I dont understand why so much people are telling it's the end because we can't withdraw or deposit btc because you can deposit or withdraw bcc. So if someone really need his money just send the bcc to novaexchange and sell it there or if you want to do a loan just buy bcc on novaexchange and send it to your bitconnect account ? If you have btc on your wallet you also can buy bcc on the exchange and sell it on nova to have your btc...
Yeah they announced the problem with non-working or very slow BTC transactions. They have disabled deposits too so aren't trying anything dodgy. BCC transactions seem fine.
That Craig guy put up a new video with more info. Apparently some company being formed with the promoters. All I know, is that bitconnect are making more money than their liabilities to investors and anyone else can see that if they do their own calculations. So why do people think it's a Ponzi if it's been solvent for all this time?
The only worrying thing is I noticed on that Trevor guy's channel video that someone linked to last (when he sold his BCC coins right at the bottom of the market- he would have got $6K+ in staking interest a month for a long time) someone in the chat boasting about withdrawing his 13BTC into 156BTC (basically close to becoming a millionaire in stolen funds - well half a million isn't far off). Some 'bob' guy I think his name was asked if anyone else got rich from the glitch on in the chat and that his account is suspended but 'fuck it I'm keeping it'. So if many people stole these funds, then bitconnect are the ones having to cover this. So it's a bit ironic in my view but I can't see them being in much trouble after all the profits they've made over and above what they owe people. Bitconnect also have a million BCC that are kept out of circulation from the total supply so can probably cover these sorts of things (I think this reserve is mentioned in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxSeU0lfAww ).
Instead of people just calling it a scam can someone point out where I am wrong about them not being able to cover all the money people are earning without even going into any reserves as they are actually profiting from the loan system just as much or more than the investors are. I just want someone to point out where I'm wrong as I'm willing to change my mind but other people don't seem to want to explain to me where I am wrong.
I think people stating they know for a fact it's a scam and they've definitely run off with the money right now are just as wrong as people who say they know for a fact it's not a scam and there doesn't even need to be a bot (as Craig Grant and several in this thread have done several times).
You're right that regardless of whether it was intended to be a scam or not, their system has sustained itself so far (and with profit) just because the payouts are in dollars and the BCC coins have risen by more than what they've had to pay out. So they have undoubtedly made a large profit so far regardless of what's 'underneath the hood' so to speak. So for anyone saying there's no way they've made a profit, well that's just provably not true (so far!), it's simple maths.
I do also think though that people constantly singing it's praises do need to think critically about a few things and at least take into consideration that they might be wrong.
For one thing what happens if the price fails to increase at a rate greater than the liabilities owed? Or god forbid actually falls? If there is genuinely a trading bot then this could still be fine, but if there isn't then this would be quite a huge problem. So I don't respect the opinion of anyone saying it doesn't matter at all if there's a bot or not because firstly that would mean the company is lying to everyone which obviously isn't a good sign, but secondly that means the system is only profitable while the price of BCC is going up. And not just up but significantly and consistently up.
You've also got to be honest about the ways in which it at least
looks like a scam, regardless of whether it is or not.
- The multi level marketing doesn't
look good, as many scams use this to get people promoting it. Many legitimate businesses have affiliate programs too of course though so it's not a smoking gun by itself.
- There is no information on the trading bot whatsoever
- There is no information on who is actually behind this company or indeed where the company is located. The company listed on the website is registered in the UK, but they have missed their first filing and the address given is not a bitconnect address. This could be for some obscure tax reason, but it doesn't
look good
- With this recent exploit, instead of someone from the company posting information themselves first and putting their own name to it, they waited for a random youtube promoter to do a video and posted that on their website instead. This wreaks of not wanting to give their own details at all costs, but more than happy to put someone else as the face of the company.
- They said at their recent investor meeting/trip that they manipulate the price on their own exchange which is where the vast majority of the volume is. Again not in itself making it a scam as people manipulate the price of many coins for various reasons. But again it doesn't
look good.
- Some of their largest promoters (such as Craig Grant) are most certainly dodgy and openly admit they think that bitconnect is lying about how they make their money. They obviously can't control everyone though so again, by itself it's not proof.
There are several other things but the point is that some of the people hating on BCC are literally just hating on it for the sake of it, but a lot of them have asked genuine questions and not liked the answers that have come back, so you can't be surprised at the skepticism.
It's also worth pointing out that given how the crypto market has gone since bitconnect began, ANY business plan they actually have underneath (including to run off with the money) would still have made money, made payouts and still be going today. So it's simply not accurate when people say 'well it hasn't gone down yet so that proves it's legit'. It's certainly possible it's legit, but the fact they haven't crashed yet does not prove that. If they had taken all the BTC/BCC people invest and just held it in an account and done absolutely nothing with it, they could still have paid everyone out so far because of the rise in both BTC and BCC.
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TLDR: I don't think anyone is disputing they've made profits so far and have made payouts so far, but given the price action of both BCC and BTC that actually does not prove it is a legitimate business at all.