The majority so far want to leave it as is and I respect that and will even rally behind it. There is clearly a lot of passion in the community, a little discontent but not much. So i'll keep trying to come up with ideas and present them here for discussion as a healthy community should. If anything I think this brings together and more tight-knit than before. Thanks for the feedback everyone and keep it coming. Even if you're against an idea generally but see value in a certain aspect of it.
Smooth thanks for mentioning your service, I will be taking advantage of that in future. Also I am against the idea of off-site deals with this digger unless they are handled professionally and inclusive of any other wallets in his possession. You would not want to hand over 500 BTC and have the guy immediately start digging on another wallet, just as massive as the first.
Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 263. (Read 1151252 times)
November 09, 2015, 11:09:02 AM
November 09, 2015, 10:50:11 AM
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too.Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to.
I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution.
What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page?
We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one.
The dig rewards would look like this:
May 2014 - 4.6
May 2016 - 2.3
May 2020 - 1.15
May 2028 - 0.575
May 2044 - 0.2875
May 2076 - 0.14375
May 2140 - 0.071875
How about we take your coins and cut them in half next year instead.
Save CLAM by leaving it the fuck alone.
^ Second.
Here here!
November 09, 2015, 10:45:15 AM
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too.Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to.
I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution.
What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page?
We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one.
The dig rewards would look like this:
May 2014 - 4.6
May 2016 - 2.3
May 2020 - 1.15
May 2028 - 0.575
May 2044 - 0.2875
May 2076 - 0.14375
May 2140 - 0.071875
How about we take your coins and cut them in half next year instead.
Save CLAM by leaving it the fuck alone.
November 09, 2015, 10:43:22 AM
c. some kind of decay in value of undug CLAMs over time
This already exists. If you dig and stake, your CLAMs increase by about 4% per month currently.
Assuming you have a sufficient number to actually stake, due to the lottery-style staking.
You can stake in a pool. I've been offering to stake for people at no fee whatsoever (in order to try to decentralize the network from the current situation where JD has the vast majority of the stake), which will generate reasonably consistent daily income.
November 09, 2015, 10:42:16 AM
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too.Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to.
I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution.
What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page?
We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one.
The dig rewards would look like this:
May 2014 - 4.6
May 2016 - 2.3
May 2020 - 1.15
May 2028 - 0.575
May 2044 - 0.2875
May 2076 - 0.14375
May 2140 - 0.071875
Ya I couldn't agree with this either because 2044 isn't a good year for me...
You aren't going to rob people of THEIR "paper wallet" Clamcoins in this community I don't think.
Sry.Go try to get Bitcoin to remove their block rewards.
November 09, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
Oh you guys still debating over changing the digging rules ?
As an investor, I'd like a fair deal (off exchange transaction with Doog ?) with the digger. Both good from him (selling clams at a fixed price) and the community. But we can't force him and I don't know if Doog would have enough BTC.
As an investor, I'd like a fair deal (off exchange transaction with Doog ?) with the digger. Both good from him (selling clams at a fixed price) and the community. But we can't force him and I don't know if Doog would have enough BTC.
November 09, 2015, 09:24:12 AM
c. some kind of decay in value of undug CLAMs over time
This already exists. If you dig and stake, your CLAMs increase by about 4% per month currently.
Assuming you have a sufficient number to actually stake, due to the lottery-style staking.
November 09, 2015, 09:23:23 AM
a. leave everything as it is
b. disallow all digging
c. some kind of decay in value of undug CLAMs over time
d. CC's very complicated and involved change
e. CC's quick and simple change
They'd need to be specified in detail...
IMO a), b), e) can be voted right now,
c) , d) also can be voted, but if choosen - specification and detalisation could be done later via additional voting.
So my suggestion is to make voting as soon as possible. Can't see my CLAM holdings becomes nothing. So why we need waste time preparing complicated solution if it even might not be choosen by community?
November 09, 2015, 09:06:52 AM
I really don't think there's any need to change the dig rewards. There's already a natural inflation that's built into the system that penalizes people who dig later on. If you dig earlier, you're going to be able to get more stake rewards. And that really adds up.
November 09, 2015, 08:56:10 AM
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too.Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to.
I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution.
What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page?
We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one.
The dig rewards would look like this:
May 2014 - 4.6
May 2016 - 2.3
May 2020 - 1.15
May 2028 - 0.575
May 2044 - 0.2875
May 2076 - 0.14375
May 2140 - 0.071875
I personally would be unhappy with that return proposed for 2076. Messes with my plans.
November 09, 2015, 08:49:28 AM
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too.Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to.
I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution.
What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page?
We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one.
The dig rewards would look like this:
May 2014 - 4.6
May 2016 - 2.3
May 2020 - 1.15
May 2028 - 0.575
May 2044 - 0.2875
May 2076 - 0.14375
May 2140 - 0.071875
November 09, 2015, 08:31:40 AM
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too.Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to.
November 09, 2015, 06:11:29 AM
What is best online clam wallet? I just do not want to download on my PC.
Hi raaajlucky,
You can use DirectBet Playing Wallet.
You can move funds in and out of your playing wallet free of charge. We cover the miner fees !
All withdrawals are Instant.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
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Thank you very much and I will try your wallet
November 09, 2015, 01:35:52 AM
Hello ClamCoin members, i had questions about spec.
1. Confirms received?
2. Confirms rewards?
3. Minimum age till mature?
4. Block target interval?
5 Max coin cap?
1. Confirms received?
2. Confirms rewards?
3. Minimum age till mature?
4. Block target interval?
5 Max coin cap?
November 09, 2015, 12:24:15 AM
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
November 08, 2015, 11:46:49 PM
clam still going down, im thinking to sell all my coin i need money
November 08, 2015, 11:27:54 PM
Speaking of Directbet.
We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM.
We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM.
you forgot to add www.bustaclam.com to the list. bustaclam 2.0 is going live anyday now where you can invest clam in it.
Ah shit you're right.
Thanks!
November 08, 2015, 10:23:43 PM
Speaking of Directbet.
We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM.
We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM.
you forgot to add www.bustaclam.com to the list. bustaclam 2.0 is going live anyday now where you can invest clam in it.
November 08, 2015, 08:49:03 PM
I hope CLAM will rise up after these terrible days, i love this Alt because is still strong after the big BTC evaluation.
CLAM is a very resilient altcoin will definitely bounce back. If it is down, there is no other way to go but up!
November 08, 2015, 07:49:02 PM
But, how about this for an idea? And it's just a thought I had, not a plan I intend to put into action. Comments appreciated:
Anyway, it's just a thought. Let me know what you think...
Anyway, it's just a thought. Let me know what you think...
Please don't do this Dooglus. It will forever make clam nothing more than a token for JD. While some argue that it is already that, at least it has the possibility to become more.
The developers designed clam and should stick with that framework unless there is a real threat or exploit. Everyone knew going in that something like this was a danger. Maybe if you thought it was one of the developers themselves that was doing this, e.g. one of them sent 10 doge to a million addresses, then it may make sense to do something like this to protect the community, but even then it would cause the coin to lose one of the main attractions it had to you using it at JD - New users probably already have some.
I do really appreciate you thinking about this though and your involvement in the clam community. Just-Dice is great.
Some of the other options may make sense, but it's not like this was not a recognized possibility going forward. I think Gambling Bad may be on to something with the buy wall idea.
EDIT: Also a question. I thought the dig whale had dug all of his clams when he imported his gazillion addresses into his client. So reducing the amount of clams per dig wont matter in this case, only in future cases?
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