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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 269. (Read 1151252 times)

legendary
Activity: 2674
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We will most likely be purchasing 30,000-100,000 fresh Clamcoins at a "loss" (this could change of course because of shit going on in life & other markets... but that is my goal.)

Why don't you make your buyin rates dynamic simply? Or do you want to check how the buyin rates change with the clamprice dropping? So you can choose your perfect rate for later?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
I can add 0.001btc to that 300btc buy wall if you need me
I think this will be very small
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
I think we have to do something doog. like try to contact the digger and make him an offer to dig all his clam and sell it all in 1 buy from us


make him a fair deal where he doesnt have to drag this out 6 months or more.
you know i love clam. but i see clam dying if we just try to wait it out
shhh we want cheap clams why yall do this lol.
it's already cheap atm i don't know how much more cheaper you want lol.
Yes i know, id buy them all if i could lol, the greed makes me want more but yeah it is.
legendary
Activity: 1612
Merit: 1001
I think we have to do something doog. like try to contact the digger and make him an offer to dig all his clam and sell it all in 1 buy from us


make him a fair deal where he doesnt have to drag this out 6 months or more.
you know i love clam. but i see clam dying if we just try to wait it out
shhh we want cheap clams why yall do this lol.
it's already cheap atm i don't know how much more cheaper you want lol.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
I think we have to do something doog. like try to contact the digger and make him an offer to dig all his clam and sell it all in 1 buy from us


make him a fair deal where he doesnt have to drag this out 6 months or more.




you know i love clam. but i see clam dying if we just try to wait it out
shhh we want cheap clams why yall do this lol.
hero member
Activity: 905
Merit: 502
I miss dooglus
I think we have to do something doog. like try to contact the digger and make him an offer to dig all his clam and sell it all in 1 buy from us


make him a fair deal where he doesnt have to drag this out 6 months or more.




you know i love clam. but i see clam dying if we just try to wait it out
hero member
Activity: 905
Merit: 502
I miss dooglus
I can add 0.001btc to that 300btc buy wall if you need me





legendary
Activity: 4004
Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
No one is going anywhere - this is our network.

In case you forgot Wink Tongue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4TTedpirFs

(teasing)

When this is all finished we can thank the digger for increasing the money supply and hence the coefficient for 'market cap' Grin

I'm so happy to see you say this.

I agree 1000%.
legendary
Activity: 4004
Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
Once the price falls below 0.001 per CLAM, your offer of 0.005 BTC per private key means that you will be losing money every time someone uses your service. How many digs are you prepared to handle if you're losing 0.002 BTC for each one? Let's say the digger has 50k private keys left. Would you buy them off him for 0.005 BTC each, losing 100 BTC in the process? I think that's what you have claimed in the past, that you will continue paying 0.005 BTC per private key even if it means taking a loss.

We will most likely be purchasing 30,000-100,000 fresh Clamcoins at a "loss" (this could change of course because of shit going on in life & other markets... but that is my goal.)

Here is our hot for purchasing fresh clammies & paying affiliates: https://blockchain.info/address/18U3uQqGviBHAfExC8iQQE9i6mcUtkc5q8

"Holding firm" doesn't really mean anything. There's no reason to try to keep the price artificially high in the face of constant sell pressure. It is best to allow the price to fall so as little value as possible leaves the community. Buying private keys for over 100% of their value is even more silly than offering to buy them for less than 20% of their value.

Sometimes you have to "lose" today to "win" tomorrow with trading.

It reminds me when I first bought into CLAM... I "lost" over 50% because I slapped the Ask, but if I would have only sat on the Bid then I wouldn't have acquired the number of Clamcoins that I did... Well looking back at that "50% loss" I must say I'm fairly pleased Smiley.

(My earlier post wasn't intended as being shitty or anything... this market just needs some confidence and I truly feel my # is fair and accurate... I've felt that way for a while now.  I totally could be wrong of course... I'm not a know it all and time will tell I suppose.)
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided
And yet, the asks spread thinner.  
Currently, 44 BTC in purchases to a price of 0.01 BTC.
At a certain point a large portion of the entire CLAM moneysupply is purchasable for a 'relatively' small amount of BTC.
Not attempting to make price predictions - simply pointing out the fact that the distribution is no less conservative.
Fundamentals haven't drastically changed with the exception of a large amount of CLAM, which already existed, coming into circulation via claims.
Need a 300 Bitcoin wall @ .001....
Someone needs to nut up and get this shit done.  (I got my bid in my service)
I'm standing tall on it and I expect other people around the project to hold firm or else all your digs are belong to Clamchecker!   Tongue

No one is going anywhere - this is our network.

When this is all finished we can thank the digger for increasing the money supply and hence the coefficient for 'market cap' Grin

EDIT:
My 142% biased prediction that no one should pay any attention to: 5 million market cap within two months of the digger finishing  Cool
Finally someone that agrees that this is good for clam, and for all of us who want cheap clams, after the digger we will only need to worry bout bac.
Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided

And yet, the asks spread thinner. 
Currently, 44 BTC in purchases to a price of 0.01 BTC.

At a certain point a large portion of the entire CLAM moneysupply is purchasable for a 'relatively' small amount of BTC.
Not attempting to make price predictions - simply pointing out the fact that the distribution is no less conservative.

Fundamentals haven't drastically changed with the exception of a large amount of CLAM, which already existed, coming into circulation via claims.

Need a 300 Bitcoin wall @ .001....

Someone needs to nut up and get this shit done.  (I got my bid in my service)

I'm standing tall on it and I expect other people around the project to hold firm or else all your digs are belong to Clamchecker!   Tongue


Yeah im pretty sure there will be some support there.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 503
CLAMs prise go to 0.0009 or less
see it soon
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
I find it hard sometimes to understand what you're saying.

Need a 300 Bitcoin wall @ .001....

Who needs a 300 BTC wall, and why? It sounds like you're encouraging us to buy the digger's CLAMs for more than it will be necessary to spend. Who does that benefit?

Someone needs to nut up and get this shit done.  (I got my bid in my service)

"Nut up" as in "grow a pair"? It's not fear that's stopping me from paying 0.001 for all the digger's remaining CLAMs. I think he's going to end up selling them cheaper than that. I don't see any reason to pay more than is necessary for them.

Once the price falls below 0.001 per CLAM, your offer of 0.005 BTC per private key means that you will be losing money every time someone uses your service. How many digs are you prepared to handle if you're losing 0.002 BTC for each one? Let's say the digger has 50k private keys left. Would you buy them off him for 0.005 BTC each, losing 100 BTC in the process? I think that's what you have claimed in the past, that you will continue paying 0.005 BTC per private key even if it means taking a loss.

I'm standing tall on it and I expect other people around the project to hold firm or else all your digs are belong to Clamchecker!   Tongue

"Holding firm" doesn't really mean anything. There's no reason to try to keep the price artificially high in the face of constant sell pressure. It is best to allow the price to fall so as little value as possible leaves the community. Buying private keys for over 100% of their value is even more silly than offering to buy them for less than 20% of their value.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided
And yet, the asks spread thinner.  
Currently, 44 BTC in purchases to a price of 0.01 BTC.
At a certain point a large portion of the entire CLAM moneysupply is purchasable for a 'relatively' small amount of BTC.
Not attempting to make price predictions - simply pointing out the fact that the distribution is no less conservative.
Fundamentals haven't drastically changed with the exception of a large amount of CLAM, which already existed, coming into circulation via claims.
Need a 300 Bitcoin wall @ .001....
Someone needs to nut up and get this shit done.  (I got my bid in my service)
I'm standing tall on it and I expect other people around the project to hold firm or else all your digs are belong to Clamchecker!   Tongue

No one is going anywhere - this is our network.

When this is all finished we can thank the digger for increasing the money supply and hence the coefficient for 'market cap' Grin

EDIT:
My 142% biased prediction that no one should pay any attention to: 5 million market cap within two months of the digger finishing  Cool

When do you expect him to finish? Also, how do you know his total supply?

We know an upper bound on it (the amount of clams deposited in the initial distribution).  That may be large, but it's finite and in theory, it was expected to be hit sooner or later.  Everyone is fretting about uncertainty and whatnot, if someone digs up all the CLAMS, that removes uncertainty about how many are left to be dug.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1007
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Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided
And yet, the asks spread thinner.  
Currently, 44 BTC in purchases to a price of 0.01 BTC.
At a certain point a large portion of the entire CLAM moneysupply is purchasable for a 'relatively' small amount of BTC.
Not attempting to make price predictions - simply pointing out the fact that the distribution is no less conservative.
Fundamentals haven't drastically changed with the exception of a large amount of CLAM, which already existed, coming into circulation via claims.
Need a 300 Bitcoin wall @ .001....
Someone needs to nut up and get this shit done.  (I got my bid in my service)
I'm standing tall on it and I expect other people around the project to hold firm or else all your digs are belong to Clamchecker!   Tongue

No one is going anywhere - this is our network.

When this is all finished we can thank the digger for increasing the money supply and hence the coefficient for 'market cap' Grin

EDIT:
My 142% biased prediction that no one should pay any attention to: 5 million market cap within two months of the digger finishing  Cool

When do you expect him to finish? Also, how do you know his total supply?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1002
CLAM Developer
Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided
And yet, the asks spread thinner.  
Currently, 44 BTC in purchases to a price of 0.01 BTC.
At a certain point a large portion of the entire CLAM moneysupply is purchasable for a 'relatively' small amount of BTC.
Not attempting to make price predictions - simply pointing out the fact that the distribution is no less conservative.
Fundamentals haven't drastically changed with the exception of a large amount of CLAM, which already existed, coming into circulation via claims.
Need a 300 Bitcoin wall @ .001....
Someone needs to nut up and get this shit done.  (I got my bid in my service)
I'm standing tall on it and I expect other people around the project to hold firm or else all your digs are belong to Clamchecker!   Tongue

No one is going anywhere - this is our network.

When this is all finished we can thank the digger for increasing the money supply and hence the coefficient for 'market cap' Grin

EDIT:
My 142% biased prediction that no one should pay any attention to: 5 million market cap within two months of the digger finishing  Cool
legendary
Activity: 4004
Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided

And yet, the asks spread thinner.  
Currently, 44 BTC in purchases to a price of 0.01 BTC.

At a certain point a large portion of the entire CLAM moneysupply is purchasable for a 'relatively' small amount of BTC.
Not attempting to make price predictions - simply pointing out the fact that the distribution is no less conservative.

Fundamentals haven't drastically changed with the exception of a large amount of CLAM, which already existed, coming into circulation via claims.

Need a 300 Bitcoin wall @ .001....

Someone needs to nut up and get this shit done.  (I got my bid in my service)

I'm standing tall on it and I expect other people around the project to hold firm or else all your digs are belong to Clamchecker!   Tongue

hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1002
CLAM Developer
Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided

And yet, the asks spread thinner. 
Currently, 44 BTC in purchases to a price of 0.01 BTC.

At a certain point a large portion of the entire CLAM moneysupply is purchasable for a 'relatively' small amount of BTC.
Not attempting to make price predictions - simply pointing out the fact that the distribution is no less conservative.

Fundamentals haven't drastically changed with the exception of a large amount of CLAM, which already existed, coming into circulation via claims.
full member
Activity: 193
Merit: 100
Aaand it's dropping again.  Undecided
full member
Activity: 176
Merit: 100
Mighty Dub
I grabbed it from the link on the front of this thread.  It looks it is syncing after a restart and adding the nodes.  20 weeks behind now, I see higher network activity from clam-qt.  Thanks for your help.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1002
CLAM Developer
I downloaded the client earlier in the week and started syncing, but I am stuck at 21 weeks behind.  Can somebody provide me with a current list of nodes?  Thanks in advance.

If you have the newest version of the client, from the repository - it should automatically get an up-to-date list of active nodes.
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