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hoertest

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Microsoft sells "front end driven" products. You don't care how Excell works, you just care about the front end expercience this "how" creates for you.

Anonymous cryptos are "back end driven" products. whats under the hood IS the product. Monero being succesfull without a gui wallet shows that.

Privacy focused blockchain technology is a whole different business branch than consumer IT or games. And the Benchmark should be lifes mattering on the obfuscation to work.

I just think Cloak will be worth way more much faster if its open sourced. not tomorrow but sooner than later. Ok made my point. don't care to much, love cloak, cashmen and the team are still heroes. all good.

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Quote from: yogibaer on April 01, 2016, 01:17:18 PM

The majority of users know nothing about code and coding. For them it s important the product is working.

Like me,i want product to work and he works,this it maters to me.

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The majority of users know nothing about code and coding. For them it s important the product is working.

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Quote from: hoertest on April 01, 2016, 12:28:34 PM

Quote from: MedaR on April 01, 2016, 12:19:46 PM

Publicly releasing of the code is not good idea, from investor and developer standpoint, because everyone can freely copy paste, expensive technology. And over night we will have many copies, and code will become worthless in such conditions.
If someone find any errors, and problems with wallet he can post here..So we can talk about it.

look at eth. DarkFlarb, Dish. the clones never overtake the innovator. this is coming from someone who was pro closed source in XC, it was the beginning of the end. learn from others mistakes.

since when is D4sh "instantX" open source? i remember D4sh open source they project after security audit fail...

What software company is mostly distributed and mostly successful ? ..... Microsoft? i think they still not open source it....

So open source don't means is holy grail its a one way to go but i respect a also the decision of cloak dev to hold the project close source....

MedaR

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Quote from: hoertest on April 01, 2016, 12:28:34 PM

look at eth. DarkFlarb, Dish. the clones never overtake the innovator. this is coming from someone who was pro closed source in XC, it was the beginning of the end. learn from others mistakes.

Ok and if you are right, it is still very early for such talks here, i mean wallet is released as promised and everything is ok now. And another thing, this code belongs to Cloak developers, they have all rights to sell their products if they want. This was not ICO or premine coin as ETH.
If Cloak Team decide to reveal code, i will support their decision, so far their decisions were very wise!

XC is different story from my standpoint they are scammers. They have collected very good amount of BTCs
through their "fake coins", and BLOCK scam. Cool

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Quote from: MedaR on April 01, 2016, 12:19:46 PM

Publicly releasing of the code is not good idea, from investor and developer standpoint, because everyone can freely copy paste, expensive technology. And over night we will have many copies, and code will become worthless in such conditions.
If someone find any errors, and problems with wallet he can post here..So we can talk about it.

look at eth. monero, dash. the clones never overtake the innovator. this is coming from someone who was pro closed source in XC, it was the beginning of the end. learn from others mistakes.

MedaR

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Publicly releasing of the code is not good idea, from investor and developer standpoint, because everyone can freely copy paste, expensive technology. And over night we will have many copies, and code will become worthless in such conditions.
If someone find any errors, and problems with wallet he can post here..So we can talk about it.

disco987

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Quote from: lazi on April 01, 2016, 06:55:25 AM

Its time to make a own Cloak Exchange i think Roll Eyes

Yes,it is time Cool

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Quote from: Jackle1889 on April 01, 2016, 06:25:13 AM

I think if Polo/Bittrex want to review the code there are chances the team give the source to them for review.

CloakCoin wallet source is opensource if you are not intending using the anon send technology, therefore the basic codebase can be inspected and users can build cloakcoin daemon from the source in order to incorporate into their projects.
Regards,
RD

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Quote from: Ratatosk on April 01, 2016, 04:10:25 AM

Hi, good to see you released the final PoSA3 wallet, thank you.

But Cloak is not going to be on Poloniex... "We also conduct a thorough code review before a coin is added on our exchange."

Same as Verified Markets list on Bittrex... "rigorous identity verification of the lead developers" ... "complete code review"...

Sad...

Hello Ratatosk my old friend,

feel free to review the old code here: https://github.com/cashmen/CloakCoinRelaunch

We dont plan to push our latest code for exchanges.... we see no reason do this... The exchanges are fine with old github source and can use it like they do it now.

I see you are identify fan so please feel free to verify "Satoshi Nakamoto" Wink

peace and love my friend (swastika power is with you)

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Quote from: lasvegas83 on April 01, 2016, 08:23:21 AM

Heyyyy i received my T-Shirt today!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/gkDY5

Today is not the BTC Pizza day...its the CloakCoin T-Shirt day Grin

Its a important step towards to become CLOAK as a real currency...

Bro, that's really COOL! In this coin has a good chance to be on a par with uᴉoɔʇᴉq, and why not, it is no worse, only better!

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Quote from: lasvegas83 on March 21, 2016, 06:15:21 PM

Really awesome service!!!!
Ordered now a T-Shirt and payed with CLOAK Grin

http://www.icemodz.eu/#!/Icemodz-T-Shirt-Limited/p/45182561/category=11656068

Heyyyy i received my T-Shirt today!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/gkDY5

Today is not the BTC Pizza day...its the CloakCoin T-Shirt day Grin

Its a important step towards to become CLOAK as a real currency...

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Quote from: lazi on April 01, 2016, 06:55:25 AM

Its time to make a own Cloak Exchange i think Roll Eyes

ok.... that sounds like a great solution.
thats gonna be a fantastic

lazi

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Its time to make a own Cloak Exchange i think Roll Eyes

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I think if Polo/Bittrex want to review the code there are chances the team give the source to them for review.

Ratatosk

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Hi, good to see you released the final PoSA3 wallet, thank you.

But Cloak is not going to be on Poloniex... "We also conduct a thorough code review before a coin is added on our exchange."

Same as Verified Markets list on Bittrex... "rigorous identity verification of the lead developers" ... "complete code review"...

Sad...

CryptoAllDay

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Solid tech, just tested a PoSA3 transaction. Great work, devs. It'll take time for people to adopt the tech. Is there a way we can get a revamped wallet look in the future?

Also, can we get a buy/sell section on the website? I would like to be the very first sale of a physical good for CLOAKs.

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https://cloakcoin.com

Huiiii nice Cheesy

Community is growing and growing...

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Quote from: orco#2 on March 31, 2016, 03:24:26 PM

Quote from: hoertest on March 31, 2016, 02:38:37 PM

I would consider open sourcing it pretty quickly. i once started a discussion about open source calling it "socialist mantra" but i changed my mind a little bit meanwhile. specially with anonymizing tech an audit is great but not enough for many.
the question for any anon coin should be could people trust it with their lifes when it matters. An Audit doesn't do that no matter how trustable the source.
As far as clones go i think history has shown meanwhile that the first movers and innovators stay on top.

Quote from: hoertest on March 31, 2016, 02:38:37 PM

I would consider open sourcing it pretty quickly. i once started a discussion about open source calling it "socialist mantra" but i changed my mind a little bit meanwhile. specially with anonymizing tech an audit is great but not enough for many.
the question for any anon coin should be could people trust it with their lifes when it matters. An Audit doesn't do that no matter how trustable the source.
As far as clones go i think history has shown meanwhile that the first movers and innovators stay on top.

I disagree, only very few users dig into the git. I think devs are on the right path. Users are not even close to a level that is warranted to feel comfortable as being a way mover.

Releasing the source now would be like selling for to microsoft for $50,000. Maybe in 6 months or 18, once the endgame is in site and the network effect in entrenched.

As to your point on trusting it with your life, perhaps let folks get the system for that 6 to 18 months, before adopting. Maybe buy a little just for good measure.

by pretty quickly i meant moth also. Wink

but rather 3 than 6. its not so much that everybody is actually checking the git but rather that its theoreticaly possible to do so.

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