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i guess java showing 3200 nonces/minute is the fail.
have you compared the filesize and time needed for creation?
i only plot on linux and i still get 2x faster plots compared on time needed to create the files.
I'm just going off of the displayed nonces/minute.
The filesize on Windows appears to remain at 0kb (only actually displays the size if I kill the plotting, strange... but it appears to be plotting just fine)
I haven't sat down and actually timed linux or windows, but they seemed about the same (to me at least)

Right now I have the Dual Xeon (8cores on Windows) plotting a 2TB file and my AMD Phenom II (4cores on Linux) Plotting a 4TB file... we will see who wins Tongue

Watched the file size growing on the Linux (4core) box and it is growing at ~0.65GB/minute...
~0.65GB/minute * 60 = 39GB/hour
4000 / 39 = 102 hours for 4TB
102 hours = 4.25/days

Yeah, this may take a while Undecided
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Cool Story Bro.  Cool

Glad you enjoyed it. Figured I'd share with the community... and tell it at parties and whatnot.

sure. I tell share your story on Burst Conference / Summit 2015.
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do i have to generate the plot in one go...can i generate 10 plots of 100 GB instead of single 1 Tb ..because it takes lot of time to generate a single one and if something happens in between and it closes..all time is wasted..

I think I read in the readme file included in the miner, the bigger the plot the less stress when mining starts but I think you can plot 100GB at a time just need to set your nonce after every plot is done.

So first plot 0 400,000
    Second plot: 400,000 800,000
    Third plot:    800,000 1,200,000

and so on. 800,000=200GB.
You plot numbers would actually be this:
{WalletNumber} 0 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 400000 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 800000 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 1200000 400000 {stagger} {cores}

ex:
Plot1: 11111222223333344444 0 400000 5000
Plot2: 11111222223333344444 400000 400000 5000
Plot3: 11111222223333344444 800000 400000 5000
Plot4: 11111222223333344444 1200000 400000 5000
Plot5: 11111222223333344444 1600000 400000 5000
...and so on (Each of the above plots is ~100GB)

shouldn't plot2 start from 405000? since 400,000 was already plotted?

Also just wondering, how do you calculate nonce/min? I got mine set a 1000 but its not doing 1000 per minute takes a couple of minutes for a 1000. How do you guys know which nonce to set? Trial and error? or just set it as high as possible?

Thanks.
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So. Why my xeon with 8 core male just 1000 nonché a minute? I nave set 8 in generate.
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burst is dead, i lost so much money on this Embarrassed Cry

You should do a stand up comedy act so we can boo you.

so we are the only ones to have the mem issue?

No same problem for me, with two disk, one miner close automatically after a few times (sometimes 10min sometime 2 hours). For the moment, the only thing i found to let it run, it's to convert the .bat in a .exe and launch an app that allow to automatically restart the exe when crash....

Apparently, the biggest the disk his, more often the problem appear.

Could you please share how to convert to ext and use an app to automatically restart the exe when crash. I am having this issues frequently in one system!

To convert your bat on exe, use the free software "bat to exe converter", then to relaunch your exe when crash, use "knas restarter" free too.

On wich pool you are?
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OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately Undecided

Cool Story Bro.  Cool
i guess java showing 3200 nonces/minute is the fail.
have you compared the filesize and time needed for creation?
i only plot on linux and i still get 2x faster plots compared on time needed to create the files.
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Activity: 164
Merit: 100
Cool Story Bro.  Cool

Glad you enjoyed it. Figured I'd share with the community... and tell it at parties and whatnot.
full member
Activity: 164
Merit: 100

OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately Undecided

What is your cpu and ram?

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad-Core 3.4GHz and 4GB RAM

I also tried on an old server board I had laying around with 8 cores (2 CPUs, both Quad-Core Xeons @ 1.6Ghz) and that is only slightly faster than the above system at ~3500 nonces/minute
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Activity: 164
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do i have to generate the plot in one go...can i generate 10 plots of 100 GB instead of single 1 Tb ..because it takes lot of time to generate a single one and if something happens in between and it closes..all time is wasted..

I think I read in the readme file included in the miner, the bigger the plot the less stress when mining starts but I think you can plot 100GB at a time just need to set your nonce after every plot is done.

So first plot 0 400,000
    Second plot: 400,000 800,000
    Third plot:    800,000 1,200,000

and so on. 800,000=200GB.
You plot numbers would actually be this:
{WalletNumber} 0 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 400000 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 800000 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 1200000 400000 {stagger} {cores}

ex:
Plot1: 11111222223333344444 0 400000 5000
Plot2: 11111222223333344444 400000 400000 5000
Plot3: 11111222223333344444 800000 400000 5000
Plot4: 11111222223333344444 1200000 400000 5000
Plot5: 11111222223333344444 1600000 400000 5000
...and so on (Each of the above plots is ~100GB)
hero member
Activity: 868
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OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately Undecided

Cool Story Bro.  Cool
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OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately Undecided

What is your cpu and ram?
newbie
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it makes me more productive! i swear, instead of playing games watching videos or other things i generate plots

What kind of main processor do you have? How many nonces did you get per minute?
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Activity: 164
Merit: 100

OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately Undecided
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 500
do i have to generate the plot in one go...can i generate 10 plots of 100 GB instead of single 1 Tb ..because it takes lot of time to generate a single one and if something happens in between and it closes..all time is wasted..

I think I read in the readme file included in the miner, the bigger the plot the less stress when mining starts but I think you can plot 100GB at a time just need to set your nonce after every plot is done.

So first plot 0 400,000
    Second plot: 400,000 800,000
    Third plot:    800,000 1,200,000

and so on. 800,000=200GB.
full member
Activity: 145
Merit: 100
We need PROP pool with deadline 100k-200k.
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Activity: 145
Merit: 100
do i have to generate the plot in one go...can i generate 10 plots of 100 GB instead of single 1 Tb ..because it takes lot of time to generate a single one and if something happens in between and it closes..all time is wasted..
legendary
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i'm still stuck on this "ram sucking" issue, i tried to disable superfetch, but still nothing
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Add me on Twitter! @AnonOnAMoose
Looking for miners (ASIC ones especially!)
http://burstmultipool.com!
scrypt: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:3333
sha: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:5555
x11: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:4444
Keccak: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:6666
scrypt-n: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:2222


Well done! Everyone hop on the multi pool!!!
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1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?


For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum?  0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

Right. Its the only way to mine right now on Windows.
One miner per drive/partition

Not exactly. NTFS supports links like unix filesystems.
See mklink.exe command.
Its possible to gather files from 1000 partitions to one directory
hero member
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i have made a HOW TO movie on youtube ,
Feedback is welcome as it was my first youtube unload and i am still new to burst coin my self

http://youtu.be/oYlf1xFTHvs

Awesome! Name of the music? Please no Darude Sandstorm jokes  Tongue

Nice that he put out a video, but it would have been better to actually speak out the procedures and tips on setup. Also, it would have better served to just make a passphrase in the text file inside the PoC miner folder oppose to one generated in the browser.

thanks
I will update it . I have the man flu atm so i will add voice when i get over this dam flu  Angry

i forgot you can add the paraphrase in the folder i will update this later


It's just my critique, but thanks for contributing to the community... Cool
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