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This is R1800x, stock, 16GB ram, SSD. 1060 6GB - Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS

0 threads, 4, 8k, 12, 15 and 16
0, 200kh/s, 388 kh/s, 457 kh/s, 500 kh/s, 510 kh/s

Clean install, debug file deleted, wallet deleted, after sync, so both will be empty

other reasons (next to bad connectivity) why your mining performance may suck:

1) bloated wallet.dat
(a very large amount of tx in your wallet will slow down your node considerably.
I suggest you start a fresh wallet.dat every now and then)

2) not leaving a CPU thread free for the node:
(ZTTL uses an in-wallet-CPU-miner. So the node and the miner are running on the same CPU.
If your mining process uses 100% of all threads, then your node may be struggling to keep up.
Doesn't have to be this way, but it could be an issue on the system you are using.)

3) check your debug.log
Are there unusual disconnects or error reports?

PMSL.
I have been mining over 8 years, and mine over 200 live altcoins, with another 1500 old wallets

Not really sure what you are suggesting with "think you might be doing something wrong", you wallet has a mining tab, with a slider and a start button, not really sure what I could be doing wrong....
I have zero connectivity issues, no idea about orphans your wallet doesnt give all the facts, but i am in the UK, so there may be a latency issue...

Also, going back to the original argument, if its cheaper to buy coins than to mine them, then unless their is a specific benefit to mining over simply buying the coins, then there is absolutely no point in mining.
I usually get the old nugget, well you have to mine to keep the blockchain moving, well that is true, but 1 block a day keeps the blockchain moving

As for increasing the rewards, i think you'll find that it is a popular solution when the cost of mining is so out of kilter with the cost of buying, and has been done with many popular coins....but, het whay do i know

Perhaps, instead of being defensive,  like i say, post some screenshots of hashrates, and some daily rewards.

Just to see if i am "exaggerting", i could be wrong, i am just downloading your latest linux gui wallet, and will see what hashrates i get...

I think the reality, is simple, i think most people mine blindly, forgetting the costs of their PC, and using "borrowed" power (parents, schools, work, rented accomodation) and therefore have no real idea if they are making money or not....

I don't make any assumptions, I don't have to.

Net hashrate has been steadily around 20 MH/s.
If you mine with a combined 800 kH/s (4% of net hashrate) and mine "much less than 100 coins a day per pc",
then I can't help but think you are doing something wrong. (connectivity, orphans, etc)

Or you are exaggerating.

Mining is not for everyone.


lol, I can't believe you would recommend something like that....
changing protocol just because you are not happy with your mining results.

Please, it's really that simple:
the stats are the way they are.
if it doesn't work for you, you'll have to move on.
 

LOL...you should no better than to make poor assumptions, we have spoken many times before.

I am mining with a 1700, and a 1800x....they both get around 350-450khs thats all and that gets me much less than 100 coins a day per pc, always has done, besides,
If you know of anyone mining with an 1800x getting substantially more than 450kh/s then they are not using your windows wallet....
I also tried mining burgerbot, which on the surface seems much better, but due to the extremely poor swap rate, actually works out to be even less profitable....

So,if i am wrong, then fair enuff, but lets see some proof of certain hashrates and the coins they mine per day, cos for me 15t on my 1800x is a complete waste of time.

No problem with your assessment.

Everyone has to make their own calculation whether it's worth it or not.
But your calculation does NOT apply to everyone, and that is exactly where an opportunity for some can present itself.

Obviously if you can't even mine 100 ZTTL a day (which is like 14 blocks, or 1 % of all blocks),
it means you have allocated very weak hardware to this project that is capable of mining not more than 200 kH/s.
What is this, a couple of raspberry pi's?

I would say almost everyone who mines ZTTL right now is doing so with AMD Ryzen CPU's.
(Which makes sense because of the SHA extensions those CPU have)

You are the exception.

If you believe long term in this project, buying it right now is indeed cheaper.
Mining with efficient hardware is the second best thing.
But mining with weak hardware is questionable, as your example demonstrates

Hi Zettelkasten,

Whilst i don't agree the coin is dead, i have to say i too am struggling to continue to mine it.
It costs around 5-10x to mine compared to simply buying...lets face it, with a value of 0.00000002 BTC / coin, even if you could mine 1000 coins per day ( i can't even mine 100), you would still only earn 0.00002000 BTC, thats £0.18 in the UK, and would cost around £1.50-£2 to mine....
I think you might need to look at upping the reward, or to be frank, as a mining coin, it is pretty much dead.....as a currency, who knows....
Before everyone moans at me, seriously guys, if anyone is mining with a decent cpu 8 core and above, and is happy making less than 10p a day, with £1-2 a day power costs, then i think you're in the wrong game.
Perhaps, in the first few 1000 blocks, when a new coin comes out, and you take a chance holding for a year or 2, but if its a mature coin (which this is now) at this production rate, only makes sense to buy....

I looked through your posts of today.

You literally went to a dozen coins and told them they are dead or dying.

What are you doing with your life?

Even if you get a better price, this project is dying.
Nobody wants this coin?!!?  So why buy it from miners

yeah, someone doesn't play by economic rules, rather by emotional ones, lol.

BTW, I don't control the twitter account https://twitter.com/zettelcrypto (it's another member of the community, since the pandemic a few guys seem to have disappeared or lost interest, but we'll clean up all the loose ends soon).
But I have started my own zettelkasten-dev related twitter account here: https://twitter.com/zettelkastendev

I will post there regularly. (careful I also post political and general stuff there)

Wow, someone got some cheap coins today (3 sat) & they could have sold them for (15 sat) @ https://www.unnamed.exchange/Exchange?market=ZETTEL_BTC They have to run out of coins to sell sooner than later, it doesn't even cover mining cost to sell that low & if they are trying to lower the sell wall to pick up cheaper coins? It's not working  Don't sell your coins for less than it's worth to mine them, might as well hold them for the future & not sell @ a loss Time to build a buy wall again, so the sell wall doesn't drop from the 30's

P.S. don't forget to update Twitter every once in a while

com join our discord. https://discord.gg/cngMDN

You can also mine testnet coins (BURGER) and trade them for ZTTL 100 : 1

Ask on discord...



More info here : https://www.zetteltalk.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28

Absolutely, most people aren't aware that there will only ever be 30 Million ZTTL ever.
Ever! Even in 100 years.

https://www.unnamed.exchange/Exchange?market=ZETTEL_BTC has been having better buy/sell orders than Safe.Trade, just not as big of a buy wall as Safe.Trade does. So if any ZTTL supporters have some spare BTC to add to the buy wall there, it would really help.

ZTTL are really cheap now, but will not be in the future. See some big plans for the ZTTL on discord & am sure the prices will not be this low for too long, someone is pushing the market down to pick up cheap ZTTL from the looks of it

yes, has been for a while.
People should use this exchange more, sometimes they can get a better price there.

Recommended to keep both exchanges in your eyes for sure

ZETTEL is now listed on unnamed.exchange
https://www.unnamed.exchange/Exchange?market=ZETTEL_BTC

Yes, especially outlining how the actual "knowledge management" is going to look, will be presented within august.