[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 506.

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Quote from: merkalor on December 21, 2014, 02:38:53 PM

When i said dangerous it´s because i have my photos my porn collection and others wallets in my HDD

if you want to be sure mine over secondary HDD or do 2 partition if you have just one HDD...

in any case, it is not dangerous....
you read your plots just one time per block.

from dev...

Only 0.024% of the stored data will need to be read each block

if you have 10TB plotted you read just 2,4GB.

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When i said dangerous it´s because i have my photos my porn collection and others wallets in my HDD

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AT - Automated Transactions - CIYAM Developer

Quote from: fivebells on December 21, 2014, 08:24:59 AM

Has there been any work on the development environment for AT? The spec at CIYAM seems very low-level.

Is a crypto API going to be added to it? Doing crypto using the AT instructions would be very expensive.

How does the AT code interact with reward assignment? Vitalik Buterin thought up a mining contract where the terms of mining would be very enticing, and would lock participants' coin into the contract using a heavy penalty once the mining pool controlled more than 50% of the hashing power, giving the controller of the contract the power to double spend. Such a malicious arrangement could be simplified if AT code can automatically set reward assignment.

It would be great to see the source code for the AT branch of burstcoin. Is it available anywhere?

For the moment the way to create AT programs is writing AT machine code or using the https://github.com/BurstProject/ATAssembler burstdev made.

There are many hash functions defined in the API section of the AT ( md5, sha256, ripemd160) you can use. Check the API specification for all the API calls an AT program can make ( http://ciyam.org/at/at_api.html ).

I am not sure I totally understood your question about reward assignment. ATs are consuming fees from running op codes and calling API functions. The fees goes to the "forger" of the block.

The code will be available very soon.

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Quote from: merkalor on December 21, 2014, 10:26:22 AM

Burst is a NxT clone?

Nope, Burst is a Nxt fork.. big difference, burst actually does a few things Nxt can't do. And considering all the issues with POS, Proof of Capacity is a pretty stable

Quote from: merkalor on December 21, 2014, 10:49:06 AM

Ah ok thank you
It's innovative but isn't dangerous for the HDD?

Not that much... Google did an in-depth study on hard drive failure rates. Usage barely plays a part when it comes to failure rates:
http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en/us/archive/disk_failures.pdf

During the first 6 months of owning a hard drive, heavy usage could increase the odds of failure but after that.. it's negligible. And if your drive fails during the first 6 months.. it was probably going to fail fairly soon anyway, in my opinion.. after all it probably means there is a manufacturing problem or it was tossed around too much during shipping or something.

Not to mention that though Burst initially heavily uses your hard drive for plotting, after that, I'd arguably consider it low usage.. every 4 minutes you read a few MB from it, and you don't need to write back to it, which isn't too bad. And it's not like it's constantly reading and writing.

Glad to see that you are thinking about the coin, happy to answer any questions you might have.

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Quote from: yellowduck2 on December 21, 2014, 10:55:00 AM

Quote from: merkalor on December 21, 2014, 10:49:06 AM

Ah ok thank you
It's innovative but isn't dangerous for the HDD?

What do u mean by "dangerous" ? If u mean reducing life span of HDD is "dangerous" , every mining operation is "dangerous" because every single piece of hardware have reduce life span running 24/7 , no matter its ASIC or GPU or HDD , all mining operation are "dangerous" by nature.

It's not more dangerous than working on your PC.

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Quote from: merkalor on December 21, 2014, 10:49:06 AM

Ah ok thank you
It's innovative but isn't dangerous for the HDD?

What do u mean by "dangerous" ? If u mean reducing life span of HDD is "dangerous" , every mining operation is "dangerous" because every single piece of hardware have reduce life span running 24/7 , no matter its ASIC or GPU or HDD , all mining operation are "dangerous" by nature.

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Ah ok thank you
It's innovative but isn't dangerous for the HDD?

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Quote from: merkalor on December 21, 2014, 10:26:22 AM

Burst is a NxT clone?

Burst is POC, not POS.

"Burst is a fork of NXT with PoS removed to make way for Proof-of-Capacity. Burst has all the features of a 2nd Gen crypto-currency with it's own added benefits."

http://burstcoin.info/index.html

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Burst is a NxT clone?

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Quote from: fivebells on December 21, 2014, 09:00:27 AM

Oh, I wrote a lot of 6809 assembly when I was a kid.

I still want to know what the best tools are.

Awesome.. a lot of people hear assembly and run the other direction

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Quote from: fivebells on December 21, 2014, 08:27:58 AM

Quote from: mmmaybe on December 21, 2014, 07:54:39 AM

Can someone help me find that great illustration posted some weeks ago with a sunny forest when mining Burst and POW-mining with environmental problems and smog? Can't remember who did it.

Thanks!

Majere. (He still shows up in the send list when I use the burst wallet.)

Quote from: majere on October 28, 2014, 12:27:03 PM

A simpler diagram for non-techies. Grin

The image is in public domain. Author's wallet: BURST-6MZ2-6MH9-U5AX-FNMJX

Thank you!

okae

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Quote from: Nevril on December 21, 2014, 08:45:28 AM

Zippolo is one of the pool owners... I simply asked him yesterday

ohh well, sorry i didnt know Tongue

, btw ty for the info!

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Oh, I wrote a lot of 6809 assembly when I was a kid.

I still want to know what the best tools are.

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Quote from: fivebells on December 21, 2014, 08:24:59 AM

Has there been any work on the development environment for AT? The spec at CIYAM seems very low-level.

Is a crypto API going to be added to it? Doing crypto using the AT instructions would be very expensive.

How does the AT code interact with reward assignment? Vitalik Buterin thought up a mining contract where the terms of mining would be very enticing, and would lock participants' coin into the contract using a heavy penalty once the mining pool controlled more than 50% of the hashing power, giving the controller of the contract the power to double spend. Such a malicious arrangement could be simplified if AT code can automatically set reward assignment.

It would be great to see the source code for the AT branch of burstcoin. Is it available anywhere?

Yeah, it is indeed assembly code that will be working initially, just yesterday started working on trying to get a simple compiler written.. anyone want to help, let me know.

That being said, assembly isn't impossible to write on your own. and you get control of the program and can write it very efficiently, which might be important to some when posting by the instruction.

Dev had plans to figure out reward assignments over weekend as previously every instruction was being considered equal. You want to discuss further with him, he might appreciate it.

But it's important from a security standpoint that ATs are written in assembly in the core code because that makes it easier to catch bugs. If we build a higher level language on that can compiler down to assembly, that's ideal and intentional.

One other thing, vbecas and probably me (I'd want to be paid), maybe others, would be willing write ATs/help people learn if they need help getting started.

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Quote from: okae on December 21, 2014, 08:06:59 AM

Quote from: Nevril on December 20, 2014, 04:43:47 PM

Quote from: okae on December 20, 2014, 04:27:17 PM

any1 know when http://pool.burstcoin.it will come back, is down since yesterday night Sad

and im unable to find any info, all i have found is that they will inyect some burst to the pool, but as i sayd thats was more than 18 hours agoo.

As far as I know they had an issue and they're currently trying to fix it.
No ETA thou.
You may consider switching to another pool in the meanwhile.

ohh ty for your reply, yes i will go to another pool in the meanwhile.

Quote from: zippolo on December 20, 2014, 08:32:14 PM

Quote from: Nevril on December 20, 2014, 04:43:47 PM

Quote from: okae on December 20, 2014, 04:27:17 PM

any1 know when http://pool.burstcoin.it will come back, is down since yesterday night Sad

and im unable to find any info, all i have found is that they will inyect some burst to the pool, but as i sayd thats was more than 18 hours agoo.

As far as I know they had an issue and they're currently trying to fix it.
No ETA thou.
You may consider switching to another pool in the meanwhile.

Yes, as Nevril said we are having network problems and we are working to fix.
I really apologise for the downtime

ok, there is np, bad things happends Wink

btw where did you get that info? i mean where "Nevril" or any pool owners sayd it? because i read this thread and i cant find nothing.

TY for your replys guys, and keep the good job!!

Zippolo is one of the pool owners... I simply asked him yesterday

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Quote from: mmmaybe on December 21, 2014, 07:54:39 AM

Can someone help me find that great illustration posted some weeks ago with a sunny forest when mining Burst and POW-mining with environmental problems and smog? Can't remember who did it.

Thanks!

Majere. (He still shows up in the send list when I use the burst wallet.)

Quote from: majere on October 28, 2014, 12:27:03 PM

A simpler diagram for non-techies. Grin

The image is in public domain. Author's wallet: BURST-6MZ2-6MH9-U5AX-FNMJX

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Has there been any work on the development environment for AT? The spec at CIYAM seems very low-level.

Is a crypto API going to be added to it? Doing crypto using the AT instructions would be very expensive.

How does the AT code interact with reward assignment? Vitalik Buterin thought up a mining contract where the terms of mining would be very enticing, and would lock participants' coin into the contract using a heavy penalty once the mining pool controlled more than 50% of the hashing power, giving the controller of the contract the power to double spend. Such a malicious arrangement could be simplified if AT code can automatically set reward assignment.

It would be great to see the source code for the AT branch of burstcoin. Is it available anywhere?

okae

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northern exposure

Quote from: Nevril on December 20, 2014, 04:43:47 PM

Quote from: okae on December 20, 2014, 04:27:17 PM

any1 know when http://pool.burstcoin.it will come back, is down since yesterday night Sad

and im unable to find any info, all i have found is that they will inyect some burst to the pool, but as i sayd thats was more than 18 hours agoo.

As far as I know they had an issue and they're currently trying to fix it.
No ETA thou.
You may consider switching to another pool in the meanwhile.

ohh ty for your reply, yes i will go to another pool in the meanwhile.

Quote from: zippolo on December 20, 2014, 08:32:14 PM

Quote from: Nevril on December 20, 2014, 04:43:47 PM

Quote from: okae on December 20, 2014, 04:27:17 PM

any1 know when http://pool.burstcoin.it will come back, is down since yesterday night Sad

and im unable to find any info, all i have found is that they will inyect some burst to the pool, but as i sayd thats was more than 18 hours agoo.

As far as I know they had an issue and they're currently trying to fix it.
No ETA thou.
You may consider switching to another pool in the meanwhile.

Yes, as Nevril said we are having network problems and we are working to fix.
I really apologise for the downtime

ok, there is np, bad things happends Wink

btw where did you get that info? i mean where "Nevril" or any pool owners sayd it? because i read this thread and i cant find nothing.

TY for your replys guys, and keep the good job!!

mmmaybe

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Can someone help me find that great illustration posted some weeks ago with a sunny forest when mining Burst and POW-mining with environmental problems and smog? Can't remember who did it.

Thanks!

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