Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 238. (Read 1151373 times)

So now everyone involved in CLAMs has a negative trust next to their name because you kids have thrown the toys out of the pram?
The trust system here is stupid, disagreements shouldn't result in negative trust which will undermine the whole CLAM project.

What are the ideas for the choices in the vote so far?

Everyone "gets" it.
You aren't happy.

If you have something on-topic and relevant to say about CLAM.
Say it.

Otherwise, please move on.

It's my code.... When you do work for someone who paid for it... it's no long YOUR code.

I paid for it and I have a copy.  

It will be open sourced for the community by me.  Everyone should want to assist people in growing the CLAM network and digging their coins.

My stance on digging is still the same even without the website and being essentially scammed by xploited.

Respectfully it is not your code to open source. I do have our communications specifying such.

If you want to be pety, so be it. I open souce MY code to the community.

ClamChecker.com is now closing and I will open source the code for anyone to build a digging assistance service easily.

I still support not taking away peoples free 4.6 CLAMS regardless of not having this service any more.

Faucets in general aren't.

Frankly, it is a problem with the fee system, which should charge a larger premium for large numbers of tiny sub CLAM outputs.
They bloat the chain for the entire network, similar to changes made in BTC over Satoshi Dice.

Fees are designed to prevent bloat and DDoS attacks.
They are insufficient at the moment to provide adequate protection.

This was the original reason the "complicated" version of my fee system changes were designed.
The idea had nothing at all to do with "the digger", but just happened to have an additional effect of blunting the situation.

Which, is why it was brought up during the conversation about "the digger".

what the hell is that supposed to mean? So what not only is the digger a problem for clam but so are faucets now too?

You stick your finger into the air, and test the wind.

If it suits you, you want a "vote".
Don't you remember your BTTalk poll to comandeer the SuperClam account?

If it doesn't suit you, it's "BS".
Is there anything that you believe without it personally benefiting you?
Purely because it is logical or "right"?



You can keep your lies.
You were repeatedly asked to send out faucet payments in batches.
You responded by throwing yet another fit.

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They improved their methodology of sweeping dust.
That is an important change they needed to make anyways.

That doesn't change the fact that you were informed of what your faucets were doing to other services in the community and responded negatively.

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It is comical to me how you change your position depending on what will benefit you the most personally.

Correction: it doesn't make sense to you.
Refer back to: "If it suits you".

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CLAM's success is entirely your doing.
Thank you.
/s

If the people involved in this community had spent half of the time they've spent babysitting you, on the project itself instead...
I don't believe you have been a net positive.

You've contributed; but, the venom you bring is hardly worth a faucet and second dig service.

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No, but my creativecuriosity account IS.

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This is likely the most ironic part.
I would likely personally "vote" for "No Change".

You would know that if you had paid attention.

I'm trying to be fair, nice and not a turd burger.  These are real concerns of myself and other people I speak with privately.

My network spamming faucets are the largest enablers of CLAM on the market.  Thousands of people rely on us to get a little free taste of JD... it's hard to say how many people we have brought into CLAM just by giving them a chance if they weren't around May 12, 2014 for that free chance.


Do it .

If you give me a guide line of "set" rules then we will follow them or close the businesses.  No biggie... just do what you are going to do and don't BS us with voting.

Sucks to be following the rules and developers throw wrenches in things .


Those shitcoin exchanges didn't have their wallets set up right... that was entirely my fault.


 

If you believed in what you are doing ... why are we taking a vote to kill it?

No one believes you that it wasn't for money gain on your end... it doesn't make any sense.


I made money on my work.  You think you'd have some respect for the people brought in most the major investors and made your shitty little project have some life/services.


And I'm sure this is your first Bitcointalk account.  


With my tinfoil hat and everything... surely you can see where I'm coming from and why it looks like shit.  I mean we've had this friggin talk before earlier this year when I had a metric fuckton of Clamcoins.

You've been nothing but a burden for me since day almost one.  You've never helped me out and have always been jelly because you felt like I made money off "you" when really it was good trading and hard work.

Up the fees to a dollar, remove digging and do what you will!  La resistance!

See what happens?
You try to be fair and nice and the angry network spamming faucet operator accuses you of cheating.

I've been meaning to fix the fee system to prevent the penny bloat attacks your faucets implement.
Maybe that will be the next petition/vote.
Should have done so immediately after the FIRST exchange wallet you put out of commission.
Or atleast, the SECOND.

The amount of work we've put into the project as volunteers because we simply believe in what we're doing.
After all the money you've made on the back of our work and charity, a person would think you'd have some respect.

The chain is public; look at the data.
I wasn't even aware crypto existed when "the Digger" created his/her wallets.

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Alas...

BayAreaCoins will be BayAreaCoins.

Thanks for that BAC.
Remember that the next time you want me to bend over backwards and help you out.

I will participate of course with whatever fuckery y'all choose to do of course.

I can just see why a developer with a massive stash of pre made BTC/DOGE wallets for CLAM would like the vote to be based on how many coins ppl own... seems sketchy and feels murky voting with votes based on a your financial status.

There obviously isn't consensus and these different tactics of ramming unwanted shit down our throats six ways from Sunday is getting old & shaking investor confidence to the core... Leave CLAM how it is and lets move forward with interesting stuff like staking addresses through signing rather than a priv key ect.

You don't agree with the network voting on development priorities.
Noted.

However, if you care about the result of a petition, it would benefit you to participate.
Your choice.

thank god I was sitting on the toilet already because I just shit myself

You don't say...

Basically however you can spin it to get your way is fine right?  Creative is here to do your dirty work for you, so you don't have to be the on directly spitting in peoples faces and losing investor confidence... Creative has been doing that since I've heard of CLAM .

Y'all are going to keep pounding at this thing till peoples gifted CLAMs are removed.

Be it voting, new coin or other trickery.

I'd never buy my Clamcoins back just to vote with a few shitcoin devs and a power tripping Bitcoiner.  Anyone who would sink $10,000 into voting is a fucktard IMO.  The rich should never have more vote than the poor.  Creative and I had this talk when I owned a huge chunk of the network... we both agreed it was bad news bears, but now when it is "needed" to push a highly questionable fork that obviously doesn't have consensus .... well tada  .

I plan on voting with my services and cranking the faucets transactions up even more... hopefully voting is based on transactions because we can handle that... I think we created the most CLAM transactions as well out of any service at this point.

Way she goes I guess

Doogcoin.org too.

If the vote doesn't go the way Dooglus wants he will create his own coin I'm sure.  This is just him trying to let Creative do his dirty work for him, but she's a bit of a scrub IMO.  Not overly worried about it.

Most people I speak to privately have a strong distrust for CreativeClam (SuperCLAM) and we all think she is the digger of at least one big dig.

I strongly considered having a PI keep an eye on her when I was more involved with CLAMS, but now days... meh.

can someone get a blockchain record for this? It's the diggers CLAM address:
http://khashier.com/address/xBwGnpTefKqyHn6ZizJzp17zFmjGLQsv7S

actually, it belongs to poloniex, and I want to see how much he's dumped (he's digging directly to his address).

you mean bay bought doogcoin.com for nothing now?



there goes 3000 clam bay