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Hi,

please be aware of Imed Boudali.

https://beawareof974655055.wordpress.com/

This states everything you need to know about Imed Boudali.
Do not trust him under any circumstances.




Well, it was fun while it lasted. Have a nice trip to the jail nemgun (Imed)  Smiley
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newbie
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Hi,

please be aware of Imed Boudali.

https://beawareof974655055.wordpress.com/

This states everything you need to know about Imed Boudali.
Do not trust him under any circumstances.

jr. member
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The refund is actually more than 40%

40% refund would be about .0000814 BTC / NVST

We are going to receive about .0000933 BTC / NVST which is close to 46% refund in BTC terms.  in USD terms we are actually making a little and doing better than if we had put all our money into ETH.

I am not trying to sugarcoat this, just trying to point out the positives, and the fact that this wasn't a scam, or at the worst it was a partial scam where you only really lost if you bought at above ICO price.


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.....course they scam our tokens legally and investors can do noting for this"


Nothing can be scammed legally.No finished product = 100% refund.BTC has gained in value along with additional forked coins etc and overpayments for work done must also be refunded.If you invested 1 BTC you must have 1 BTC refunded and not its dollar value.They are probably arrogant enough to refund in BTC and only give you the $ ICO value for it while overlooking the fact they wouldnt be able to refund even the dollar ICO value if BTC crashed to zero.Then they would be very quick to say you will only be getting current BTC value if that was the case.

They also more than likely hold stacks of NVST so can enter the refund pool not to mention the fact they would still walk away with millions even after an ICO price value refund.

A shitcoin dev could have done as much with 5-10 BTC versus what has been acheived so far for investors using hundreds of bitcoins.

A complete farce.

as an investor for nvo, how should we do in this situation, only two choices, 40% refund and continue,  it seem we can't do anything for it, just wait?
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Lauda, you arrogant worthless piece of shit, I would say get you head out of your butt but Tons in the way tongue punching it.


Oh my goodness that was a good laugh to read and quite the username you have going there I might add.

Fantastic post!  Grin

Lauda is really a piece of shit.


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User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
Lauda   2018-06-24   0.00000000      Shill account trying to damage my reputation by falsely claiming that I'm a scammer. I don't trust liars. Avoid.


Yeah Lauda, you are a scammer or the worst escrow in the world. People should avoid you not me, even a 5year old kid could have escrowed this better than you. But again, a 5 year old kid wouldn't've accept to escrow a scam ICO.
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Wow who would've thought it would end like that ?

The scam could be smelled at the very beginning.
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.....course they scam our tokens legally and investors can do noting for this"


Nothing can be scammed legally.No finished product = 100% refund.BTC has gained in value along with additional forked coins etc and overpayments for work done must also be refunded.If you invested 1 BTC you must have 1 BTC refunded and not its dollar value.They are probably arrogant enough to refund in BTC and only give you the $ ICO value for it while overlooking the fact they wouldnt be able to refund even the dollar ICO value if BTC crashed to zero.Then they would be very quick to say you will only be getting current BTC value if that was the case.

They also more than likely hold stacks of NVST so can enter the refund pool not to mention the fact they would still walk away with millions even after an ICO price value refund.

A shitcoin dev could have done as much with 5-10 BTC versus what has been acheived so far for investors using hundreds of bitcoins.

A complete farce.
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"i belive that veryone want to refund,nobody will belive those scamer again, course they scam our tokens legally and investors can do noting for this"
when i sent this words to the nvo telegram, i was banned, fucking whole scamers.
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There are NVST addresses from the ICO with missing vote tokens.

Example: https://xchain.io/address/1M9UiQqDuwLRMcTWFJRnwh1BHErgNzwnsN

May I also suggest an announcement of when voting airdrops like this will occur?
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These terms appear fair.

There is only one thing I must protest and one other thing I have concerns over.

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This test vote will last 2 weeks and will become the final vote if nothing goes wrong. Vote will end sooner if at least 70% of balances have voted.

The potential early closure is a problem if allowed to close too soon. Some people may desire refunds and be away with family, busy with work, etc... Might I suggest a minimum window that this is held open for?

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Send ALL your NVSTVOTING tokens to...

Were these airdropped and when?

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Lauda, you arrogant worthless piece of shit, I would say get you head out of your butt but Tons in the way tongue punching it.


Oh my goodness that was a good laugh to read and quite the username you have going there I might add.

Fantastic post!  Grin
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These are photos of both Ton and Imed agreeing to full refunds. These were made in the very beginning of this fiasco so the term buyback was not being used yet. It is clear that both founders are ready for a fair resolution.
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Lauda, you arrogant worthless piece of shit, I would say get you head out of your butt but Tons in the way tongue punching it.


Oh my goodness that was a good laugh to read and quite the username you have going there I might add.
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With talk of voter manipulation, assertions of misappropriation of funds, one founder apparently prepared to bring a lawsuit against the other (i.e. Imed vs Ton Bi), and some investors prepared to bring this in front of European boards... I don't see (ethically/logically/etc...) how this could be left to a vote.
Which is just the classic nonsense from self-entitled idiots. Allegedly Yanni is returning (see post above); so let's see what happens.

My recommendation sources from professional ethics applied to this situation.

When serious allegations arise regarding the legality of activities of internal management then all decisions resulting from those activities must either stop or be put on hold until a proper review is performed. Given that there are serious allegations levied in nearly all corners of this project at this point... I can think of no part of it which may continue as normal pursuant to the application of professional ethics.

A proper review requires the clearing of Yanni legally. It is alleged in the complaint that a computer was stolen which contained the DEX software. This makes the legal complaint of property theft relevant to this project ethically and legally. The assertions of fraud may also be relevant (i.e. we don't know at this time) and also require a proper clearing.

A proper review as mentioned above would tie up investor liquidity. All investors I've spoken to oppose the idea of their liquidity being tied up for very long.

From posts and comments I've seen there appears to be a discrepancy in how much the investors should be refunded. I propose that they be refunded the lowest undisputed amount as soon as possible with any discrepancies refunded to them at later date once the details are worked out. e.g. if everyone agrees the refund amount is at least 40% then 40% should be airdropped as soon as reasonably possible with any remainder sent once the details are settled.
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When there is any additional information about the project, because I'm very active in supporting this project and very much hope that you will be able to stand out in a number of projects.
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Terminated.
With talk of voter manipulation, assertions of misappropriation of funds, one founder apparently prepared to bring a lawsuit against the other (i.e. Imed vs Ton Bi), and some investors prepared to bring this in front of European boards... I don't see (ethically/logically/etc...) how this could be left to a vote.
Which is just the classic nonsense from self-entitled idiots. Allegedly Yanni is returning (see post above); so let's see what happens.

short info
about the people complaining that 1400 btc are not enough (so from alt to btc) you all forgot that altcoin crashed extreme.
The greed is strong nowadays. Roll Eyes

But many alts just got converted today so the numbers of today are relevant.
Someone gets it.
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It appears that yanni should return back by tomorrow, I have not been banned from the telegram so will try to keep people posted here.
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short info
about the people complaining that 1400 btc are not enough (so from alt to btc) you all forgot that altcoin crashed extreme.



OLD Conversion Rate

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768



Todays conversion rate (13.08.2018)

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.00903533
XRP: 0.00004485
ETH: 0.04612566
MAID: 0.00003805
DASH: 0.02342568
WAVES: 0.00032511
DOGE: 0.00000037
ETC: 0.00200381

just look at eth 0.12242700(past) vs 0.04612566(today)
Now at Nvst 0.00020366666(past) vs 0.00009333333(today)
So we can say if the refund/buyback happens that nvst was a better invest than eth back than ( or atleast it was not tha bad as eth).


The current conversion rate doesn't matter. What matters is the conversion rate over the past year. It is full on bear now, Alts did well against BTC at various points last year. I remember dash got up to .09 at one point. You have to think of this over time not stagnant.

But many alts just got converted today so the numbers of today are relevant.
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