Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 185. (Read 2170889 times)

After many comments from various community members are you not able to accept constructive criticism without resorting to verbally attacking individuals?  I respect the fact that you want to see Burst change for the better and that you also have the skills needed to make things happen. The issue is how you are going about it with the threats of "this needs to happen or I am taking Burst down" Burst is the first of it's kind do you really want to burn it to the ground and tarnish the history to prove your point? And you will say "if not nothing would happen and Burst would die". So let it die and create your own. The community was just now notified via crowetic document that the original Burst Dev is not returning, everyone was waiting on him to see if his personal issues would be resolved.

I do agree with the plan that has been presented but more interested in seeing potential uses for Burst so it can have some type of value. Most of the community is probably concerned with your long-term intentions for Burst. You give the impression that the #1 priority is to get rich off of Burst with changes as needed and anything else that happens is secondary. You felt the need to invest a great deal in hardware and now feel Burst owes you. Coins die all of the time, how would it harm you to leave Burst and start your own clone from scratch? You would probably attract many users from here and who knows maybe take the lead away from Burst. You would already have the hardware, keep Burst coins, see what community does without you as you create your own and dump those too. A Win/Win for you.


How can people respect you when your first response is to call someone an imbecile or moron when they have done nothing like that to you? The point that I am making is that regardless of what has been said you could approach things a little differently if you wanted to. If you still do not wish to do that for the good of the community remain as silent as your silent partners and let Crowetic/Tiga be the face of Burst as they have the necessary leadership skills.

I think the price is already start to heal @32 satoshi . And the crash it is probably caused by this argument/bickering that is happening on this thread.

If everybody keeps calm and stats buying BURST then we can probably hit the 40 satoshi again. We just need a community effort to do it.

So please keep civil and start buying BURST

a question, is http://burstcoin.biz/ surfbar working fine? because seems like is freezed or something like that, i mean that they didnt pay in the last days, someone know if all is ok with it?

Sorry but no, I got my asset on BURST, and I really want to see BURST succeed.

I personally think that making a BURST clone will only split mining power and investments into half which would be a horrible idea, which we are trying to avoid here.

But sure you can create your BURST clone, it's a free market, and try to compete with BURST. But I don't think that a split would resolve anything, you would face the same problems, and it would be twice worse.

BurstIncomeAsset, perhaps you would support a clone? There seems to be support from bobaffet and Elmit.

1. On this thread maybe, but just opening another thread in the altcoin discussion, or project development section, to get more volunteer developers, marketers, or other important positions could work. It doesn't cost anything, so it is no reason not to try.

2. Not really, there are many whales in bitrex, doing lower volume coins than BURST with 100 bitcoins or more. Somebody just needs to convince them to temporarily invest in BURST, and if things turn out better they win,we win, so its win for all of us.

3. Marketplace is a marketplace, it is if the people are interested in it, they will use it, so this is kind of a passive result, as it doesn't really depend on the developer team, but mostly on the BURST users to create demand

4. Well again, it doesn't cost anything, so it is no reason not to try it, and amongst more new BURST users, we might find the necessary promoters/programmers/specialists ,etc.. (take it as a BURST recruitment event)

5. Of course, I think the ASSETS are BURST's main magnet, so if done correctly, and with very charming assets/investment options, I really thing we can get many BURST investors , that both help move the BURST price up, and the respective assets. Now we currently have 3-4 assets that are worth investing in , but if new people can come up with new asset ideas, then it can definitely help.

The financial incentive is in the investment itself, if it turns out good, then the asset creator can get enough funding to start his business, and the investors can get good returns subsequently.

There is nothing deceitful in this, the job of the investors is to take present risk in expectation of future rewards. Nobody knows what the future of BURST will be but if investors put say 100 BTC in BURST now, they will expect them to return 1000 BTC in the future, in one way or another.

I see really good opportunities in BURST ,and it would be a shame to let it go to waste, just because the price is low and miners quit.

Obviously we would prefer to take advantage of BURST's exposure, rather than compete with it. But if we can't manage that, once burst crashes, we will see clones.

Then again, I understand you would support a clone. Anybody else? Let's put this on the table.

i would prefer a clone with the new system. this could be done fast and easily and we can try this. if it works, fine, if not, then nothing is lost.

and if no clone is coming and who exactly is the plan how to do this and when will the change be made?

I read tons of words here, but no exact plan.....

In my opinion, that changes can be good or not, we will see.... nobody knows the future.

How many other language you speak? It is not my national language so i write in this way. Everyone understand it. I am waiting for your reply.

And i see you took your pills becouse your posts are calm Good. First step is the most important. Next go the therapy and everything will be fine. I promise And remember. If your paranoia (51% attack, block reward increasing) return to step 1 - take pills and visit doctor.

Now i am really finish this conversation. I have no time and health for this.

duncan_idaho, I reluctantly give you my final response.
English is the international language. Learn proper English, then we can discuss. That is if you have any self respect.

You can't seriously expect to patronize people with your broken English.

And please reflect on your childish and arrogant attitude before you make comments on others. You just sound like a broken record.

I write what will occur when block reward will increase (but you know that very well).

1) Big miners like you or maybe someone else, can generate more coins.
2) You said that you not hold your coins so you dump it on market.
3) Today buy orders on poloniex are 7 BTC
4) You mine 100 block per day and everyday dump it
5) So the only one person with profit is YOU. So what dou think, if people see massive dump, they will buy more coins or remove they buy walls on the market?
6) What do you think waht price wil be after your dumping?

Linus Torvalds make Linux kernel fo free as a student. Don't take any money fore that. Now Linux is operating system used on many server platform. Is Linus poor? No. Is he have money from his hard work? Is he do it for free? YES.

So if you want to do something good for burst then use your skills and prove you are right person.

Maybe we really should consider to create multiple coins: ELMIT, HAITCH, ITIGA, LADEN, NINJA, DRUNK, ... and all with cross blockchain transaction.
Then we can really make any mining/trading anonymous, ....

As far as I know dcct, luxe and vcbs match or exceed my skills.
But I was the only one crazy enough to take the job.

Everybody thinks devs should work for free, but as you can see, it doesn't work that way. BurstDev quit, others don't want to take his place.

Haitch's delusion is that a dev should buy coins, work for free, and hope the price goes up so he can make money. The funny thing is that my position is not far from this. I didn't buy BURST but I did invest in hashpower.

Things being as they are, I don't see any potential profit. That's why my condition is to change the reward structure. As I said before, the problem is that everybody held on to the coin that they mined for cheap in the beginning, and ultimately can dump below a level where a profit can still be made from mining. That's a problem that affects all of us.

I also proposed the dev fund not for myself, but to provide incentive for somebody else to take my place, as soon as possible. Developing this kind of project requires lots of work. People that don't have programming background simply can't understand. And unlike the others, I don't seek their blessing, and this infuriates them. I challenge them to learn programming instead of nagging.

Ultimately if the change does not happen, I intend to launch a clone with my reward structure, when I feel the time is right. Or if anybody else does it before I do, it will only make me happy.

Last but not least, people may like me or not, but they have to understand that it is my freedom to do as I please, they have no right to tell me what to do, just because I don't fit into their moral compass. We should all remember that we are all here for freedom, and that includes my freedom as well. Respect me and I will respect you.

I know, ... but I say BIN ;-)
I also know it is Haitch and use permanently Headach ;-)
Or Tera, but often used Terra ;-)

BIT BIT BIT not bin

well i had read the full document from @crowetic, ofc there is things that maybe people dont like, but instead of fighting with each others, people should try to find a solution to those things who they dont like and debate it like reasonable persons, untill we do, we are wasting our time...

Dont forget that all we want the same, lets start a nice debate about @crowetic proposal and lets see if we can improve what he suggest.

IMHO the documents seems pretty cool and i agree with most of his proposal, i would like to see the "Decentralized File storage" into BURST, i really think is a pretty nice idea and this will eat all others alt coins out there who are doing something similar since burst will have it and MUCH MORE.

About @bitladen as maid dev i dont know what to think since i didnt know if he is good enought to be the "Core development (main dev)".

Yeah but it is only words. No evidence of his skills. Burst have AT nad smart contratcs - it provide tools to write blokchain oriented programs, so he can create something useful for burst.

New wallet? Where? I don't see ANYTHIG wrote by bitladen. Only words nothing else. Github link for his project? Miner for burst? Plotter? Plot-optimizer? Mining pool code? I see nothing wrote by bitladen.

So if i need bitladen as dev or 51% i choose 51% and wait for that. We can make communitz voting but i know the result right know

No, I do not like any such words, ... I do not use the f* word at all. However, if you do what you suggest to others, sit back and think about the meaning of his words, then you must either agree or you need somebody to translate it to you.

I don't think he is threatening, he is pointing out it is possible, and if you (all) keep on teasing, he will accept the invitation of proving it to you.

His programming skills are in my opinion excellent, and that is what matters. He pointed out that blago had severe programming problems.
All of the mentioned ones are either already out of the game, or by far not at the level of BinLaden.

What means decision without proof? If he makes a new wallet, you can read the code, you can compare to the old code, ... whatever ... If one person says the code is not good, then we will not implement it. It does not mean, that he writes the code and we have to use it.
Again, 51% DECIDE. ....

And one more thing.

You people do not understand sense of crypto. You are part of history using bitcoin or burstcoin part of finnacial revolution, maybe part of falling current fiat system and US dollar value in the world. You are part of technical aspect of first HDD mined coin (no clone from a year) This is not for profi this is not profit guarantee. You support the idea of cryptocurrency, idea of hdd mining. You need to have some technical skills to run it, develeop it, making a mining pool or assets. You are part of community not a banking system. Please understand it and stop crying about valu about price and other shits. Make some for burst make some for cryptocurrencies and value go in time. Remember begining of bitcoin? So stop this nonesense and making conversations with trolls and fuders.

Elmit, I appreciate your support, but it's pointless, you can't reason with these idiots. Let them die. Nothing else computes to them. All they ever want is free code, as in free beer. And we all know that free software stands for freedom, not free beer. All they do is attack with stupid arguments, I think that goes against freedom, and I won't endorse it.

Elmit i don't care what he did or whit will do. I don't care also about your personal problems with other forum users. But i don't want insane people in dev team. That's all. I am with burst from begining from the first mined block. Many trolls and fuders was in ths thread in year. No one survive. And that will be this time also. So you or bitladen can threat about 51% attack or make clone of burst. Go ahead. Nobody cares, people mine and dump and nothin gonna change it untill thi coin cannot be in use. Everything else is jus speculations. And inreasing block reawrd changes nothing.