So when will there be a vote on stop digging?
It's too late now.
Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 216. (Read 1151373 times)
November 29, 2015, 11:26:57 AM
It's too late now.
November 29, 2015, 11:19:29 AM
So when will there be a vote on stop digging?
November 29, 2015, 10:56:36 AM
Our CLAM - The CLAMour Specification
Looking great. Thanks for all the work put into this. Not sure about the 10,000 block time frame though, it doesn't seem like enough time for a real vote to occur. Is the Clamour name a take on the word clamor?
Yeah, "clamour" is the British English equivalent of "clamor." For the sake of brevity, it started as "clamor," but "clamour" has the words "our" and "clam" in it.
About the 10,000 block frame: That's a moving frame. There is no deadline for votes; instead, whenever >50% of blocks staked in any 10,000 block window express support of a petition, that's considered a majority. So in effect, the vote can occur any time.
November 29, 2015, 10:42:55 AM
They will stake separately, but may be recombined when you stake, depending on your config.
So, how do you set the config so they won't recombine? Thanks.
Don't have a client available at the moment, but it should be listed with the other execution flags.
EDIT:
Can set -combinelimit, re: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/92b99052b055802ae80dcc996155f85f417d5618
Can set -splitsize, re: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/3f15194aa8ca2ad22e538554813a3967ca8596fe
Thanks!
so for example..
If I have output amounts as piles of 5.. and I set ./clamd -combinelimit=5 (set to 5 or less?)
Then it won't combine into larger piles right?
November 29, 2015, 10:22:21 AM
They will stake separately, but may be recombined when you stake, depending on your config.
So, how do you set the config so they won't recombine? Thanks.
Don't have a client available at the moment, but it should be listed with the other execution flags.
EDIT:
Can set -combinelimit, re: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/92b99052b055802ae80dcc996155f85f417d5618
Can set -splitsize, re: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/3f15194aa8ca2ad22e538554813a3967ca8596fe
November 29, 2015, 10:16:05 AM
They will stake separately, but may be recombined when you stake, depending on your config.
So, how do you set the config so they won't recombine?
Thanks.
^bump .. does anyone else happen to know?
November 29, 2015, 09:37:58 AM
btw i bought coffee from this guy http://cryptomercado.com/collections/all w/ clams (via email ultimately) and he claims it is in the mail
so, it's not just 'jd' anymore
so, it's not just 'jd' anymore
You should have gotten an email with the USPS tracking number.
November 29, 2015, 09:02:00 AM
The CLAMour voting system looks interesting. Good work!
About the current/future whale diggers, one possibility I haven't heard mentioned would be very simple and would dilute the initial distribution: increase the reward. There's at least a precedent for changing the reward system in Clams.
Maybe I'll make a CLAMour petition to increase the reward from 1 clam per block to, oh, say, 100 clams per block. This would increase the supply by about a million clams a week. Before long the initial distribution would be a relatively small percent of the total supply.
This would likely be terrible for the price. It might push us below 0.001. (<- That's intended as dark humour. I have looked at the price today.)
About the current/future whale diggers, one possibility I haven't heard mentioned would be very simple and would dilute the initial distribution: increase the reward. There's at least a precedent for changing the reward system in Clams.
Maybe I'll make a CLAMour petition to increase the reward from 1 clam per block to, oh, say, 100 clams per block. This would increase the supply by about a million clams a week. Before long the initial distribution would be a relatively small percent of the total supply.
This would likely be terrible for the price. It might push us below 0.001. (<- That's intended as dark humour. I have looked at the price today.)
November 29, 2015, 08:43:12 AM
curious, has anyone approached you about negotiating a lump buyout of your remaining Clams? I'd guess you have about 200,000 based on that sell order that was at .0045 on Poloniex. Perhaps a coalition of JD investors/gamblers would be interested in getting a lot at a fixed price.
curious did post this earlier, so he does seem interested in selling privately:
By the way, if anyone wants to buy clams OTC, let me know.
November 29, 2015, 08:41:47 AM
What do you mean dumped? He has not dumped 1/3 of his stash and CLAM price is already almost 10% of what it was 2 months ago. Ok, since all of you think my suggestions are inadequate and this digging and dumping is actually a good thing for CLAM, fine, so be it. Let us see how low it can go. I will not mention this issue anymore cause the community obviously thinks differently. Happy dumping to the digger.
You're obviously very passionate about this. Are you passionate enough about it to use the new voting system, or you'd rather just complain on forums?
Why would I start a voting campaign over something only I think should be done? Besides one or two guys here, most of the community thinks digging and dumping is the best way to move forward. Ok, I respect this, majority rules.
November 29, 2015, 08:22:21 AM
What do you mean dumped? He has not dumped 1/3 of his stash and CLAM price is already almost 10% of what it was 2 months ago. Ok, since all of you think my suggestions are inadequate and this digging and dumping is actually a good thing for CLAM, fine, so be it. Let us see how low it can go. I will not mention this issue anymore cause the community obviously thinks differently. Happy dumping to the digger.
You're obviously very passionate about this. Are you passionate enough about it to use the new voting system, or you'd rather just complain on forums?
November 29, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
They will stake separately, but may be recombined when you stake, depending on your config.
So, how do you set the config so they won't recombine?
Thanks.
November 29, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
i think u should vote to stop the bleeding
November 29, 2015, 07:44:05 AM
curious, has anyone approached you about negotiating a lump buyout of your remaining Clams? I'd guess you have about 200,000 based on that sell order that was at .0045 on Poloniex. Perhaps a coalition of JD investors/gamblers would be interested in getting a lot at a fixed price.
November 29, 2015, 07:40:41 AM
Our CLAM - The CLAMour Specification
Looking great. Thanks for all the work put into this. Not sure about the 10,000 block time frame though, it doesn't seem like enough time for a real vote to occur. Is the Clamour name a take on the word clamor?
November 29, 2015, 07:32:46 AM
Doog is time for your snapshot! You don't need these.
November 29, 2015, 07:06:46 AM
By removing the core distribution process from clam, would kill this coin.
completely agree, why changing the rules..set up rules should never be changed.
Okay, i agree..i was completely sarcastic..you think 0.009 is the bottom line?
Just wait for the next digger..
if people think its not about the price, what then?
the spread of clam to be used on many other sites than JD?
That we dont have, 2-3 other gambling sites and thats it..
it doesnt need to be a genius to realize keeping the dig feature in the coin, will repeat this mess we have now over and over.
Just my opinion and apologize upfront if i sound a bit defensive.
Greetings, Chuck
November 29, 2015, 06:49:32 AM
I m not angry, I m just disappointed. Cause every great project in crypto gets destroyed by the greed, stupidity and selfishness.
True words.
Some of us are angry with whale digger because he is greedy, his dumping is destroying coin, etc.
So, some of us wants to disable digging option because they are greedy and when they are seeing the price goes down they start screaming: "We owns the clams, we are the 'early adopters' and everyone else have to buy clams from us (evil laugh)"
Removing the dig option kills this coin. Because coin is not just about price but also about people willing to use it.
And I am saying it as owner of not trivial amount of clams. (Also I have some undug on some vaulted bitcoin paperwallets)
I am not happy to see price going down, but I feel its unfair to change rules when they started being unpleasant to "us".
If you can't take the volatility of an altcoin you shouldn't even be here. You still have the option of cashing out before the digger dumps the rest of his stash. Give the market some time to shift into place.
Clam will end up being around 10k sats before it starts rising again.
What do you mean dumped? He has not dumped 1/3 of his stash and CLAM price is already almost 10% of what it was 2 months ago. Ok, since all of you think my suggestions are inadequate and this digging and dumping is actually a good thing for CLAM, fine, so be it. Let us see how low it can go. I will not mention this issue anymore cause the community obviously thinks differently. Happy dumping to the digger.
November 29, 2015, 06:04:17 AM
I m not angry, I m just disappointed. Cause every great project in crypto gets destroyed by the greed, stupidity and selfishness.
True words.
Some of us are angry with whale digger because he is greedy, his dumping is destroying coin, etc.
So, some of us wants to disable digging option because they are greedy and when they are seeing the price goes down they start screaming: "We owns the clams, we are the 'early adopters' and everyone else have to buy clams from us (evil laugh)"
Removing the dig option kills this coin. Because coin is not just about price but also about people willing to use it.
And I am saying it as owner of not trivial amount of clams. (Also I have some undug on some vaulted bitcoin paperwallets)
I am not happy to see price going down, but I feel its unfair to change rules when they started being unpleasant to "us".
If you can't take the volatility of an altcoin you shouldn't even be here. You still have the option of cashing out before the digger dumps the rest of his stash. Give the market some time to shift into place.
Clam will end up being around 10k sats before it starts rising again.
November 29, 2015, 03:39:30 AM
I m not angry, I m just disappointed. Cause every great project in crypto gets destroyed by the greed, stupidity and selfishness.
True words.
Some of us are angry with whale digger because he is greedy, his dumping is destroying coin, etc.
So, some of us wants to disable digging option because they are greedy and when they are seeing the price goes down they start screaming: "We owns the clams, we are the 'early adopters' and everyone else have to buy clams from us (evil laugh)"
Removing the dig option kills this coin. Because coin is not just about price but also about people willing to use it.
And I am saying it as owner of not trivial amount of clams. (Also I have some undug on some vaulted bitcoin paperwallets)
I am not happy to see price going down, but I feel its unfair to change rules when they started being unpleasant to "us".
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