It is very ecouraging to see how most of us are content to simply hold onto our CLAMs, and should serve as a good indicator of how evenly distributed the air drop really was.
Sell Orders Total: 940.57584004 CLAM
Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 473. (Read 1151252 times)
July 16, 2014, 04:45:11 PM
PoS + exchanges who keep the customer's PoS rewards = crypto central banks
It is very ecouraging to see how most of us are content to simply hold onto our CLAMs, and should serve as a good indicator of how evenly distributed the air drop really was.
Sell Orders Total: 940.57584004 CLAM
It is very ecouraging to see how most of us are content to simply hold onto our CLAMs, and should serve as a good indicator of how evenly distributed the air drop really was.
Sell Orders Total: 940.57584004 CLAM
July 16, 2014, 04:34:36 PM
Just Do It Doogie!
July 16, 2014, 04:07:35 PM
I stupidly moved all wonderfully aged 27 clams over the exchange initially, so now I'm playing catchup
I've been thinking about this.
If I move coins from one wallet to another, I have to wait 510 blocks until they will start staking again. I also have to wait 510 blocks after they last staked before I can move them, so there will be a minimum of 1020 blocks between staking in one wallet and staking in the next.
It looks to me like I could hard-code the staking routine so that the output(s) of the staking transaction are different than the inputs - then my coins would move at the same time as they stake, saving me 510 blocks of waiting time.
Questions:
1) would that work from a technical point of view?
2) if so, would such behaviour be frowned upon from a human point of view?
July 16, 2014, 04:03:02 PM
don't keep them on the exchange unless you want to sell.... they won't stake over there...
Well, they will stake over there, but the exchange will probably take the profit for themselves...
You could imagine an exchange which shared its profits from staking customer coins with the customers to give them a competitive advantage - "sell your clams on our exchange and we'll share their staking profits with you until they sell".
July 16, 2014, 12:25:40 PM
We were hoping a community member would step up and create a block explorer for CLAMS - the explorer @ http://www.kHashier.com:2750/ was not intended to be a permanent solution. Getting it back up now.
Thanks for getting it back up, but now it's down again.
I guess I'll live for the moment.
Concerning optimum stake output size, this is ever changing as the network weight changes.
I don't believe anyone has done the math as of yet, though the distribution amount of ~4.6 CLAMS seems to stake quite well.
I don't believe anyone has done the math as of yet, though the distribution amount of ~4.6 CLAMS seems to stake quite well.
I stupidly moved all wonderfully aged 27 clams over the exchange initially, so now I'm playing catchup, which is difficult if not impossible? After 3 days (even though it continually said 10 hours and then 3 hours near the end for a whole day) it *finally* staked, and now after staked claim is matured it says 29 minutes to stake, but it's been that way for over a day now?? So the lottery incentive is kinda lost for me..
Hang in there... they stake eventually... don't keep them on the exchange unless you want to sell.... they won't stake over there...
July 16, 2014, 12:00:45 PM
We were hoping a community member would step up and create a block explorer for CLAMS - the explorer @ http://www.kHashier.com:2750/ was not intended to be a permanent solution. Getting it back up now.
Thanks for getting it back up, but now it's down again.
I guess I'll live for the moment.
Concerning optimum stake output size, this is ever changing as the network weight changes.
I don't believe anyone has done the math as of yet, though the distribution amount of ~4.6 CLAMS seems to stake quite well.
I don't believe anyone has done the math as of yet, though the distribution amount of ~4.6 CLAMS seems to stake quite well.
I stupidly moved all wonderfully aged 27 clams over the exchange initially, so now I'm playing catchup, which is difficult if not impossible? After 3 days (even though it continually said 10 hours and then 3 hours near the end for a whole day) it *finally* staked, and now after staked claim is matured it says 29 minutes to stake, but it's been that way for over a day now?? So the lottery incentive is kinda lost for me..
July 16, 2014, 10:27:36 AM
We would appreciate it if someone with experience parsing block chains would verify our work, however:
Super Rough Estimated Total Current Distribution of CLAMS:
~8,280 "Claimed" + Staked CLAMS = ~9,000 CLAMS.
The "Staked CLAMS" is about as rough of an estimate as exists.
It is late, and I will get an exact figure on "Staked CLAMS" tomorrow
Super Rough Estimated Total Current Distribution of CLAMS:
~8,280 "Claimed" + Staked CLAMS = ~9,000 CLAMS.
The "Staked CLAMS" is about as rough of an estimate as exists.
It is late, and I will get an exact figure on "Staked CLAMS" tomorrow
This actually blows my mind... so much potential.
July 16, 2014, 09:10:46 AM
Hi guys, what is the latest wallet version? 0.8.4?
The link in the first page is not working (at least for me).
The link in the first page is not working (at least for me).
just tried and link is working for me
latest version is 1.4.2
try here:
https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/releases
July 16, 2014, 07:48:22 AM
Hi guys, what is the latest wallet version? 0.8.4?
The link in the first page is not working (at least for me).
The link in the first page is not working (at least for me).
July 16, 2014, 07:44:39 AM
We would appreciate it if someone with experience parsing block chains would verify our work, however:
Super Rough Estimated Total Current Distribution of CLAMS:
~8,280 "Claimed" + Staked CLAMS = ~9,000 CLAMS.
Super Rough Estimated Total Current Distribution of CLAMS:
~8,280 "Claimed" + Staked CLAMS = ~9,000 CLAMS.
That some serious clam. If ( and I hope 'when' ) this CLAM thing takes off people will start digging for more clams.... until then this is one of the most rare coins in history....
I see the network weight increasing.... more people must be staking..
Me? Up to about 5.2 CLAM.
July 16, 2014, 07:41:32 AM
We would appreciate it if someone with experience parsing block chains would verify our work, however:
Super Rough Estimated Total Current Distribution of CLAMS:
~8,280 "Claimed" + Staked CLAMS = ~9,000 CLAMS.
The "Staked CLAMS" is about as rough of an estimate as exists.
It is late, and I will get an exact figure on "Staked CLAMS" tomorrow
Super Rough Estimated Total Current Distribution of CLAMS:
~8,280 "Claimed" + Staked CLAMS = ~9,000 CLAMS.
The "Staked CLAMS" is about as rough of an estimate as exists.
It is late, and I will get an exact figure on "Staked CLAMS" tomorrow
July 16, 2014, 02:37:52 AM
July 16, 2014, 12:54:37 AM
I have ~.13 CLAM in an address with 8 inputs. The most recent input has ~1000 confirmations.
Can anyone explain to me why these aren't staking? Mainly curious. Are the TXOUTs too small to stake for some reason?
Can anyone explain to me why these aren't staking? Mainly curious. Are the TXOUTs too small to stake for some reason?
There is a minimum balance for staking on some coins, I don't know about Clams.
But is your wallet encrypted? Staking won't occur if it has a password.
There's no minimum balance, I don't think. There's a minimum time of 4 hours.
After that, you work out the "clam days" of your outputs. If you have 0.13 CLAM that hasn't moved for 3 days, you have 0.39 "clam days" (multiply value by age). I think that 0.39 is then rounded down to an integer, which might be your problem, since it will go to 0 for you. But suppose you had 13 CLAM that hadn't moved for 3 days. That's 39 clam days. That gets multiplied by about 4000 (depending on the current difficulty). So you get 39*4000 = 156,000. Then every second your client hashes a bunch of stuff and gets an effectively random number between 0 and 4.3 billion. If the number is less than your 156,000 then you get to stake. 156,000 is about 27,500 times smaller than 4.3 billion, so you get to stake about once per 27,500 seconds (458 minutes, 7.5 hours).
So 13 CLAM that's 3 days old stakes every 7.5 hours or so. As it gets older, its chance of staking increases.
And I think your 0.13 CLAM needs to be 1/0.13 = 7.7 days old before it gets over 1 "clam day", and so even has a chance of staking, though I might be wrong on that point.
July 15, 2014, 11:53:10 PM
Woohoo!
Another Lottery Winner!
~26+ CLAMS!
http://khashier.com:2750/block/ccf399c57815c04ae8942770408947648d6627e8374b887dbeb87956678ce75a
Another Lottery Winner!
~26+ CLAMS!
http://khashier.com:2750/block/ccf399c57815c04ae8942770408947648d6627e8374b887dbeb87956678ce75a
That was me!
wow lucky dog
July 15, 2014, 11:49:08 PM
So!
Ideas anyone?
More algos coming to the multi-pool anytime soon?Ideas anyone?
where is viking coin trading now?
Right now Viking is trading on two exhanges that don't see much volume. RockyTrade.net and Allcrypt.
KGW still in place for now which makes for good mining. Once merged mining is finish who knows where the diff will end up. Viking Coin page in my sig.
July 15, 2014, 11:36:50 PM
I hold many good coins just wanna say Clam Dev is one of the best.. and very helpful...
thanks DEV...
thanks DEV...
Thank you for the optimism. You're making this CLAM feel all fuzzy
The team and I try our best.
The blockchain viewer is down
khashier.com:2750
Also, since I'm writing...
When staking, would having several good sized blocks or one good block be better? Will multiple blocks in a single wallet stake at the same time? Or does it have to wait to complete a staked block?
khashier.com:2750
Also, since I'm writing...
When staking, would having several good sized blocks or one good block be better? Will multiple blocks in a single wallet stake at the same time? Or does it have to wait to complete a staked block?
We were hoping a community member would step up and create a block explorer for CLAMS - the explorer @ http://www.kHashier.com:2750/ was not intended to be a permanent solution. Getting it back up now.
Multiple outputs in a single wallet can be combined to stake in the same coinStake if they are controlled by the same "address"/pubKey. Honestly, this is not an optimum solution considering that CLAMS does not give a bonus reward based on output size.
Outputs controlled by separate "addresses"/pubKeys operate independently as far as staking is concerned.
Concerning optimum stake output size, this is ever changing as the network weight changes.
I don't believe anyone has done the math as of yet, though the distribution amount of ~4.6 CLAMS seems to stake quite well.
Hope that is helpful
July 15, 2014, 11:22:47 PM
The blockchain viewer is down
khashier.com:2750
Also, since I'm writing...
When staking, would having several good sized blocks or one good block be better? Will multiple blocks in a single wallet stake at the same time? Or does it have to wait to complete a staked block?
khashier.com:2750
Also, since I'm writing...
When staking, would having several good sized blocks or one good block be better? Will multiple blocks in a single wallet stake at the same time? Or does it have to wait to complete a staked block?
July 15, 2014, 10:22:39 PM
I hold many good coins just wanna say Clam Dev is one of the best.. and very helpful...
thanks DEV...
thanks DEV...
July 15, 2014, 10:16:35 PM
I needz some high definition logos and such.. I would like to make some Clams-Wear.. i.e. t-shirts and such...
Also can we call the Clams Cold Wallet the 'Clam Bake'?
Also can we call the Clams Cold Wallet the 'Clam Bake'?
Sure, we have all of the graphics in vector format.
I will look into getting them into an archive and posted in the OP Post soon
Woohoo!
Another Lottery Winner!
~26+ CLAMS!
http://khashier.com:2750/block/ccf399c57815c04ae8942770408947648d6627e8374b887dbeb87956678ce75a
That was me! Another Lottery Winner!
~26+ CLAMS!
http://khashier.com:2750/block/ccf399c57815c04ae8942770408947648d6627e8374b887dbeb87956678ce75a
Sweet!My math may be wrong (you seem to be the expert mathematician, dooglus) but what does the ROI on the CLAMS Lottery look like at the moment? lol.
Why would anyone invest in an A.S.I.C. or mining rig when there is a proof-of-pearl(stake) coin like CLAMS that essentially functions similar?
Another coin with a similar method of distribution to CLAM launched recently - there are free distributions for Dogecoin, Bitcoin and several other coin holders too.
It's called LottoShares, and users can immediately use their funds to play the lottery!
More details here -
It's called LottoShares, and users can immediately use their funds to play the lottery!
More details here -
Glad to see someone taking the CLAMS Proof-Of-Chain idea and running with it. Don't entirely agree with their choice to only distribute to the richest pubKeys, but the thought is nice. Let us hope that they are as trustworthy with their user's privateKeys and their code as we have been.
Some thing might be wrong with my staking. My first and only was 0.11 48 hours ago. And for some reason while staking sgminer 4.1.0 crashes every so often. Crashing only started since wallet update.
(Date: 7/13/2014 03:30
Source: Generated
Credit: 0.11 CLAM
Net amount: +0.11 CLAM)
getstakinginfo="enabled" : true,"staking" : true,"errors" : "","currentblocksize" : 1000,"currentblocktx" : 0,"pooledtx" : 0,"difficulty" : 0.00024414,"search-interval" : 1,"weight" : 5,"netstakeweight" : 8844,"expectedtime" : 8844
(Date: 7/13/2014 03:30
Source: Generated
Credit: 0.11 CLAM
Net amount: +0.11 CLAM)
getstakinginfo="enabled" : true,"staking" : true,"errors" : "","currentblocksize" : 1000,"currentblocktx" : 0,"pooledtx" : 0,"difficulty" : 0.00024414,"search-interval" : 1,"weight" : 5,"netstakeweight" : 8844,"expectedtime" : 8844
No idea what the issue is with sgminer, as it shouldn't be related. Concerning your staking, it appears that staking is enabled and active - I would expect that your outputs are simply not old enough or large enough yet to stake again. Regardless, time will march onward and age will accrue; making staking inevitable.
I have ~.13 CLAM in an address with 8 inputs. The most recent input has ~1000 confirmations.
Can anyone explain to me why these aren't staking? Mainly curious. Are the TXOUTs too small to stake for some reason?
There is a minimum balance for staking on some coins, I don't know about Clams.Can anyone explain to me why these aren't staking? Mainly curious. Are the TXOUTs too small to stake for some reason?
But is your wallet encrypted? Staking won't occur if it has a password.
I will ask one of the other Devs next time I see them; but I am not aware of a minimum size to stake. That said, 0.1 coin @ 10 age == 1 coin @ 1 age, ergo it may take some time for those small outputs to accrue enough age to stake.
July 15, 2014, 10:13:51 PM
So!
Ideas anyone?
More algos coming to the multi-pool anytime soon?Ideas anyone?
where is viking coin trading now?
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