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sr. member
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

just mine with what you have and even if the petabyte miners come along and drive up difficulty wouldn't that translate into higher price for the burst that you mined and held from the beginning. i think you're putting the cart before the horse with all this worrying.
sr. member
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Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.

thanks. good to know.

edit: also, i'm sure this was asked earlier but can't recall the answer but can one miner read multiple plot files for the same plotted address but diff nounce ranges?
newbie
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still selling 60k+ burst. holla.
sr. member
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Mined 8 blocks after 10 days. Not bad.
10 days, 3.1Tb (currently), FX6300, RAM 8Gb = 20 blocks
Perfectly!

btw, speed of generate: 800k nonces / 35885 seconds  (=195Gb)
full member
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Mined 8 blocks after 10 days. Not bad.
full member
Activity: 238
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

Are you just going to keep reposting this every couple of days?  

aha, he must have not found a  block until now, and he just want to complain, and i wish he will not find a coin forever Grin, it is a shame if the coin flow in a pocket whose owner complain it all the day, Grin
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Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

Are you just going to keep reposting this every couple of days?  
hero member
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How long should it take to plot a single 3 TB plot on a 3-4 TB hard drive, using an i3-4130 cpu on 16 GB of RAM and Windows 7 64 bit?
hero member
Activity: 955
Merit: 1004
Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
I like the new pool, only thing is, i've been mining on a 500gb just for this, brand new hdd for almost 7 days now. No blocks

When I read the pool was out, so I went on ahead deleted the solo plots. and generated new plots using the new id from the pool that was made for me.
It is almost done generating, and I've been running the new mine bat the whole time and all I get is this.


{
  "height": "3388",
  "generationSignature": "b9af80bf3dab37cdcac71b2a26e1c8fa664d8780d17648ce8e4ef7
95d3a3aff0",
  "baseTarget": "50577231",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool
{
  "height": "3389",
  "generationSignature": "44cb1c47707c2874dd8c2fb4948af5b2da03e031d876e36128741a
d380abcee2",
  "baseTarget": "52630836",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool

I want to get bigger hdds, but I want to wait to make sure I get at least one block first.


You will only get a share of a block once the pool finds one. I think the message "No valid shares...." is you haven't submitted a share 20,000 or lower on the deadline, you might want to put at least a 1TB or more towards the pool and ideally 2TB.

Well I suppose I could get some more hdd space. If not for this but for some place to save my videos, later on.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
I like the new pool, only thing is, i've been mining on a 500gb just for this, brand new hdd for almost 7 days now. No blocks

When I read the pool was out, so I went on ahead deleted the solo plots. and generated new plots using the new id from the pool that was made for me.
It is almost done generating, and I've been running the new mine bat the whole time and all I get is this.


{
  "height": "3388",
  "generationSignature": "b9af80bf3dab37cdcac71b2a26e1c8fa664d8780d17648ce8e4ef7
95d3a3aff0",
  "baseTarget": "50577231",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool
{
  "height": "3389",
  "generationSignature": "44cb1c47707c2874dd8c2fb4948af5b2da03e031d876e36128741a
d380abcee2",
  "baseTarget": "52630836",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool

I want to get bigger hdds, but I want to wait to make sure I get at least one block first.


You will only get a share of a block once the pool finds one. I think the message "No valid shares...." is you haven't submitted a share 20,000 or lower on the deadline; you might want to put at least a 1TB or more towards the pool, ideally 2TB.
legendary
Activity: 1713
Merit: 1029
The pool miner is stuck on "No valid shares to submit to pool".
Any ideas?

Yeah, assuming it is able to read your plots fine and you generated them for the correct address, this error simply means you didn't have any shares under the current (20k) difficulty/deadline.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
I like the new pool, only thing is, i've been mining on a 500gb just for this, brand new hdd for almost 7 days now. No blocks

When I read the pool was out, so I went on ahead deleted the solo plots. and generated new plots using the new id from the pool that was made for me.
It is almost done generating, and I've been running the new mine bat the whole time and all I get is this.


{
  "height": "3388",
  "generationSignature": "b9af80bf3dab37cdcac71b2a26e1c8fa664d8780d17648ce8e4ef7
95d3a3aff0",
  "baseTarget": "50577231",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool
{
  "height": "3389",
  "generationSignature": "44cb1c47707c2874dd8c2fb4948af5b2da03e031d876e36128741a
d380abcee2",
  "baseTarget": "52630836",
  "targetDeadline": "20000"
}
No valid shares to submit to pool

I want to get bigger hdds, but I want to wait to make sure I get at least one block first.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.
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The pool miner is stuck on "No valid shares to submit to pool".
Any ideas?
sr. member
Activity: 394
Merit: 250
Crypto enthusiast
my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.
sr. member
Activity: 394
Merit: 250
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how can i see the max coin amount at the moment ?
NRS info item in your wallet - Total Balance:   16659996

I asked a question about that earlier, bur didn't get a full answer. The "Total Balance" under NRS info shows just over 16 Million Coins, but according to the Block Rewards we should be sitting with a Total balance of just over 33 Million. Which value is the correct current supply?

Someone this afternoon tolds that maybe the total balance is only about the confirmed coin! It's not possible?!

I think the 'Total Balance' contains only 'Guaranteed Balance' 1440+ confirmations ... so if you add it up 1440*10000+'Total  Balance' you are in the same range than BlockCount*10000 ... not sure what happens with coins going to BURST-2222-2222-2222-22222 (added to next block?) ... just my interpretation ...

I think the dev mentioned this very early on that you just pay attention to your total balance. everything else is left over from the POS functionality that was removed from this coin. it just needs to be cleaned up later on to remove the confusion.
sr. member
Activity: 394
Merit: 250
Crypto enthusiast
Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.


if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.
legendary
Activity: 1713
Merit: 1029
->You go to http://198.199.103.145:8121/
->You enter your OWN Burstcoin address, It gives you a number to mine to
->You PM me that number, and how many Terabytes you want to rent
It would be better to have them give you their BURST- address. The pool checks that the letter format is formatted correctly when you register, however if they miss copying the first or last digit or screw up the generate number some other way, you have no way of knowing that something is wrong until you have an unhappy customer.

Ahh very true, thanks for the suggestion! Went back and edited my post.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Pushed a minor update to the pool which reloads the config file when it finds a block, so I can set a new target which will take effect when a block is found. We'll be upping the 20k deadine to 50k when a block is found.

That's more reasonable, thanks for the change.

Well at this point I completely give up. After mining this on 3 different computers with 3 different harddrives (1.5 TB, 1TB & 500MB) for over 1 week i've found ZERO blocks and have nothing but wasted HDD space. How are you guys doing it? I've ran my computers this continuously for over 1 week. Nothing. I've plotted successfully, followed the directions of some members who took their time to PM me with instructions and I have nothing to show for it.

Sorry for the rant, but i'm going to now go out and buy myself a steak burrito to reward myself for a job not so well done.
Thanks all! 

 Embarrassed


Did you sync you system clock to a time server? That's very important in mining this coin. Trust me, I mined 4 days straight with nothing and I redid everything, then I finally was getting blocks.

Im using windows 7 and it says it's synched to time.windows.com on all 3 computers.

Try to manually update to the time server, then start mining. Are you using the latest wallet posted on the OP?

I'm using the latest wallet. But i'm giving up. I gave up twice, so i may pick it up again, but not now. I'm giving my PCs and Harddrives a rest.

You can try the pool out. Solo mining is pretty annoying at times. Some times you get on a streak, then all of a sudden days upon days of nothing. At least with a pool, you can minimize the luck factor a bit.
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