alright, that's fair. I'm glad we're on more of an even footing right now.
let me say that i'll gladly pay for a mumble server for the community lead(s) to keep in touch with CG if that helps. it would have to be something that's agreed upon obviously, but i think that having a lifeline to what's going on is crucial, even if that only extends to the community lead(s) to then disseminate to the masses.
also i'll definitely throw my money where my mouth is supporting the business end of things, i'll donate 1000 ZS (paid about $100 for it) to a foundation who will pay for both development, and for community outreach/public relations. I am a man of my word, and would love the opportunity to ask for donation addresses once i see some forward movement. I think we're all waiting on CG, and until then there's not much to discuss.
I think we all agree that if CG is getting frustrated by all this perceived negativity, so much so that he's being more reluctant to be apart of the daily community, then we need to surround him with whoever he feels is trustworthy, and is a good resource for making community posts etc. like i said, i'll pay for a mumble server and give whoever CG wants to keep close exclusive access. I won't even go on it myself. But after a quick brainstorm i think that's a possible step forward.
also, let me make it clear that i'm in now way trying to position myself as a community lead, i'm an asshole, i'm aware of this. I just want to help fix this.
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you do it little justice when brought to your attention, your reaction is to not address it, ignore it, and then say "screw it, i'm done"
i havent had contact with CryptoGir since he posted in this topic.
So im sorry but there is not any info that i know that you guys dont.
All i tried to do is keep things calm untill CG arrives.
Im not hiding or ignoring questions but like i said: i also do not know where he is or whats going on.
But i DO know its not CryptoGir to just run off. Atleast he would let me know whats going on or why or whatever.
And since he hasnt contacted me or anyone else yet all i can assume is that something happened or something came up which keeps him from contacting us.
Biomech, thank you for your words. It's nice to hear a reasoned reply where you've been able to divorce yourself from the emotion surrounding the events of the last week, we should all take notice and follow your example.
That being said, i've never denied my style as being a smartass, although i should watch when i come across condescending. What can i say, my buttons are easily pushed when all the responses i get only goad me further.... especially when i'm trying to help my own damned investment here, a side effect of which is help all of yours too.
srs, there's no hard feelings, i don't know you at all, i didn't mean to attack you. that being said, SOMEONE has to stand up and take the brunt of this. we need a press secretary, we need our Ari Fleischer.
yes, i understand about engineer syndrome, but that really doesn't excuse anti-social syndrome. Unfortunately it's just not the way the business world operates. I'm a DJ, and happen to be very skilled, i was a jazz drummer for 13 years, and i scratch, do live remixes, and even live percussion. I always wanted to live in a world where my art would speak for itself, and promoters would just hire me based on that. Unfortunately this is the furthest thing from the truth. You need to talk the talk as well as walk the walk.
I hate bringing up other coins on a thread, but cloakcoin is doing it right, we could learn from their example. They have a dedicated team of devs who live off of coffee and energy drinks and do nothing but code. they aren't allowed out of their cages to interact with the general public, this is a good thing. They have a representative who is in a voip comms channel with them daily, to get a feel for what's going on, and then they interact with the public on BCT and on IRC. it's a low-impact job with high-impact results. The community feels that they're all part of the team, instead of feeling like they're just plebeian.
that's all we're asking for.
That being said, i've never denied my style as being a smartass, although i should watch when i come across condescending. What can i say, my buttons are easily pushed when all the responses i get only goad me further.... especially when i'm trying to help my own damned investment here, a side effect of which is help all of yours too.
srs, there's no hard feelings, i don't know you at all, i didn't mean to attack you. that being said, SOMEONE has to stand up and take the brunt of this. we need a press secretary, we need our Ari Fleischer.
yes, i understand about engineer syndrome, but that really doesn't excuse anti-social syndrome. Unfortunately it's just not the way the business world operates. I'm a DJ, and happen to be very skilled, i was a jazz drummer for 13 years, and i scratch, do live remixes, and even live percussion. I always wanted to live in a world where my art would speak for itself, and promoters would just hire me based on that. Unfortunately this is the furthest thing from the truth. You need to talk the talk as well as walk the walk.
I hate bringing up other coins on a thread, but cloakcoin is doing it right, we could learn from their example. They have a dedicated team of devs who live off of coffee and energy drinks and do nothing but code. they aren't allowed out of their cages to interact with the general public, this is a good thing. They have a representative who is in a voip comms channel with them daily, to get a feel for what's going on, and then they interact with the public on BCT and on IRC. it's a low-impact job with high-impact results. The community feels that they're all part of the team, instead of feeling like they're just plebeian.
that's all we're asking for.
Now we're getting somewhere. I actually suggested something similar to SrsCrypto in a PM. Details are not mine to divulge. He's passing it on to CryptoGir.
But yes, you're dead on. I'm a singer, and I have watched probably two dozen bands disintegrate because artists frequently have zero business sense, nor any talent to develop any. I often see people throw a lot of venom at band managers, but they are a necessary component. I think the same principle applies to a successful coin. Sure, it may be led behind the scenes by the engineers, or it may not, but there needs to be a certain amount of management, either within or without, to keep things moving.
I am going to say that a dump on Mintpal when the coin is first listed is not something I find alarming, IF the other issues are dealt with. I've yet to see a coin hit that particular exchange without a dump. I am only one guy with a lot on his plate, so I may have missed the shining jewel that was different, but if I did, the trend still holds.
If we can all step back for a minute, give the dev's a couple of days of breathing room, and let our coins stake, this can almost certainly be remedied. The coin is sound, and the initial concept of focusing on entertainment related markets makes a lot of sense. That will take some time, but by keeping the investors informed of what they are working on, what they could use assistance on, and somebody to just take some flak will make a world of difference.
I tried to be that guy for Earthcoin, and failed due to too many personal obligations. So I'm going to say here what I said in private. I'm willing to help on an ad-hoc basis, but I cannot be the mouthpiece. I simply don't have time. But somebody needs to do it. And that somebody ought to be paid a salary or a bounty in ZS to keep their focus where it belongs. You'll understand this as a businessman. It's why CEO's often are paid significantly more in company stock than in monetary salary. It puts the onus of making a living squarely on their performance in raising the price of the stock.
FUD is easy, and often accurate. Doing something about it entails significantly more effort and significantly less emotion.
As for being a smartass, I was born that way and consider it a complement. Only dumbasses take offense to being called that
Biomech, thank you for your words. It's nice to hear a reasoned reply where you've been able to divorce yourself from the emotion surrounding the events of the last week, we should all take notice and follow your example.
That being said, i've never denied my style as being a smartass, although i should watch when i come across condescending. What can i say, my buttons are easily pushed when all the responses i get only goad me further.... especially when i'm trying to help my own damned investment here, a side effect of which is help all of yours too.
srs, there's no hard feelings, i don't know you at all, i didn't mean to attack you. that being said, SOMEONE has to stand up and take the brunt of this. we need a press secretary, we need our Ari Fleischer.
yes, i understand about engineer syndrome, but that really doesn't excuse anti-social syndrome. Unfortunately it's just not the way the business world operates. I'm a DJ, and happen to be very skilled, i was a jazz drummer for 13 years, and i scratch, do live remixes, and even live percussion. I always wanted to live in a world where my art would speak for itself, and promoters would just hire me based on that. Unfortunately this is the furthest thing from the truth. You need to talk the talk as well as walk the walk.
I hate bringing up other coins on a thread, but cloakcoin is doing it right, we could learn from their example. They have a dedicated team of devs who live off of coffee and energy drinks and do nothing but code. they aren't allowed out of their cages to interact with the general public, this is a good thing. They have a representative who is in a voip comms channel with them daily, to get a feel for what's going on, and then they interact with the public on BCT and on IRC. it's a low-impact job with high-impact results. The community feels that they're all part of the team, instead of feeling like they're just plebeian.
that's all we're asking for.
That being said, i've never denied my style as being a smartass, although i should watch when i come across condescending. What can i say, my buttons are easily pushed when all the responses i get only goad me further.... especially when i'm trying to help my own damned investment here, a side effect of which is help all of yours too.
srs, there's no hard feelings, i don't know you at all, i didn't mean to attack you. that being said, SOMEONE has to stand up and take the brunt of this. we need a press secretary, we need our Ari Fleischer.
yes, i understand about engineer syndrome, but that really doesn't excuse anti-social syndrome. Unfortunately it's just not the way the business world operates. I'm a DJ, and happen to be very skilled, i was a jazz drummer for 13 years, and i scratch, do live remixes, and even live percussion. I always wanted to live in a world where my art would speak for itself, and promoters would just hire me based on that. Unfortunately this is the furthest thing from the truth. You need to talk the talk as well as walk the walk.
I hate bringing up other coins on a thread, but cloakcoin is doing it right, we could learn from their example. They have a dedicated team of devs who live off of coffee and energy drinks and do nothing but code. they aren't allowed out of their cages to interact with the general public, this is a good thing. They have a representative who is in a voip comms channel with them daily, to get a feel for what's going on, and then they interact with the public on BCT and on IRC. it's a low-impact job with high-impact results. The community feels that they're all part of the team, instead of feeling like they're just plebeian.
that's all we're asking for.
also, shame on the rest of you apologists. the ones of us here with honour have had the balls to call out the slow decline of this coin fair and square. you think that my comments are what's pushing the price down? you're delusional. the fact that my comments are true and reflective of what's actually going on is what's pushing the price down. i'm just documenting it.
if you see someone screwing you, and you sit there and say: "no no no everything ok, everything good, yay yay yay, this coin is the best, don't you all want to buy this coin too?" instead of actually DEALING with the issues, then you're a bitch and you're doing nothing but reinforcing this as a community of desperate bagholders. investors can smell that shit a mile away.
a mile away.
you wanna HELP zimstake? then HELP get this coin back on track, tough love. enough apologizing for squandered opportunities. If the devs don't think that 25,000 community votes are reason enough to engage their community, to take that monumental feat and turn it into good publicity, to show up when they say they're going to show up, to have more than 1 useful post a month... then you're all just defending garbage, and shooting the messengers who have the balls to reveal it to your face.
seriously, 25,000 votes. and this is the thanks we get. one dev might as well have left town, and the other just said "someone's being mean to me, i'm done with this". so the question beckons, when are you going to hand over the coin? 25,000 votes says that we earned it.
and please stop sending me PMs that i'm ruining this coin. get a grip. if one person saying the truth can totally destroy a coin, then is this not a house of cards to begin with? think carefully about that. right now we can be either a community of desperate bagholders, or a community that's united to FIX WHAT'S WRONG HERE. and climb back to the top. i'll leave that choice to you all.
if you see someone screwing you, and you sit there and say: "no no no everything ok, everything good, yay yay yay, this coin is the best, don't you all want to buy this coin too?" instead of actually DEALING with the issues, then you're a bitch and you're doing nothing but reinforcing this as a community of desperate bagholders. investors can smell that shit a mile away.
a mile away.
you wanna HELP zimstake? then HELP get this coin back on track, tough love. enough apologizing for squandered opportunities. If the devs don't think that 25,000 community votes are reason enough to engage their community, to take that monumental feat and turn it into good publicity, to show up when they say they're going to show up, to have more than 1 useful post a month... then you're all just defending garbage, and shooting the messengers who have the balls to reveal it to your face.
seriously, 25,000 votes. and this is the thanks we get. one dev might as well have left town, and the other just said "someone's being mean to me, i'm done with this". so the question beckons, when are you going to hand over the coin? 25,000 votes says that we earned it.
and please stop sending me PMs that i'm ruining this coin. get a grip. if one person saying the truth can totally destroy a coin, then is this not a house of cards to begin with? think carefully about that. right now we can be either a community of desperate bagholders, or a community that's united to FIX WHAT'S WRONG HERE. and climb back to the top. i'll leave that choice to you all.
Because my foci have been elsewhere, I have tried to take the middle line here. So, I called out Srs, now I'm doing the same with you.
You have valid points. You also take offense easily. And yes, again, you've had reason. I'm not taking sides here. I know the dev to some extent from his previous endeavors and from this one. He's a bit flaky about publicity. He is almost certainly working on things behind the scene, and will be surprised and baffled by the reaction to his silence. I call it engineer syndrome, cuz engineers never want to put out a progress report until they have reached certain milestones, where management, or investors in this case, just want to know that something is being done.
SrsCrypto overreacted to some legit and some not so legit criticism. I talked to him privately, and found out he's been without sleep for a ridiculous amount of time. Longer than my aging body can handle. So I'd ask you to cut him a bit of slack over today's episode.
From the purely technical side, this is one of the best pure PoS coins so far. It had like two bumps at the switchover and has worked flawlessly since. That in itself is good PR, and they should run with that, I think, above any "big surprise" or major announcement. Medium staking coin that actually works as advertised. Get in on this while it's cheap... that sort of thing. Sorry, I'm good at the back side of advo, but not the actual wording. I used to be a manager at a pizza joint. I'd write a ten page advertising proposal and hand it to my assistant. He wasn't good at coming up with the shit, but he could distill my ten pages into something simple and two or three lines of it. Worked great. I wish I still had a guy like that.
I think what this coin really needs is not so much for CG to regularly update us but for there to be a PR guy/gal on the dev team that does regular updates without us having to deal with CG's randomness. He's like that. And I really DON'T think there's any malice in it. Meanwhile, SrsCrypto is stuck in the middle and out of his depth.
All of this being said, let's try to move it forward a bit. A couple of days to regroup will not kill the coin. Not regrouping will.
And to those of you who jump Djslick when he's right, you might want to rethink it. Listen when somebody speaks truth. Even if they do it in a smartass or condescending fashion. Which he did not start out that way, he got glib reassurances where there should have been meaningful debate.
How do you know he's gone? How do you know he didn't have a personal issue that took more priority over ZS. Not saying that he shouldn't pop in any say hey I'll be back this day with an update cuz something happened. But I think you aren't giving enough credit for what he has built. It made it this far on limited posts from CG.
Why doesn't someone try and contact him via skype? It's public on his personal page here on BTT... CryptoGir...
Why doesn't someone try and contact him via skype? It's public on his personal page here on BTT... CryptoGir...
also, shame on the rest of you apologists. the ones of us here with honour have had the balls to call out the slow decline of this coin fair and square. you think that my comments are what's pushing the price down? you're delusional. the fact that my comments are true and reflective of what's actually going on is what's pushing the price down. i'm just documenting it.
if you see someone screwing you, and you sit there and say: "no no no everything ok, everything good, yay yay yay, this coin is the best, don't you all want to buy this coin too?" instead of actually DEALING with the issues, then you're a bitch and you're doing nothing but reinforcing this as a community of desperate bagholders. investors can smell that shit a mile away.
a mile away.
you wanna HELP zimstake? then HELP get this coin back on track, tough love. enough apologizing for squandered opportunities. If the devs don't think that 25,000 community votes are reason enough to engage their community, to take that monumental feat and turn it into good publicity, to show up when they say they're going to show up, to have more than 1 useful post a month... then you're all just defending garbage, and shooting the messengers who have the balls to reveal it to your face.
seriously, 25,000 votes. and this is the thanks we get. one dev might as well have left town, and the other just said "someone's being mean to me, i'm done with this". so the question beckons, when are you going to hand over the coin? 25,000 votes says that we earned it.
and please stop sending me PMs that i'm ruining this coin. get a grip. if one person saying the truth can totally destroy a coin, then is this not a house of cards to begin with? think carefully about that. right now we can be either a community of desperate bagholders, or a community that's united to FIX WHAT'S WRONG HERE. and climb back to the top. i'll leave that choice to you all.
if you see someone screwing you, and you sit there and say: "no no no everything ok, everything good, yay yay yay, this coin is the best, don't you all want to buy this coin too?" instead of actually DEALING with the issues, then you're a bitch and you're doing nothing but reinforcing this as a community of desperate bagholders. investors can smell that shit a mile away.
a mile away.
you wanna HELP zimstake? then HELP get this coin back on track, tough love. enough apologizing for squandered opportunities. If the devs don't think that 25,000 community votes are reason enough to engage their community, to take that monumental feat and turn it into good publicity, to show up when they say they're going to show up, to have more than 1 useful post a month... then you're all just defending garbage, and shooting the messengers who have the balls to reveal it to your face.
seriously, 25,000 votes. and this is the thanks we get. one dev might as well have left town, and the other just said "someone's being mean to me, i'm done with this". so the question beckons, when are you going to hand over the coin? 25,000 votes says that we earned it.
and please stop sending me PMs that i'm ruining this coin. get a grip. if one person saying the truth can totally destroy a coin, then is this not a house of cards to begin with? think carefully about that. right now we can be either a community of desperate bagholders, or a community that's united to FIX WHAT'S WRONG HERE. and climb back to the top. i'll leave that choice to you all.
i've still got my 9000zs
and get conversing in the sovereign thread
can you just add me your original logo for sovereign and make it a website perchance sir? good bounty in it for you
SrsCrypto, some free advice, with a bit of background. I guarantee it will be worth the price I'm offering it at, and I think it might be worth more than that.
First, the background. My introduction to CryptoGir was the SHA debacle. He did good on fixing that, up to the point he discovered the hidden premine. He's a bit spotty on communication, as you and I well know. But he's a good sort. I mined ZS during the PoW phase and held my pittance until a couple weeks back. I sold because I needed money, and will be buying back in now that the price is down. My sell had to do with making the best of several bad choices, rather than anything fundamental to the coin or the DEV. Both of us know this coin's history and it's dev.
That being said, a new guy or an investor who does NOT have our background is going to compare this coin with others and see the periods of silence as abandonment. Not because of CG, but because they (and you and I) can easily name off ten coins where the dev going silent was the end of active development. CG isn't like that, and again you and I know that. But not everyone does.
So, here's that free advice. It's difficult. Be civil REGARDLESS of how stupid the post appears to you. That will do more for the coin's image than all the refutation and red ink.
A lot of my background in life is customer service. It's a low paying, ugly, thankless job. Because despite the old adage, the customer is seldom right, often scamming, stupid, and insane. But the customer always wins. Without them, no business.
Tell CG that a weekly update at a scheduled time would do more for this coin than a whole lot of other things.
To the rest of you, name ONE coin that didn't drop the first few days it hit a major exchange in the last six months? Profit taking is going to happen. If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev. Remember, this is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it's one that creates money. Go find ways to make that money good for something besides dumping on an exchange. There is only one person stopping you, and you see them in the mirror.Even if you take it in a direction that the dev's didn't plan, see, or approve of, it will STILL raise the value of the coin. Real world acceptance goes way far.
I dont have anything to add to this. I do want to quote you one more time:
with that being said; im done putting in any effort.
i already have but you ignore my post completely and only reply to the part about comparing coins.
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
SrsCrypto, some free advice, with a bit of background. I guarantee it will be worth the price I'm offering it at, and I think it might be worth more than that.
First, the background. My introduction to CryptoGir was the SHA debacle. He did good on fixing that, up to the point he discovered the hidden premine. He's a bit spotty on communication, as you and I well know. But he's a good sort. I mined ZS during the PoW phase and held my pittance until a couple weeks back. I sold because I needed money, and will be buying back in now that the price is down. My sell had to do with making the best of several bad choices, rather than anything fundamental to the coin or the DEV. Both of us know this coin's history and it's dev.
That being said, a new guy or an investor who does NOT have our background is going to compare this coin with others and see the periods of silence as abandonment. Not because of CG, but because they (and you and I) can easily name off ten coins where the dev going silent was the end of active development. CG isn't like that, and again you and I know that. But not everyone does.
So, here's that free advice. It's difficult. Be civil REGARDLESS of how stupid the post appears to you. That will do more for the coin's image than all the refutation and red ink.
A lot of my background in life is customer service. It's a low paying, ugly, thankless job. Because despite the old adage, the customer is seldom right, often scamming, stupid, and insane. But the customer always wins. Without them, no business.
Tell CG that a weekly update at a scheduled time would do more for this coin than a whole lot of other things.
To the rest of you, name ONE coin that didn't drop the first few days it hit a major exchange in the last six months? Profit taking is going to happen. If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev. Remember, this is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it's one that creates money. Go find ways to make that money good for something besides dumping on an exchange. There is only one person stopping you, and you see them in the mirror.Even if you take it in a direction that the dev's didn't plan, see, or approve of, it will STILL raise the value of the coin. Real world acceptance goes way far.
I dont have anything to add to this. I do want to quote you one more time:
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If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev.
with that being said; im done putting in any effort.
no offense, but when the whole community is saying one thing loud and clear: "what happened to the dev?" he said he'd post an update on monday, and decided that he'd rather just not. on the most important day for this coin so far, he decided that it was more important to do anything else rather than keep your word. this is the IRE and IRK of the community.
you do it little justice when brought to your attention, your reaction is to not address it, ignore it, and then say "screw it, i'm done"
25,000 votes this community gave you, that was a whole lot of respect. if you want to take the infant's path and just cut and run when you can't answer a simple question: "where is cryptogir? why has he flaked?" it's been a month since he's said anything meaningful on here. i'm not debating that some nice features take more than a month to code, test, then implement. but we have zero indication that any of that is going on. and when we ask as much, we're treated like children.
i understand that it's not fair to pin all of this on your srs, but it's time to buck up and take charge. no one else is doing it. and the elephant in the room is still yet to be addressed.
start with that, and you'll not only revitalize the community, but earn a great deal of respect in return. tell us exactly what's going on with this coin, and be honest. you won't win any points by being coy because of fear to do damage. the damage has already been done if you haven't checked the charts lately.
you do it little justice when brought to your attention, your reaction is to not address it, ignore it, and then say "screw it, i'm done"
25,000 votes this community gave you, that was a whole lot of respect. if you want to take the infant's path and just cut and run when you can't answer a simple question: "where is cryptogir? why has he flaked?" it's been a month since he's said anything meaningful on here. i'm not debating that some nice features take more than a month to code, test, then implement. but we have zero indication that any of that is going on. and when we ask as much, we're treated like children.
i understand that it's not fair to pin all of this on your srs, but it's time to buck up and take charge. no one else is doing it. and the elephant in the room is still yet to be addressed.
start with that, and you'll not only revitalize the community, but earn a great deal of respect in return. tell us exactly what's going on with this coin, and be honest. you won't win any points by being coy because of fear to do damage. the damage has already been done if you haven't checked the charts lately.
i already have but you ignore my post completely and only reply to the part about comparing coins.
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
SrsCrypto, some free advice, with a bit of background. I guarantee it will be worth the price I'm offering it at, and I think it might be worth more than that.
First, the background. My introduction to CryptoGir was the SHA debacle. He did good on fixing that, up to the point he discovered the hidden premine. He's a bit spotty on communication, as you and I well know. But he's a good sort. I mined ZS during the PoW phase and held my pittance until a couple weeks back. I sold because I needed money, and will be buying back in now that the price is down. My sell had to do with making the best of several bad choices, rather than anything fundamental to the coin or the DEV. Both of us know this coin's history and it's dev.
That being said, a new guy or an investor who does NOT have our background is going to compare this coin with others and see the periods of silence as abandonment. Not because of CG, but because they (and you and I) can easily name off ten coins where the dev going silent was the end of active development. CG isn't like that, and again you and I know that. But not everyone does.
So, here's that free advice. It's difficult. Be civil REGARDLESS of how stupid the post appears to you. That will do more for the coin's image than all the refutation and red ink.
A lot of my background in life is customer service. It's a low paying, ugly, thankless job. Because despite the old adage, the customer is seldom right, often scamming, stupid, and insane. But the customer always wins. Without them, no business.
Tell CG that a weekly update at a scheduled time would do more for this coin than a whole lot of other things.
To the rest of you, name ONE coin that didn't drop the first few days it hit a major exchange in the last six months? Profit taking is going to happen. If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev. Remember, this is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it's one that creates money. Go find ways to make that money good for something besides dumping on an exchange. There is only one person stopping you, and you see them in the mirror.Even if you take it in a direction that the dev's didn't plan, see, or approve of, it will STILL raise the value of the coin. Real world acceptance goes way far.
I dont have anything to add to this. I do want to quote you one more time:
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If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev.
with that being said; im done putting in any effort.
I hope that's just frustration speaking. The negative voices will always be the loudest. Some of them are trying to spread fud, some are legitmately concerned, some are stupid, and some are mean. But there are probably ten guys like me for every one of them. We hang back and watch, and we probably should say more. I've appreciated and supported your efforts on this coin from the moment you started. The coin needs a cheerleader. Right now, you're it. Well, you and BlueWhackadoo
. It might be a good idea to recruit somebody who's sole purpose is updates. great point. srscrypto Unfortunately you are the face of this project ATM. I hate to say it but if a post is pissing you off you just ignore it. Don't reply to them. They are shooting the whole ZS community in the foot by screaming and yelling the sky is falling... It's Gatta be tough to have all the recent frustration pinned on you, but you have to stay stronger for ZS.
NOT trying to be a dick here...
i already have but you ignore my post completely and only reply to the part about comparing coins.
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
SrsCrypto, some free advice, with a bit of background. I guarantee it will be worth the price I'm offering it at, and I think it might be worth more than that.
First, the background. My introduction to CryptoGir was the SHA debacle. He did good on fixing that, up to the point he discovered the hidden premine. He's a bit spotty on communication, as you and I well know. But he's a good sort. I mined ZS during the PoW phase and held my pittance until a couple weeks back. I sold because I needed money, and will be buying back in now that the price is down. My sell had to do with making the best of several bad choices, rather than anything fundamental to the coin or the DEV. Both of us know this coin's history and it's dev.
That being said, a new guy or an investor who does NOT have our background is going to compare this coin with others and see the periods of silence as abandonment. Not because of CG, but because they (and you and I) can easily name off ten coins where the dev going silent was the end of active development. CG isn't like that, and again you and I know that. But not everyone does.
So, here's that free advice. It's difficult. Be civil REGARDLESS of how stupid the post appears to you. That will do more for the coin's image than all the refutation and red ink.
A lot of my background in life is customer service. It's a low paying, ugly, thankless job. Because despite the old adage, the customer is seldom right, often scamming, stupid, and insane. But the customer always wins. Without them, no business.
Tell CG that a weekly update at a scheduled time would do more for this coin than a whole lot of other things.
To the rest of you, name ONE coin that didn't drop the first few days it hit a major exchange in the last six months? Profit taking is going to happen. If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev. Remember, this is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it's one that creates money. Go find ways to make that money good for something besides dumping on an exchange. There is only one person stopping you, and you see them in the mirror.Even if you take it in a direction that the dev's didn't plan, see, or approve of, it will STILL raise the value of the coin. Real world acceptance goes way far.
I dont have anything to add to this. I do want to quote you one more time:
Quote
If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev.
with that being said; im done putting in any effort.
I hope that's just frustration speaking. The negative voices will always be the loudest. Some of them are trying to spread fud, some are legitmately concerned, some are stupid, and some are mean. But there are probably ten guys like me for every one of them. We hang back and watch, and we probably should say more. I've appreciated and supported your efforts on this coin from the moment you started. The coin needs a cheerleader. Right now, you're it. Well, you and BlueWhackadoo
. It might be a good idea to recruit somebody who's sole purpose is updates. i already have but you ignore my post completely and only reply to the part about comparing coins.
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
SrsCrypto, some free advice, with a bit of background. I guarantee it will be worth the price I'm offering it at, and I think it might be worth more than that.
First, the background. My introduction to CryptoGir was the SHA debacle. He did good on fixing that, up to the point he discovered the hidden premine. He's a bit spotty on communication, as you and I well know. But he's a good sort. I mined ZS during the PoW phase and held my pittance until a couple weeks back. I sold because I needed money, and will be buying back in now that the price is down. My sell had to do with making the best of several bad choices, rather than anything fundamental to the coin or the DEV. Both of us know this coin's history and it's dev.
That being said, a new guy or an investor who does NOT have our background is going to compare this coin with others and see the periods of silence as abandonment. Not because of CG, but because they (and you and I) can easily name off ten coins where the dev going silent was the end of active development. CG isn't like that, and again you and I know that. But not everyone does.
So, here's that free advice. It's difficult. Be civil REGARDLESS of how stupid the post appears to you. That will do more for the coin's image than all the refutation and red ink.
A lot of my background in life is customer service. It's a low paying, ugly, thankless job. Because despite the old adage, the customer is seldom right, often scamming, stupid, and insane. But the customer always wins. Without them, no business.
Tell CG that a weekly update at a scheduled time would do more for this coin than a whole lot of other things.
To the rest of you, name ONE coin that didn't drop the first few days it hit a major exchange in the last six months? Profit taking is going to happen. If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev. Remember, this is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it's one that creates money. Go find ways to make that money good for something besides dumping on an exchange. There is only one person stopping you, and you see them in the mirror.Even if you take it in a direction that the dev's didn't plan, see, or approve of, it will STILL raise the value of the coin. Real world acceptance goes way far.
I dont have anything to add to this. I do want to quote you one more time:
Quote
If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev.
with that being said; im done putting in any effort.
i already have but you ignore my post completely and only reply to the part about comparing coins.
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
Anyway 'your opinion' that its because the dev's lack of clarification is wrong in my opinion, because it has been like this since day one.
Its not as if CG suddenly got inactive, he's always been busy behind the scenes.
So thats why you statement and arguement are false that its due to his absence.
Its due to people expecting a rise, and a chain reaction dump after that.
Twist it however you want..
SrsCrypto, some free advice, with a bit of background. I guarantee it will be worth the price I'm offering it at, and I think it might be worth more than that.
First, the background. My introduction to CryptoGir was the SHA debacle. He did good on fixing that, up to the point he discovered the hidden premine. He's a bit spotty on communication, as you and I well know. But he's a good sort. I mined ZS during the PoW phase and held my pittance until a couple weeks back. I sold because I needed money, and will be buying back in now that the price is down. My sell had to do with making the best of several bad choices, rather than anything fundamental to the coin or the DEV. Both of us know this coin's history and it's dev.
That being said, a new guy or an investor who does NOT have our background is going to compare this coin with others and see the periods of silence as abandonment. Not because of CG, but because they (and you and I) can easily name off ten coins where the dev going silent was the end of active development. CG isn't like that, and again you and I know that. But not everyone does.
So, here's that free advice. It's difficult. Be civil REGARDLESS of how stupid the post appears to you. That will do more for the coin's image than all the refutation and red ink.
A lot of my background in life is customer service. It's a low paying, ugly, thankless job. Because despite the old adage, the customer is seldom right, often scamming, stupid, and insane. But the customer always wins. Without them, no business.
Tell CG that a weekly update at a scheduled time would do more for this coin than a whole lot of other things.
To the rest of you, name ONE coin that didn't drop the first few days it hit a major exchange in the last six months? Profit taking is going to happen. If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev. Remember, this is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it's one that creates money. Go find ways to make that money good for something besides dumping on an exchange. There is only one person stopping you, and you see them in the mirror. Even if you take it in a direction that the dev's didn't plan, see, or approve of, it will STILL raise the value of the coin. Real world acceptance goes way far.
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We've just released PocketCrypto, a new Cryptocurrency Management App that will allow you to easily manage your Zimstake investment. Hope you guys will check out the app and Good Luck to All!
Pro Version (super awesome!) (no ads) (earlier updates) (no coin limit) (just because you love us
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Wow..you know what you are right..i wish you all good luck.
That is good, you can always run and say explaining is not that simple, you are here from start and affiliated with CG, can you tell us what is going on with CG, is he ever coming back?
Wow..you know what you are right..i wish you all good luck.
Developing a coin or maintaining it is not as simple and easy as you all make it look..most ideas you guys bring up are ideas you should have come up with in januari....and im not trying to disrespect or insult anyone...
But do you guys seriously think me and CG havent thought of any of the ideas u mention?
Anyway..we have continously asked and pushed people to be active as a community, and do their part...
Only a few of the early holders have seriously put effort in doing something for the coin..and we..or i..am very very thankfull for that.
Its really hard maintaining a coin with 2 people, when only one of them is a programmer.
go on..discuss..ill shutup
But do you guys seriously think me and CG havent thought of any of the ideas u mention?
Anyway..we have continously asked and pushed people to be active as a community, and do their part...
Only a few of the early holders have seriously put effort in doing something for the coin..and we..or i..am very very thankfull for that.
Its really hard maintaining a coin with 2 people, when only one of them is a programmer.
go on..discuss..ill shutup
This will again bring the question of where CG is, inactive for for days, do you have any news from him, i now he has personal life but again he would said if he had some issues before going and yes i know its not easy to maintain a coin but still if someone can't do it any longer its at least fair to ask for help if others would continue his procejt or at least help in any way
Your assumption that everyone here is an idiot except yourself is rather derogatory.
No disrespect intended to the multipool author but it was hardly a working multipool. It ran in beta for 48 hours of which it was down for 24. I had 2 rigs on the pool for that period out of the 6 rigs total.
If all you are going to do is rudely shoot down any attempt to start positive discussion then this is going to go nowhere very very fucking fast. I and many others have been here since day 1 and have done what we could to motivate and help the best we could.
You say that you and CG discussed all these ideas. The more time goes by the more I realize that this entire community is being treated like mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed shit.
It is about time you start actually talking to the community and not throw your toys out of the cot every time you make a post.
Developing a coin or maintaining it is not as simple and easy as you all make it look..most ideas you guys bring up are ideas you should have come up with in januari....and im not trying to disrespect or insult anyone...
But do you guys seriously think me and CG havent thought of any of the ideas u mention?
Anyway..we have continously asked and pushed people to be active as a community, and do their part...
Only a few of the early holders have seriously put effort in doing something for the coin..and we..or i..am very very thankfull for that.
Its really hard maintaining a coin with 2 people, when only one of them is a programmer.
go on..discuss..ill shutup
But do you guys seriously think me and CG havent thought of any of the ideas u mention?
Anyway..we have continously asked and pushed people to be active as a community, and do their part...
Only a few of the early holders have seriously put effort in doing something for the coin..and we..or i..am very very thankfull for that.
Its really hard maintaining a coin with 2 people, when only one of them is a programmer.
go on..discuss..ill shutup
This will again bring the question of where CG is, inactive for for days, do you have any news from him, i now he has personal life but again he would said if he had some issues before going and yes i know its not easy to maintain a coin but still if someone can't do it any longer its at least fair to ask for help if others would continue his procejt or at least help in any way
Developing a coin or maintaining it is not as simple and easy as you all make it look..most ideas you guys bring up are ideas you should have come up with in januari....and im not trying to disrespect or insult anyone...
But do you guys seriously think me and CG havent thought of any of the ideas u mention?
Anyway..we have continously asked and pushed people to be active as a community, and do their part...
Only a few of the early holders have seriously put effort in doing something for the coin..and we..or i..am very very thankfull for that.
Its really hard maintaining a coin with 2 people, when only one of them is a programmer.
go on..discuss..ill shutup
But do you guys seriously think me and CG havent thought of any of the ideas u mention?
Anyway..we have continously asked and pushed people to be active as a community, and do their part...
Only a few of the early holders have seriously put effort in doing something for the coin..and we..or i..am very very thankfull for that.
Its really hard maintaining a coin with 2 people, when only one of them is a programmer.
go on..discuss..ill shutup
This will again bring the question of where CG is, inactive for for days, do you have any news from him, i now he has personal life but again he would said if he had some issues before going and yes i know its not easy to maintain a coin but still if someone can't do it any longer its at least fair to ask for help if others would continue his procejt or at least help in any way
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