[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 314.

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Unfortunately the implication is "anyone with 100,000 BTC addresses gets 460,000 CLAM", which seems a little less fair.

I don't think anyone would get me or creative to suggest the distribution was perfectly fair which is why we always worded it "the fairest distribution" which I continue to agree with.. that doesn't mean it doesn't have its problems.

Its impossible to be 100% fair, there are always tradeoffs.

No matter which distribution method you use you are going to end up with situation where some users have a larger percentage of stake then others. The goal was to limit that as much as possible while including as many crypto users as possible instantly into the fold.

While it is very frustrating for me to see someone potentially have 460, 000 CLAM (using your example), in my mind its still fair.

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pretty brutal for clam holders. any way to know what % of dug up clams have been moved (to exchanges?)

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Quote from: TheFuneral on August 25, 2015, 12:25:45 AM

How do we know it's the same person or one entity?

Is there some pattern in the digs that revels this?

Do you even read before posting?

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How do we know it's the same person or one entity?

Is there some pattern in the digs that revels this?

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Quote from: dooglus on August 24, 2015, 08:43:31 PM

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18:45:19 (965827) <@creativecuriosity> For fucks sake doog, choose a longer term dig image graph, lolz. That short term graph looks like a mountain, lmfao.

As requested, here's a longer term chart. Note the growth in the number dug at the beginning of December when JD relaunched with CLAM, and the vertical cliff at the beginning of January when a large LTC wallet was dug up:...

LOL

Funniest thing I've seen on this thread yet Cheesy

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Cheap CLAMs for everybody Grin

I have faith they will go back up. They always do. It is one less heavy hitter holding a bunch of CLAM over our heads now, or will be once this is all over.

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Quote from: kolloh on August 24, 2015, 10:00:30 PM

Quote from: forzendiablo on August 24, 2015, 09:59:28 PM

so theres no exploit to steal clams of others, just theres some big wallets with 100s of adresses right?

Yeah, no exploit. Just a user with a lot of addressing digging up.

Well its another buying opportunity for anyone that wants to reenter clam at its old stabilization range
Good time to double down as well

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then no worries Wink

i hold CLAM but also exchanged some to BTC and now put into MAPC ico - https://c-cex.com/?p=mapc-btc

seems like a safe bet at this point

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Quote from: forzendiablo on August 24, 2015, 09:59:28 PM

so theres no exploit to steal clams of others, just theres some big wallets with 100s of adresses right?

Yeah, no exploit. Just a user with a lot of addressing digging up.

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so theres no exploit to steal clams of others, just theres some big wallets with 100s of adresses right?

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I think I read on /r/bitcoin that a bunch of coins from MT Gox moved recently. Maybe whoever is in charge of those addresses is cashing in the clams.

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Quote from: galbros on August 24, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

While I'm sure some will complain, I think you made the correct decision to publish. This is a threat that has hung over clam since its inception and any other coin that mimics its distribution method. It will be interesting to see how clam community reacts to the first "dig whale".

We've had big digs before, and the market swallowed them up pretty well. But this one looks like it's going to be considerably bigger. Time will tell I guess.

Quote from: CryptoMrM on August 24, 2015, 09:28:47 PM

The problem with this is that the bag holder won't be an idiot, he'll wait for the price to go back up. This discovery is going to significantly hinder clam investment in the future and is ultimately an issue with the distribution strategy.

"Everyone with a BTC address gets 4.6 CLAM" sounds like a good, fair distribution.

Unfortunately the implication is "anyone with 100,000 BTC addresses gets 460,000 CLAM", which seems a little less fair.

It's going to be hard to know whether he has dumped at all now that others are presumably dumping too.

We've always known there were around 15 million CLAMs lying around waiting to be dug up. I guess in a sense this 3% is nothing compared to what could theoretically happen.

Quote from: forzendiablo on August 24, 2015, 09:36:44 PM

this means you extracted loads of free CLAMs now ?

Me? No. It means someone is digging up a load of free CLAMs. But it's not me. I'm left holding a buttload of CLAMs that are worth half of what they were worth a week ago.

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Quote from: galbros on August 24, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

Quote from: dooglus on August 24, 2015, 08:43:31 PM

I noticed this a few hours ago, couldn't decide whether I should publish it or not, and eventually decided I should. I hope I made the correct decision:

While I'm sure some will complain, I think you made the correct decision to publish. This is a threat that has hung over clam since its inception and any other coin that mimics its distribution method. It will be interesting to see how clam community reacts to the first "dig whale".

Really I don't think I had a choice. I could have kept the information to myself and sold my own CLAMs into the market, to people who didn't know what was about to happen, but that seems unfair. And the information would have become public soon enough anyway - the CLAM client logs the messages about which block CLAMs are being dug from in plain text, so someone else would have noticed it soon enough.

As of right now, the last 50 digs:

Code:

2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 29531e5395cb758d4d528d8553b464fb2f624f74ae8b163d65c9a246c3b9ab91:101 xTSTYS5XFMkrPb5rygprbJBjdSHkaSVe3n from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 7594092d31666f3bf2cf9e4fb0941b7c91ee3acbcc4d1f18dbf6dbfd8002387e:173 xJcNkdgdAQaPjqWdVNseMpdyqFNXzgjyDW from block 9116
2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 7594092d31666f3bf2cf9e4fb0941b7c91ee3acbcc4d1f18dbf6dbfd8002387e:99 x9yMPwFsaeovLJxBKfzbk11XiNJQqozDT3 from block 9116
2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 7594092d31666f3bf2cf9e4fb0941b7c91ee3acbcc4d1f18dbf6dbfd8002387e:6 xSeMPtttiA7jkTGjJz3pckyGYcVpZHXksK from block 9116
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:204 xHpzckBp8zWUFChNH4GggdVNpVjzomLm1J from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:220 xJpxLjXRoPUZUfKeGG8KtBZ8Tj7LurhCmy from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:147 x8UcoNmDgYbRkoMNfGZTR66JbfacmZBZCU from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:232 xUp7GCpT93r7GT7oCKV3VkLVTv3Z5RzPbS from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:252 xCQCfd6umxoSgajU7YZHz5rwHn99amRK7u from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:155 xLZTqbc9jC1kXacXzzheBYwvbc7bUx83Jy from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:260 xBCfuVBBjBMbzKQBKUJA3EjmFrkeAsJoWC from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:313 x8XtbsFT7H6WvvvbnWABnLih6LFDnQV8tm from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:212 xMA6rQzDhrZGautrDX5Q9cFzV6yEnHYFRP from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:274 xP9BqXumuQGmNXfvHgcTBt9QX6bgkn2QZ1 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:196 xVnjpPYSJAApheQ8RuACLKrCnHX6xFhtoD from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:356 xLhbgLgCwG1JdyYhFKAJFizpvS4j7hEDfo from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:198 xHmPeE87brq894uiLwajn5Yu5yi7adgpHj from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:227 x93waAVtJ8bCar3Rp7XNZW2kAoNchv1jTJ from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:224 xBvgLzEvbdXJ785QMbyZPd89PCRCRTNygQ from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:188 xN1g14Rc2sia3F81onysx3gWgaxXVAEx8c from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:4 xVR4XbBeMu79cqWPKaWTRcd9yqESgSJ1pF from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:216 xSBFybmgiuyGUzDDWsXNdyVk6AyG61coqV from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:126 xJvCUm1xLVvg6p5mQXhyqSbQwtVzV9XVfF from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:331 xQveVsmVajhdsL7GYq5NqB5Z8hU6fMAH4U from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:174 xCwc6G4poNMb9uFeAWaY2vJRJjwnywfKP8 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:345 xK46q87ChFGanw9w9qMDHeq6y1RNCAbPjX from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:29 xNyp7C4PcJkVUQqTuhqoBdTuFaHrPM6tSY from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:322 xWjpAYMu6AE759yL8D1NUcKp9MFhKJzWFo from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:197 xAJMSGT9et5rup3WtsG2aiCaQtFmkQdAeo from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:37 xQkBqZQKEb56RQQcbFRpXTmMWXWpwvXg8D from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:90 xSA9XWzoM7f7n3JiC41e2Z2R2rP23xBc9K from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:16 xBQmgDckmkJy7CzYqQzud6xWQs1EwkicB6 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:327 xE3NS8XKoq2sVNvjWBAZaSBuBPMmKKYf3y from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:127 xFyAfVRD4jqXeZCkknWEcMu63ooUfTPEmD from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:174 xBgTZoN2vn5NWuNM5Zx2zmAoBzzz336W1J from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:332 xB5zZs2R7kkc3vjHhLQJV5huR93F5vyeqi from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:219 xQeieCuawPXnhwUYkfznJrGVBgwNLXmfVg from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:99 xTxburuiDebG3uBfNCNok4BcJcgWTfRkBV from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:292 xVJz8VRbPGrnBANWZBGdDcVTpvMgi2zMhe from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:306 xQngzgyDPSQ9ACMSmCg1uWzcAjHqx8Lhjm from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:292 xPj1Atme3kqCaz1SL24yjpggWooeXvLziP from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:218 xWrA9mQKzDJZLfWBATeKnL3F59yKNf2xUT from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:175 xAMaTF7MaR9XYi7T91L4FibBTFxuSPVRea from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:22 xGd5iwC2EjLPRee7xtj2g9YQdChAtxBaYT from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:339 x9hqeNc6Tns1vJCfQQ2daAapLJjXDxEvx5 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:92 xCNF9wHuoqVYC4HU5SbJDTaN4xScceGQvb from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:133 xEzqsKhwmCYZTqMAy3LsCKb67TZvcphvtj from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:35 x9UxdwqGNxAUo4QLXqhUx3MJAeJ6XdBC61 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:305 xPp7ZuGdf8hcA1uo4iW3gfAN7qVDKo1CkV from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:262 xKhM2LiPUh3LzAojYmhu21GbCBnZ7NWc4a from block 9114

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The problem with this is that the bag holder won't be an idiot, he'll wait for the price to go back up. This discovery is going to significantly hinder clam investment in the future and is ultimately an issue with the distribution strategy.

- Benzedi

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Quote from: dooglus on August 24, 2015, 08:43:31 PM

I noticed this a few hours ago, couldn't decide whether I should publish it or not, and eventually decided I should. I hope I made the correct decision:

While I'm sure some will complain, I think you made the correct decision to publish. This is a threat that has hung over clam since its inception and any other coin that mimics its distribution method. It will be interesting to see how clam community reacts to the first "dig whale".

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Quote from: uvwvj on August 24, 2015, 08:47:02 PM

The recently dug coins would make sense with the large number of bitcoin days destroyed selling taking place in Bitcoin.

So a old time Bitcoiner selling BTC from old wallets then digging up the clams for the bonuses.

Good point. The standard advice is "move your BTC before importing your wallet", and so we would expect large "digs" to be accompanied by large "Bitcoin days destroyed", at least some of the time. Although note that every non dust (>0.0001 BTC) address gets the same ~4.6 CLAM award, so it's possible these dug addresses are mostly dust amounts, and would have very little affect on the "days destroyed" chart.

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The recently dug coins would make sense with the large number of bitcoin days destroyed selling taking place in Bitcoin.

So a old time Bitcoiner selling BTC from old wallets then digging up the clams for the bonuses.

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I noticed this a few hours ago, couldn't decide whether I should publish it or not, and eventually decided I should. I hope I made the correct decision:

Checking my clam logs, I see something strange about the recent 'digging':

Code:

2015-08-24 23:17:02 DIG: 9164592830c9587bca115cbe797a80ca78d2240c3b7e9ecc87228ab883597162:289 xSA29Q6FL6Rf1HC494LN9f1UizMLM28swG from block 9122
2015-08-24 23:17:02 DIG: 9164592830c9587bca115cbe797a80ca78d2240c3b7e9ecc87228ab883597162:225 xBnPYwTozrNAfrvmfcKrN1eC7QF9JHFtqw from block 9122
2015-08-24 23:17:02 DIG: 9164592830c9587bca115cbe797a80ca78d2240c3b7e9ecc87228ab883597162:43 xTh39dcrPkabebWyEjW5sb8rpeV6fb5VoN from block 9122
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:257 xFdWTCgRKBVgME8Szd6abo5Y4EeWEucLP7 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:263 xBuiUaPhPzaYCd3H97HJ5ipYTiwkBrHEjb from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:343 xNdXNrFZ5PCNzowYC6CYKfQjqCqLzR2Jee from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:335 xXKMXeao6GEJQFrNPxSfriSm2BDfxvvaTF from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:296 xUWuoDpH1MhmhMkY5HbdLPzAyCPkRzKHQr from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:251 xRVLpyUVmXnXzdom1mJjwzRe7HuBPZYEs7 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:188 xAth7QfQPw8kmTmbi4CiVt7TrjdDKeunHr from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:183 xB1F1dq7LHbQBWDSpnMfiiCGTEMMjXGRC3 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: 5e1c718701688a7b86c1298567c82af41d1b8732b71b10a32ea8887be9ace66e:0 xEL5NJkjHsNsC7AJpSg1W5bNt62qkbkEBz from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:197 xRaiLjaGuAfzrS5c34GKWMRLFi2XRRrVp1 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:151 xTg9aiT2LX1mTR3gvZig6vFLpV8U2EQZRm from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:298 xEpWhvh1zjbQ98MSnNz1yjtoETVnhDkHZR from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:58 xRyHittXt5T3FDj6Yn9WVKSUJ9DeA1gxqy from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:343 xLS89LV66G6YG7hV4U5YyV4NXvYvLejt5M from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:63 xL2wj2vdy9QHHpQpQ9joZKY1cfYVzb8C9o from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:182 xN7c9jAFPH1pKTN7Buj4qcPPHsjokwkm7p from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:330 xRZCHSZ5zUtFN5FymUDVRyzpY8ftajqTpc from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:313 xVRK9ocxMdWqR5zDyPWTgCaDmpqzxvJqNV from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:182 xMyv9oVyeooRSQx4pTT432Mv4DdQmY8xeT from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:25:34 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:128 xAm83kQNWUPw7hARnuQhKwuRbHmD1fCjqk from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:31:12 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:113 xXCKWqXmffouX9orfpGXY6Fpm3ZKh53LZZ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:295 xDCy4mPbJAb9oGJMAWaa3X3FoKtQ6u1Av9 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:233 x9DhjodJdyn4azLPC1Ri7tuhKatWhiEcxh from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:88 xPJHhVYot2TRhm9ryaVjYLAq2KtHuXZ5zk from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:254 xVyPL7wxMdNVtdkbsmUrbS2b8ZbgMfz9w3 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:44 xJKWT9rmCpdyuzyVpj3bfVj1gXfiQyhTki from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:9 xCfuu7GXdYJ1yhZcp2tovCMKp6yQJgmP3h from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:56 xTCXiKAkMTjQy3fhd3mcQsesr7SALRL2s9 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:95 xRMmosrCmWgNsvA4y6UM1Tm76mnNJ33yBw from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:11 x9wvyrhv6ckKqco9wpisws1QBN3c3CPzQt from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:37 xEo3AJymByRWxB54LU8dEUD2q72mXxGxRL from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:302 xHJw34FpZLSg7up5z1PrSNp4TPGQMSzWYL from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:60 xNCK858JXV2DpdtAKWFgZj5rS7V7F5JcTR from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:269 xJUGBzd7JKJnU6Lhuou53Jv76SexTkVT7C from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:215 xCnVVotEgLM5g3phwYtgSoayGhHYu5XpFn from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:14 xSjxEkJU2Wwqn6WSJEusN1BxfXyE5HVb39 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:110 xFu28LKMnAcXYi3Hj7qomVHiX5N1qwkmRc from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:8 xUVJW5Bv7qTkFUEzmya2RjEkbM9XrRQtG8 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:315 xCU4mGDqnRxgEUV5vkVTnNmz1MByKS5bZj from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:0 xAYzTzWX8zJgLDjyo2aqkNvdy45xckutBg from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:159 xDA3dDuv1QyEDxhHk9T1k2o3o2pkSWqPLE from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:343 xNgwLecdeogMKjLPEbDnX81bDpMZaTUABv from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:152 xC7GywSrL1vzUukceJRvmnbRzyvUZZWY77 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:281 xF4gPctZEH8UFazbFEREpdHQi5jrLFZPUV from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:207 xNq7XE3g8mTUtF4JBnqoczzDve91LwdnXM from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:242 xPFyQeShPzKTVA4vAxwXUHd48wf4KPCX16 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:346 xB9sDLJy8iCQdupJuyKS2yut73JJdhCVZt from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:116 xHNJzuurmL64fzeKYq37LLLXdtCGwJXJ1X from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:162 xPks17THju1hYT3wkpcK2qUTeAKfUqJQyz from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:6 xN8jSU1bq9cY2SMCL23WCdBSSXz56Th1Bc from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:117 xFGd2PFUGJ9o7zpynCWyy9vmhGqqpKitz6 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:335 xWWRaYxkJnrqYRndJ1XCFPxiMopAJcriZP from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:99 xJgyHL2q6qfyFvrpQgPmQkh4sUUxcLN2rR from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:283 xVMsfmKKR99hjyGh7kDxrv34KgqyPuP2cD from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:164 xBo6omoutjQwKE3wnwREkAhjSFHxoSvaq3 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:211 xQgrRPhFA59ZtUoGmwVRGjEbij4PqmKZQA from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:132 xGhxMHZNR7KqmFhy78WQssjzKz2t3ScWim from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:123 xVcvsUWzdTiuwzMPPqaiunyhZPkxs8qUwM from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:108 xWfH74dQmU5g1zEBzscaQaH9iCwiV9Wyvi from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:303 xJDVQDZJRD3v9AqFGJpbCf2VS8yqxLs9CG from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:249 xPXDvX3ZmoqFfLcVoLERGtXxNSYuwTnAQw from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:171 xB78UVb2CL5USMgTe5znCB2xgSZL3SR8NU from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:1 xX1HSu8GVoM2kKvfxFKrapvZNx5Aq4v1ek from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:21 xSqUME1JGv3ky99j8QMsL6RG9gxThAD8u1 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:104 xNRf6w4z2FuTrEUp6kPrPbkgp7zrjXGj5n from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:91 xFqmhFFLSudU6BKH4uSe7xPo43xp3m4LFZ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:207 xTcHLMepPtaRNCnNPexg4cPyWaYMdt93Aj from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:227 xCz8yLLuTou3gAEBxJyu5QnYPEVfC5qDzu from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:8 xFLwNzNRDfh1by11j44mV8FDM2WDpubhaM from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:47 xAVj7mGVEJGuhfQD96bJdM4QBuaRRz4f7R from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:190 xToss99SuYgPXGXGBKtgnbf7XyGBopcaSB from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:129 xUv6gD76k26DjNgnhAjJKhbAHWnwpaL6hY from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:120 xVyCBTN7gpKzGpmc583RA3dSMt4ePj6wMS from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:153 xNRqGPpcizbDkGjkGcFq6rf7Xwn5xKFV8o from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:165 xTfajfgzVP9MugWeg4b7yfV1VoALhHgnRe from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:55 xQjB6NGLTTfy1m9yZEzx2kLqNgdJBxPhFG from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:162 xNRuZ6e9nAs4V79XGD4tee468yUztAmyfQ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:71 xPwouFtcBMsFCCkQzdmCVPodkPzp3cRXEn from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:241 xRGrKoRBYbRUXgBXfakZPkUvic41DNSYMz from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:195 xCpJAkgshC6JpAeNCss36RoEHMicRsmYNF from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:216 xQ4GaC957i191orKqdYpzwgYgpxpEi5X3Z from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:28 xKDd7weNobnhM4azg4HwYezLx4iJU6rcXz from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:18 x8WbSCJBoC1EGc5ToQaUMyWZgwg7BVYetV from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:86 xN3C7WhoW6NLvAUENZFDboaeYKbyjeH8hm from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:217 xBV8U2JUKU6fA1hneExg7AXR3qieQQtUvt from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:129 xSeC9t9dyAFZzQbu6Zjjx3oz1qpqcDya4Z from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:181 xQMiQhzSbpUchxC75VKNXKsDKy9h5DsnFm from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:42 xHSLBZQ5zfX6Ldk76Z9A6G7gBTNnQihnZw from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:192 xTSGo24iMqcM9hawQ8nbbaoTtSGJQKuFwR from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:51 xEvEXU6zSq92a4F8LVKsQjkkTfzfdENCXx from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:73 xTC7WqjLeFrK2bVEiLVmW8tdKLpUnQ88QZ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:161 x9TZxowvBATfGqFqKyHPS7N9SboQ7nKEgr from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:271 x9UwkBzQCTEEggCWCCkDBGmds5p3JSj8zc from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:104 xDXX3ytZD2E6CVetvyfZSxenckAWkEe2xa from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:296 xRvbSiDKNkg2Lu18cXSi1f889RG23ojECW from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:243 xEPMvN8NeQaSNQYVbAqyTc5KWgs9CuQXmn from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:232 xBJ3rsdSFppcdHPL868V9zdGK1BytveQKR from block 9121

Notice how the digs are all from initial distribution blocks 9121 and 9122... Looking back further, I see that the digging took ~3.6% of the rewards from block 9128 (256 of 7120), then took 3.6% of the rewards from block 9127 (261 of 7120), then took 3.3% of the rewards from block 9122 (164 of 4984). Blocks 9123 through 9126 only had 356, 0, 712, and 356 rewards each, so I didn't bother checking the percentage claimed from those.

So it looks like this guy, whoever he is, is able to claim around 3.5% of the rewards in each block, and is working his way backwards through the blocks. According to xploited, the initial distribution ordered the rewards randomly, so there's no reason to think that he won't be able to claim a similar percentage of the rewards from all the blocks.

[Edit: it was mentioned to me that this could be interpretted as me saying that someone has found an exploit that lets them dig up so many CLAMs. That's not what I meant at all. I think it's just someone with a huge BTC wallet, possibly from an exchange, laundry, black market, etc. site. I don't suspect foul play of any sort - the transactions are being signed with valid BTC private keys.]

3.5% of the initial distribution means around 517k CLAMs. In which case this digging spree is only just getting started.

So what do we do?

It's possible I've overlooked something, and this massive influx of freshly dug CLAM isn't really coming our way. If so, please help me see it...

Also, here's a new recent-dig chart:

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18:45:19 (965827) <@creativecuriosity> For fucks sake doog, choose a longer term dig image graph, lolz. That short term graph looks like a mountain, lmfao.

As requested, here's a longer term chart. Note the growth in the number dug at the beginning of December when JD relaunched with CLAM, and the vertical cliff at the beginning of January when a large LTC wallet was dug up:

dooglus

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Activity: 2940

Merit: 1333

Quote from: TheGift73 on August 24, 2015, 02:28:21 PM

Yep, I had a " in my passphrase. I have now changed that and started the import again. However, I now get:

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Error: Please enter the wallet passphrase with walletpassphrase first. (code -13)

That's talking about your CLAM wallet. In order to import private keys into your CLAM wallet from the BTC wallet, the CLAM wallet needs to be unlocked. It's the same as when you try to import a private key into any encrypted wallet - you need to unlock the wallet first:

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$ bitcoin-cli importprivkey 5JyEXcta7Z3QUo9R4hDkEocK3mTChquRwKbsdXPoDJ27fN1sD6U
error: {"code":-13,"message":"Error: Please enter the wallet passphrase with walletpassphrase first."}
$

So in the QT interface, click 'Console' at the bottom of the left-hand pane, then type:

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walletpassphrase fred 3600

where 'fred' is the CLAM wallet's passphrase, and 3600 is the number of seconds to unlock it for.

Then you'll be able to import your BTC wallet.

Edit: I experimented with the 'Console' window to see how to type passphrases with single and double quotes in them. It turns out you can quote single quotes using double quotes, and can quote double quotes using single quotes. You can also backslash-escape both types of quotes, but backslash escaping doesn't work inside single quotes. Probably the easiest way of doing it is to put a backslash before any single quote, double quote, and space in the passphrase:

My passphrase was:

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a " b ' c

ie. 9 characters: a, space, double-quote, space, b, space, single-quote, space, c

I was able to unlock the wallet by typing any of these 3 commands:

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walletpassphrase a\ \"\ b\ \'\ c 3600 (backslash-escaping each space and quote separately)
walletpassphrase 'a " b'" ' c" 3600 (single-quoting the double quote, and double-quoting the single quote)
walletpassphrase "a \" b ' c" 3600 (double-quoting the whole thing, and backslash-escaping the double-quote)

Yes, I'm aware that it is retarded that you need to go to these lengths. But I just noticed there's a menu entry: Misc->UnlockWallet, which lets you simply type the passphrase to unlock your wallet. It seems the default is to unlock for staking only, so you probably need to uncheck that option. And I don't see a way of specifying how long to unlock for, so you'll want to Misc->LockWallet when you're done importing.

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