I don't think there is any data center &/or single person involved in sudden rise of difficulty.
If somebody can dig more into http://burstcoin.eu/charts/addresses-by-forged-blocks/week we don't see any new account who has forged more than 15 blocks in past week !
almost 95% accounts with more than 15 blocks (2 or more blocks per day = just 50-60 TB) in past week are 2-3 months old.
I guess the sudden drop & rise of the difficulty depends on the method of counting it.
Just like yesterday we came to know why number of miners are less than the actual number of miners per pool because it is based on the block finder.
May be it is the reason why we see sudden increase & drop of network difficulty. I mentioned it earlier also about more than a month back but nobody answered at the time.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9334291
I also doubted the same thing about data center & blaa blaa but now looking at the past week's block finder I doubt that any data center thing is involved.
Mostly it's like more & more people with considerable amount of free space have involved in BurstMining recently & due to some different counting method we see sudden rise & drop cycles in difficulty. May be Dev or the person who has established that difficulty counting method can explain this thing with more detail.
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December 06, 2014, 01:46:05 PM
December 06, 2014, 01:27:30 PM
anyone knows if blago mining app is detected by virus scanners ?
check https://www.virustotal.com/ru/file/f3cb4f198edde92605c7ae6a18553c1eeb7e4ecccc12cc60ccee2d3c0b52df9e/analysis/1417890296/
code https://github.com/Blagodarenko/miner-burst
December 06, 2014, 12:23:10 PM
Pool Statistics are now in Public Beta. -> http://burst4.me/poolstats/
Please have a look and tell me any strange data. (Statistics are still being generated, Reward Assignment is only aviable from today on)
Please have a look and tell me any strange data. (Statistics are still being generated, Reward Assignment is only aviable from today on)
Good stuff.
Kudos!
December 06, 2014, 11:39:42 AM
someone found a way to package plots in tor network , which would spread like a wildfire part of big tor is some real app and mining software might not red flag virus scanners, tor gets delivered unpacked by a poor and unsuspecting individual , part of the app is mining software that taps to tor file, but these oscillations.... mining software might coordinate activities of all clients notify all to turn and and off to give impression of "human activity" at work
logic here why tor is because tor files often are big tera bytes big and they would escape scrutiny
anyone knows if blago mining app is detected by virus scanners ?
what is even more funny is that http://cryptomining.farm/ will also give out big bonus to "it" as it will not know how to differentiate
there's no reason for blago's mining app to be labeled as a viruslogic here why tor is because tor files often are big tera bytes big and they would escape scrutiny
anyone knows if blago mining app is detected by virus scanners ?
what is even more funny is that http://cryptomining.farm/ will also give out big bonus to "it" as it will not know how to differentiate
tor, not likely. tor is run and used by computer savvy folks
December 06, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
someone found a way to package plots in tor network , which would spread like a wildfire part of big tor is some real app and mining software might not red flag virus scanners, tor gets delivered unpacked by a poor and unsuspecting individual , part of the app is mining software that taps to tor file, but these oscillations.... mining software might coordinate activities of all clients notify all to turn and and off to give impression of "human activity" at work
logic here why tor is because tor files often are big tera bytes big and they would escape scrutiny
anyone knows if blago mining app is detected by virus scanners ?
what is even more funny is that http://cryptomining.farm/ will also give out big bonus to "it" as it will not know how to differentiate
logic here why tor is because tor files often are big tera bytes big and they would escape scrutiny
anyone knows if blago mining app is detected by virus scanners ?
what is even more funny is that http://cryptomining.farm/ will also give out big bonus to "it" as it will not know how to differentiate
December 06, 2014, 11:03:22 AM
if its really botnet , new PoC coin will have a hard time fighting them. They pretty much own the whole network. It's not easy to build up network size for the first couple of weeks. Therefore, botnet is consider good news ? Botnet will be a good anti clone ? Or perhaps those botnet owner is burst developer ?
it is a human being (with > 100 accounts, cloned and prepared in advanced in quite premeditated way, but by a person probably with access to some VPS at a BIG expense or he/she managed to inject plots in illicit way and bypassed sys admin audit), and he is closely watching your reactions, CPU coins botnets are proven to exists, POS type of botnets I can not imagine being the case, someone made me laugh here suggesting utilization of browser html5 storage , funny.. botnet would have to in stealth inject massive plot file and do so without system admins knowing that (and storage is valued and monitored) maybe some data center(s) failed to notice their storage being suddenly depleted lol
now there are botnets runnins on exchanges manipulating prices of many alt coins , that is a separate problem
anyways interesting drama is unfolding here , stopping calling him/she an idiot because there is nothing wrong with making money, it is just that he/she might lose shirt in the process before that happens
maybe they found a way to put a 100 account number in the plots and code the miners to use the right one
so the same 50 tb plots use a hundred time...
December 06, 2014, 10:50:56 AM
if its really botnet , new PoC coin will have a hard time fighting them. They pretty much own the whole network. It's not easy to build up network size for the first couple of weeks. Therefore, botnet is consider good news ? Botnet will be a good anti clone ? Or perhaps those botnet owner is burst developer ?
it is a human being (with > 100 accounts, cloned and prepared in advanced in quite premeditated way, but by a person probably with access to some VPS at a BIG expense or he/she managed to inject plots in illicit way and bypassed sys admin audit), and he is closely watching your reactions, CPU coins botnets are proven to exists, POS type of botnets I can not imagine being the case, someone made me laugh here suggesting utilization of browser html5 storage , funny.. botnet would have to in stealth inject massive plot file and do so without system admins knowing that (and storage is valued and monitored) maybe some data center(s) failed to notice their storage being suddenly depleted lol
now there are botnets runnins on exchanges manipulating prices of many alt coins , that is a separate problem
anyways interesting drama is unfolding here , stopping calling him/she an idiot because there is nothing wrong with making money, it is just that he/she might lose shirt in the process before that happens
all you need to do is plot a small file (relatively speaking), say 50 GB. so 100 computers can add up to 5TB and 1000 bots give you 50TB. this is a low back of the napkin estimate.
but a "smart" operator would code it up so that it takes up say half of available disk and with large drives out there, you're talking several hundred GB per plot file are very likely. you can plot say a 1000 files across 1000 computers all for 1 account you can have them setup in proxy/pool mining.
the large swings could be computers being turned off and on in different time zones? once a file is plotted, mining is pretty much unnoticeable.
anyway, this is possible, but I'm probably wrong
but the network size oscillates 15T then 8T and 7T then back up again... and all at once all these computers would have to turn on and off at the same time
drama continues
also we can not tell IP (because it is solo) if "it" would connect to the pool, would be different we would know immediate what is going on
also not just weekend, weekdays too, workplace possibly , supercomputing data center and virtual attached storage partitioned, plots sneaked in (but not the full) also I would expect to be 20P right now and growing if unlimited, so there is a definite limit to what "it" is doing, pretty funny all this, at 20 P all others mining activities would halt to the stand still.. so that is why "it" might also not do it (oscillations to it is like giving a carrot, teasing)
could they also be re-plotting so that the 50% swings appear? someone mentioned that new files are "luckier" initially by as much as 30%? if so, someone could be just using this method too re-plot a bunch of smaller files spread across many computers.
December 06, 2014, 10:47:54 AM
if i look at the problems of some pools are suddenly offline for hours, then again online, like urasy in the last weeks perhaps. This could also be an explanation.
And: How is the networksize calculatet. Could the size counted so exactly <- just asking, i dont know, how this is calculated....
And: How is the networksize calculatet. Could the size counted so exactly <- just asking, i dont know, how this is calculated....
December 06, 2014, 10:40:42 AM
if its really botnet , new PoC coin will have a hard time fighting them. They pretty much own the whole network. It's not easy to build up network size for the first couple of weeks. Therefore, botnet is consider good news ? Botnet will be a good anti clone ? Or perhaps those botnet owner is burst developer ?
it is a human being (with > 100 accounts, cloned and prepared in advanced in quite premeditated way, but by a person probably with access to some VPS at a BIG expense or he/she managed to inject plots in illicit way and bypassed sys admin audit), and he is closely watching your reactions, CPU coins botnets are proven to exists, POS type of botnets I can not imagine being the case, someone made me laugh here suggesting utilization of browser html5 storage , funny.. botnet would have to in stealth inject massive plot file and do so without system admins knowing that (and storage is valued and monitored) maybe some data center(s) failed to notice their storage being suddenly depleted lol
now there are botnets runnins on exchanges manipulating prices of many alt coins , that is a separate problem
anyways interesting drama is unfolding here , stopping calling him/she an idiot because there is nothing wrong with making money, it is just that he/she might lose shirt in the process before that happens
all you need to do is plot a small file (relatively speaking), say 50 GB. so 100 computers can add up to 5TB and 1000 bots give you 50TB. this is a low back of the napkin estimate.
but a "smart" operator would code it up so that it takes up say half of available disk and with large drives out there, you're talking several hundred GB per plot file are very likely. you can plot say a 1000 files across 1000 computers all for 1 account you can have them setup in proxy/pool mining.
the large swings could be computers being turned off and on in different time zones? once a file is plotted, mining is pretty much unnoticeable.
anyway, this is possible, but I'm probably wrong
but the network size oscillates 15T then 8T and 7T then back up again... and all at once all these computers would have to turn on and off at the same time
drama continues
also we can not tell IP (because it is solo) if "it" would connect to the pool, would be different we would know immediate what is going on
also not just weekend, weekdays too, workplace possibly , supercomputing data center and virtual attached storage partitioned, plots sneaked in (but not the full) also I would expect to be 20P right now and growing if unlimited, so there is a definite limit to what "it" is doing, pretty funny all this, at 20 P all others mining activities would halt to the stand still.. so that is why "it" might also not do it (oscillations are like giving a carrot, teasing), yeah folks "IT" is playing you all like a violin
also "IT" might be moving plots around (which takes time) to avoid detection
December 06, 2014, 10:35:23 AM
if its really botnet , new PoC coin will have a hard time fighting them. They pretty much own the whole network. It's not easy to build up network size for the first couple of weeks. Therefore, botnet is consider good news ? Botnet will be a good anti clone ? Or perhaps those botnet owner is burst developer ?
it is a human being (with > 100 accounts, cloned and prepared in advanced in quite premeditated way, but by a person probably with access to some VPS at a BIG expense or he/she managed to inject plots in illicit way and bypassed sys admin audit), and he is closely watching your reactions, CPU coins botnets are proven to exists, POS type of botnets I can not imagine being the case, someone made me laugh here suggesting utilization of browser html5 storage , funny.. botnet would have to in stealth inject massive plot file and do so without system admins knowing that (and storage is valued and monitored) maybe some data center(s) failed to notice their storage being suddenly depleted lol
now there are botnets runnins on exchanges manipulating prices of many alt coins , that is a separate problem
anyways interesting drama is unfolding here , stopping calling him/she an idiot because there is nothing wrong with making money, it is just that he/she might lose shirt in the process before that happens
all you need to do is plot a small file (relatively speaking), say 50 GB. so 100 computers can add up to 5TB and 1000 bots give you 50TB. this is a low back of the napkin estimate.
but a "smart" operator would code it up so that it takes up say half of available disk and with large drives out there, you're talking several hundred GB per plot file are very likely. you can plot say a 1000 files across 1000 computers all for 1 account you can have them setup in proxy/pool mining.
the large swings could be computers being turned off and on in different time zones? once a file is plotted, mining is pretty much unnoticeable.
anyway, this is possible, but I'm probably wrong
December 06, 2014, 10:31:01 AM
What's wrong with you people? 
"We are all dooomed" - or what?
The difficulty rises about 20% and you are speculating about botnets and one big player?!
This kind of rise in difficulty is expected and no anomaly at all. The weeks without rise in difficulty were the anomaly and to worry about. The network grows, the number of wallet grows with it. Nothing to worry about at all.
"We are all dooomed" - or what?The difficulty rises about 20% and you are speculating about botnets and one big player?!
This kind of rise in difficulty is expected and no anomaly at all. The weeks without rise in difficulty were the anomaly and to worry about. The network grows, the number of wallet grows with it. Nothing to worry about at all.
Speculating is fun. Just like people speculate about alien ET.
Maybe developer will update version to include anti botnet mining, who knows. He is capable of making HDD mining after all.
December 06, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
What's wrong with you people? "We are all dooomed" - or what?
The difficulty rises about 20% and you are speculating about botnets and one big player?!
This kind of rise in difficulty is expected and no anomaly at all. The weeks without rise in difficulty were the anomaly and to worry about. The network grows, the number of wallet grows with it. Nothing to worry about at all.
"We are all dooomed" - or what?The difficulty rises about 20% and you are speculating about botnets and one big player?!
This kind of rise in difficulty is expected and no anomaly at all. The weeks without rise in difficulty were the anomaly and to worry about. The network grows, the number of wallet grows with it. Nothing to worry about at all.
The problem with this is it will push out small miners like myself where electric is not dirt cheap and we can not get stellar deals on hardware. That is why I shyed away from home bitcoin mining and just do cloud mining. Having physical mining hardware just is more interesting (although more work of course)
December 06, 2014, 10:24:24 AM
What's wrong with you people? "We are all dooomed" - or what?
The difficulty rises about 20% and you are speculating about botnets and one big player?!
This kind of rise in difficulty is expected and no anomaly at all. The weeks without rise in difficulty were the anomaly and to worry about. The network grows, the number of wallet grows with it. Nothing to worry about at all.
"We are all dooomed" - or what?The difficulty rises about 20% and you are speculating about botnets and one big player?!
This kind of rise in difficulty is expected and no anomaly at all. The weeks without rise in difficulty were the anomaly and to worry about. The network grows, the number of wallet grows with it. Nothing to worry about at all.
December 06, 2014, 10:17:45 AM
if its really botnet , new PoC coin will have a hard time fighting them. They pretty much own the whole network. It's not easy to build up network size for the first couple of weeks. Therefore, botnet is consider good news ? Botnet will be a good anti clone ? Or perhaps those botnet owner is burst developer ?
it is a human being (with > 100 accounts, cloned and prepared in advanced in quite premeditated way, but by a person probably with access to some VPS at a BIG expense or he/she managed to inject plots in illicit way and bypassed sys admin audit), and he is closely watching your reactions, CPU coins botnets are proven to exists, POS type of botnets I can not imagine being the case, someone made me laugh here suggesting utilization of browser html5 storage , funny.. botnet would have to in stealth inject massive plot file and do so without system admins knowing that (and storage is valued and monitored) maybe some data center(s) failed to notice their storage being suddenly depleted lol
now there are botnets runnins on exchanges manipulating prices of many alt coins , that is a separate problem
anyways interesting drama is unfolding here , stopping calling him/she an idiot because there is nothing wrong with making money, it is just that he/she might lose shirt in the process before that happens
December 06, 2014, 09:58:49 AM
if its really botnet , new PoC coin will have a hard time fighting them. They pretty much own the whole network. It's not easy to build up network size for the first couple of weeks. Therefore, botnet is consider good news ? Botnet will be a good anti clone ? Or perhaps those botnet owner is burst developer ?
December 06, 2014, 09:55:27 AM
OMG!
I get 680 burst from pool.burstcoin.io on 4TB plots for last 24 hours!
I get 680 burst from pool.burstcoin.io on 4TB plots for last 24 hours!
that is a lot, congratulations
o sorry to hear that... do not switch to solo all by now are aware that someone (I called him/she and idiot because he/she has taken over the network, now it seems 24/h, we see spike of 15 peta bytes and at that level, 10 TB will produce fractional cents daily while risking drive failure over extended period of time)
not being negative at all it is a very unfortunate situation (it would much different and healthy if by the action of 100's or 1000's real user accounts such a network capacity was produced), checking price (I also said this situation will drive price down to 2 digits, before that you might see subtle price movement (sell orders from multiple accounts but originating from one individual)
123 sat.. high price only because not even idiot is selling, very likely being in the negative FIAT if he would to do so idiot is waiting and hoping but I doubt he/she will wait for very long as there is real danger of POC clones next year and then really 2 digits super fast, best of luck to you and have a wonderful weekend
thank you that you saying this the second or the third time here.
have you any prove for that?
Someone else has already proved that (so I promptly disconnected my drives. it does not makes sense mining without at least 200 T to 500 T and this is too much for this stage of coin existence not to mention expense)
On can attempt to purchase coins, at 123 sat it is rather low, so like multipools mining something else and buying BURST
but danger of course is the "2-digit" , but please everyone should do their own due diligence and this is not FUD
as fas as clones.. good think about that is diversification and re-use of hardware plus competition sparks innovation
below from couple of days ago
"
Here is my calculation:
Total blocks in the last 24 hours: 350
Blocks found by these new solo miners in the last 24 hours: 123 (35,14%)
Total blocks in the last 48 hours: 708
Blocks found by these new solo miners in the last 48 hours: 259 (36,58%)
Total blocks in the last 72 hours: 1069
Blocks found by these new solo miners in the last 72 hours: 354 (33,16%)
These numbers are equal with the diff increase in the last few days (approx. 35% - 40%).
"
i like this stat q327K091
thank you for sharing
December 06, 2014, 09:53:23 AM
that sooner or laster poc clones are comming is for sure....
but everything else..... he sould show us here some proves or stop talking....
noone will help empty words here.
but everything else..... he sould show us here some proves or stop talking....
noone will help empty words here.
if clones come up.. i think a big part of network size move to the new POC coin to speculate on it!!!
and that will be the right time to increase the mining on burst for the difficulty dump ;-)
December 06, 2014, 09:51:41 AM
People I'm afraid that BURST was raped by botnet now 
I simply can't find any better explanation for the huge diff increase last week. BURST botnet is much more difficult to detect than CPU/GPU botnet.
That pretty sucks.
I simply can't find any better explanation for the huge diff increase last week. BURST botnet is much more difficult to detect than CPU/GPU botnet.
That pretty sucks.
if so, i think this is also not bad. This shows me, that the someone is betting in the future of this coin, that the price will rise. Why such an effort to let a botnet mine a coin, that could not be sold, because none of the exchange has a usefull volume....
there are so much other ways to make more and instant profit with a botnet, as mine this coin.....
December 06, 2014, 09:50:13 AM
OMG!
I get 680 burst from pool.burstcoin.io on 4TB plots for last 24 hours!
I get 680 burst from pool.burstcoin.io on 4TB plots for last 24 hours!
did you check the difficulty increase in the last days??
get check here!!!
http://burstcoin.eu/charts/estimated-network-size
here ise the naswer!!!
December 06, 2014, 09:47:30 AM
People I'm afraid that BURST was raped by botnet now
I simply can't find any better explanation for the huge diff increase last week. BURST botnet is much more difficult to detect than CPU/GPU botnet.
That pretty sucks.
I have a strong suspicion that a botnet maybe involved...I simply can't find any better explanation for the huge diff increase last week. BURST botnet is much more difficult to detect than CPU/GPU botnet.
That pretty sucks.
it's so easy to implement burst mining on a botnet and you couldn't tell for a while...
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