I don't have to say anything to this, just read my past post and think about it for a while.
Is this your way of saying "I have no more arguments left"?
Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 1146. (Read 2170889 times)
August 25, 2014, 10:05:54 AM
Is this your way of saying "I have no more arguments left"?
August 25, 2014, 10:04:02 AM
getting this when build on cygwin, any clu?
shabal.s:57: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `s'
shabal.s:57: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `s'
I've never worked with cygwin. shabal.s is Assembler code, maybe you need to compile it separately?
August 25, 2014, 09:59:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Java
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_security
https://www.google.com/search?q=Java+insecurity
The Java platform provides a security architecture[30] which is designed to allow the user to run untrusted bytecode in a "sandboxed" manner to protect against malicious or poorly written software. This "sandboxing" feature is intended to protect the user by restricting access to certain platform features and APIs which could be exploited by malware, such as accessing the local filesystem, running arbitrary commands, or accessing communication networks.
If there is a 0-day exploit in the sandboxing code again then all your source codes are fucked.
Centralization in a codeing language is the most retarded idea i've ever seen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_security
https://www.google.com/search?q=Java+insecurity
The Java platform provides a security architecture[30] which is designed to allow the user to run untrusted bytecode in a "sandboxed" manner to protect against malicious or poorly written software. This "sandboxing" feature is intended to protect the user by restricting access to certain platform features and APIs which could be exploited by malware, such as accessing the local filesystem, running arbitrary commands, or accessing communication networks.
If there is a 0-day exploit in the sandboxing code again then all your source codes are fucked.
Centralization in a codeing language is the most retarded idea i've ever seen.
I was talking about relevant issues.
Burstcoin does not run any untrusted bytecode. And where's the advantage of C/C++ there? They offer no/less protection when running untrusted code
Memory requirement? Sure, java needs more memory. Speed? Java is slower most of the time. But for security I don't see any issues here.
August 25, 2014, 09:58:37 AM
I like to announce:
The Plot-generator rewritten in C!
It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.
You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?
How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)
Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:
You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
The Plot-generator rewritten in C!
It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.
You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?
How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)
Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:
Code:
./plot
You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
getting this when build on cygwin, any clu?
shabal.s:57: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `s'
August 25, 2014, 09:51:26 AM
The language Java has design faults. Not your coded C plot generator.
Sure! What Java design faults - that are relevant to burst - are you talking about?
no im talking about after its completely plotted, before i actually found a block i tried moving the drive and when i did i have to copy a fresh copy of the wallet over the existing one. After this then the wallet would pull up but like i said this was before i found a block. What i am scared of is that if i copy over the wallet now it will erase the blocks i have found.
I have a dedicated miner here at work that runs 24/7 and was gonna move the drive to it. I did the plotting on the computer at home because it has a LOT faster CPU in it and got the 2tb done probably days before the computer here would've. So i would like to move the drive to there but am having issues with moving the drive to other computers because the wallet will not open unless i copy over it.
August 25, 2014, 09:45:55 AM
I don't know Cloakcoin wasn't a scam ?
Go and do you own research... Quote
Kids/Scamers like you can keep arguing with me i like these nonsense talk as you just said nothing in both of your posts.
Kids/Scammers like you, can keep arguing with me. But I don't like these foolish talk, as you just continuously posting nonsence in all of your posts 
August 25, 2014, 09:44:23 AM
no im talking about after its completely plotted, before i actually found a block i tried moving the drive and when i did i have to copy a fresh copy of the wallet over the existing one. After this then the wallet would pull up but like i said this was before i found a block. What i am scared of is that if i copy over the wallet now it will erase the blocks i have found.
August 25, 2014, 09:42:14 AM
why there is still no source for this?
There is, for everything. Right in the OP.
August 25, 2014, 09:38:57 AM
The language Java has design faults. Not your coded C plot generator.
Sure! What Java design faults - that are relevant to burst - are you talking about?
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Is it possible to take the 2tb Ext drive i have to another PC to let it mine after it plots without affecting the current blocks i have mined?
Sure. Just choose a start nonce thats above all your other plots. They don't need to be in order - just make sure they don't overlap.
August 25, 2014, 09:37:36 AM
Is it possible to take the 2tb Ext drive i have to another PC to let it mine after it plots without affecting the current blocks i have mined?
August 25, 2014, 09:37:09 AM
At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.
- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days.
So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price.
This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily?
You can say the same about every minable coin
- no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun.. But nothing new here. There is even no data storage for users:
The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.
- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start...
Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things.
no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added
Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits.
Putting something on the coin after minting/mining, can be appended any time. But the wasted space usage to mine, just really is wasteful in my opinion and probably a couple IT people would agree in that regard. Regardless, I fully support this coin and hope the best for it.
Hopefully the dev will get on the business side of things via a PR/business team. I've sent emails and tweets to Coindesk and http://cryptomining-blog.com/, hopefully they consider doing an article for Burst. Also, sent a tweet to http://coinmarketcap.com/ a couple of days ago.
August 25, 2014, 09:34:40 AM
why there is still no source for this?
There is, for everything. Right in the OP.
August 25, 2014, 09:34:14 AM
At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.
- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days.
So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price.
This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily?
You can say the same about every minable coin
- no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun.. But nothing new here. There is even no data storage for users:
The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.
- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start...
Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things.
no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added
Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits.
Putting something on the coin after minting/mining, can be appended any time. But the wasted space usage to mine, just really is wasteful in my opinion and probably a couple IT people would agree in that regard. Regardless, I fully support this coin and hope the best for it.
August 25, 2014, 09:33:35 AM
why there is still no source for this?
August 25, 2014, 09:32:54 AM
Yep, thats why i wait for a coin like burst in C/C++ Java is not made for currency's and is likely to be exploited because of design errors.
What "design errors" are you talking about? Proof your point!
This plot generator is just optimized for speed. The client itself does not need to be.
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windows version?
Read the post!
August 25, 2014, 09:29:03 AM
windows version?
I like to announce:
The Plot-generator rewritten in C!
It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.
You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?
How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)
Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:
You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
The Plot-generator rewritten in C!
It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.
You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?
How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)
Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:
Code:
./plot
You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
August 25, 2014, 09:26:39 AM
Like i said at the start, without development this coin will die thats for sure. But we still have the idea and maybe source code so we might get a restart again.
What? What do you have personally? Idea, coding skills. Or both of them?
Will you be so kind to introduce them to us?
What are you going to restart, fucking troll
You should know that if you start attacking people like that you will get even more FUD because most scams try to censor any FUD they can.
. I was watched on hundreds coins, how they rise and fall, step-by step. So don't teach me I know that the more coin worth itself, the more fuds, scam accasuations, and haters, and liers it is attract. And there was no one precedent -than fud&trolls were the winner,whatsoever they said or did.
So, feel free to spreading fuds
And i will continue to be free to point out on it. August 25, 2014, 09:25:40 AM
At the current price it puts the market cap of this coin at around 50 BTC, now think about that for a second, the most innovative coin in recent memory is sitting at a market cap of $25 000.
- the coin "cap" of this coin is 50'000'000 now and will be 100'000'000 in 13 days.
So someone needed to put ~$2'000 into this coin every day only to retain current price.
This coin brings the innovation in mining, but what it brings to customer? Nothing new. So who would pay $2'000 daily?
You can say the same about every minable coin
- no, some of them at least claim that they bring to users (=buyers of coin) new level of security or anonymity, or some speed, or some fun.. But nothing new here. There is even no data storage for users:
The problem with data storage, is with the current system, anyone can generate the same plot given the address/nonce combination stored in the blockchain to verify things, but if you try to do data storage, not everyone can store a copy of all the data.
- personally I was sure, that deleloper has designed that even before the start...
Mining innovation is great, but the space usage of data is not. I'm not complaining, it would be nice if the plots had some kind of positive data/application usages. But the biggest thing is, what is the business roadmap of the coin. Cryptos are a business also that is driven by innovative technology. For the coin to survive, it has to have an explicit plan for the business side of things.
no, it makes no sense to use those plots! if i'm a investor, i don't care which way you get the coin, don't care you mine it with gpu or cpu, and for investor, did they need the plots? coin itself is still have nothing innovation to them, and for miners, when one years later, you must delete the plots for they can not mine coin anymore, i don't care what usage of these plots, plots's usage is nothing to investor or to miners. the most impotant thing is the coin itself, its innovation is what investor cares, and what they will take it a long term of investing.all important is coin itself,so if burst want to survive for a long time, new feature of the coin itself must be added
Guess there's where you and me don't look eye to eye, I like the technological side of cryptos. Don't want this to be like LTC and BTC, just be currency only. No one came up with anything innovative as far as coin technology after being mined/minted. ie. Cloakcoin anon, NAV anon, etc.... Innovation in mining is a nice honeymoon, but what's after is most important. In the end, it's the business aspect what most people only care, sadly mostly profits.
Putting something on the coin after minting/mining, can be appended any time. But the wasted space usage to mine, just really is wasteful in my opinion and probably a couple IT people would agree in that regard. Regardless, I fully support this coin and hope the best for it.
August 25, 2014, 09:25:06 AM
I like to announce:
The Plot-generator rewritten in C!
It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.
You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?
How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)
Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:
You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
The Plot-generator rewritten in C!
It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.
You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?
How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)
Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:
Code:
./plot
You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz
August 25, 2014, 09:06:28 AM
Better wasted space usage as high electricity costs.
yes, waste space usage or electricity costs with big noise , one must be chosen if you want to get coin, that was the an miner must paid for getting the coin, or what is the difference between miner and inverstor? Jump to: