Topic: [ANN][CRW] CROWN (SHA256) | Platform | Governance | Systemnodes | Masternodes | - page 178. (Read 317079 times)

No sorry but you are thinking that I got paid but I haven't as you can check my payment address to see if it has received any coins prior to the one you sent me today with the value of 0.015.

I joined the campaign on 21st October with the post count of 952, I'd say more than 50 for 2 weeks, I even posted 11 times the first week I joined but the week ended and couldn't finish the rest but from 24th October until now I already posted nearly 70 times for 2 weeks.

The terms are weekly. Payment is 2 weekly.

The campaign has been running 4 weeks now.

After week two you was paid. After week two you had 1003 posts. Two weeks later (yesterday) you had 1035 - 5 for denied posts. So 27 posts total over two weeks.

The rules clearly say 25 posts (this is weekly). The only thing that is two weekly is payment.
You need to make 50 posts over two weeks to get 0.03 btc worth of CRW.

I'm not ungrateful but if you check the spread sheet there is no place stating such thing as I posted 32 times during 2 weeks, I did 32 posts this week only which 5 were denied and 27 accepted and week before that I made 40 posts which 15 were denied and 25 accepted and as the campaign manager already set up the numbers for you to pay you can see that in round 2 week 2 in the sheet it says 0.03 under "total payment".

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YidshN4-xIVqy3s0rDmPXuTfsOV94SQCDi-L8K60PAc/edit#gid=1588627640

It also says 25 posts per week, you only made 32 over two weeks.

Thank you but one more transaction needed as I owed 0.03BTC but only received 0.015, I appreciate your time and money.
If you check the spread sheet you'll see in week 2 round 2 in the right section it says : 0.03 payment for 2 weeks.

The bitcoin core update 0.13.1 looks interesting,

https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.13.1

70% more transactions allowed on the network (If everyone updates.)
Still doesn't compare to unlimited transactions like Chaositec's new blockchain idea.

Sorry guy, im on it now

Edit: sent

Are you guys going to pay me 0.03BTC for signature campaign yesterday already or what?

Believe it or not but I actually have a cat and she is hungry calling me out all the time and currently I have no cash in hand and need to buy her and my self food, so yeah I'd appreciate if I can get what I was suppose to get last night.

It is interesting to see the coverage of things like this.  The vast majority of financial market activity is now algorithmic trading...  exact numbers across markets are a fiction, but believable numbers for the equity markets put it around 80% or more.  The fact of the matter is that any time continuous activity -- or where the time increments are faster than "human speed" will naturally be dominated over time by different "bots"with differing levels of autonomy, "intelligence" and learning capabilities.

The interesting thing about the coverage is that the problem is always in the interaction of the algorithms.  So when a new algorithm is released into the market or a unique set of conditions occurs, one doesn't know how the algorithms which are the market will interact -- just that they will interact at faster than human speed so that periodic flash crashes in markets will happen.  And it isn't a problem which can be really be solved without fundamentally changing the market structure, which makes the regulatory discussion interesting -- or any discussion which pretends to address "flash crashes" without addressing the inherent causes of continuous trading and faster than human speed algorithms.

The answer to this problem is just that algos that lose money will fade away...

One systemic question is what if any governance structure should exist for these machines -- and as they become more and more intelligent? What currencies will they use for their faster than human speed transactions.  Put differently -- when will the bots get "frustrated" with the current state of the global financial system? 

A key driver of change in the global financial system is likely to be from those inside the system seeking a more efficient platform for their bots to operate on.  This may be part of what is happening now with all the investment and interest in bitcoin/blockchain from the corporate world - but corporations seem to be very interested in private blockchains, which just makes me smile since it is an explicit implicit recognition of the lack of trust that people have for each other even within corporations.   

Just one of the factors to consider now as "machine learning" and "AI" become cloud services: 
 
[url]https://www.tensorflow.org/][http://alchemy.cs.washington.edu//url] 
[url]https://www.tensorflow.org/
https://aws.amazon.com/machine-learning/

There are probably a variety of services which it might make sense to see implemented in a distributed, decentralized, trustless, ownerless platform over time. 

Being able to do this sort of thing seems to be one of the goals at Crown, but that is many steps down the road.

Just putting the idea out there and connecting it up with a few other things.  If this sort of goal sounds interesting -- reach out to Chaositec or Stonehedge -- they are the ones with the technical plan.  I'm just an unfrozen caveman from a time before cell phones and intertubes and don't understand many of these modern things...


 

Probably the easiest way hot to set up a Throne. I have set up a few of them with chaos and they are running smooth

Running out quick 19 left!

Node-vps still has 25 19 throne spots available, before closing for new customers.

we are slowly building the next generation system, but nothing will be disclosed until finished...

when we go live with the new systems, we will migrate all thrones already hosted to the new system...

We need to find a balance between robot codes and human intuition, which robots will never have. Working on this within one of the goals of Crown Revolution. Its wrong when robots rule, but its neccessary to employ them to guard the good.

There are some clear examples where can we learn.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/07/what-caused-pound-flash-crash-brexit-fallen-sterling

I get it -- guess I want the address with the throne collateral to be in a different wallet than the one which I am running the thrones from... and am curious if I can run thrones from a wallet which doesn't hold the address which has the throne collateral payment?

And this may be in the dash update -- but I would like to effectively be able to "nominate" a throne management address which also receives the throne payments for all or some set of throne masternodes?

And I would like to be able to do that from each individual throne, ideally -- so that that information is distributed/decentralized... I get that it can be done and sound like this is already set up in DASH and will come with the update to have the info in the throne.conf file -- but it just feels like we want as little as possible in that file because it is the "hub" and a single point of failure....

Anyway -- thanks for the feedback and I will look more closely at the Dash capabilities/code.



 

Would this be the same when using a throne.conf?

Once the current code update is complete, you should be able to do exactly this - IIRC you simply specify a payout address for each throne in your throne.conf file. You can send all your throne payouts to the same paper wallet or whatever suits you.

I'd love to help with testing too.. but will need some handholding on how to do since I am new to this stuff....

Along those lines -- if I am testing stuff on the machine which I am also running my thrones from, then I will worry about any security holes I might be opening up -- which is probably less of a risk than just running windows anyway -- but got me thinking...

I would like to be able to specify a "pay to address" in the Crowncoin.conf file of each throne -- so that the thrones could just receive all their payments in one address, rather than each throne receiving payments in the same address which the collateral is kept in.  The primary benefit of this is segmenting the earnings from the collateral at the address and also wallet level, so that coin locking isn't an issue and also so that I can just keep the collateral separate -- just like I would with "real world" collateral... so I am also just trying to push the digital process to look more like it's real world analog, which has been tested in its own way for centuries, so has some lessons to teach -- despite it's other obvious bugs...

I would put the pay to address in the Crowncoin.conf because then it points to and you can see whether you are receiving payments from your wallet you are managing the throne from -- it feels like there could be a one-many problem where more than one thone.conf could seem to claim a throne somehow if one were to specify the pay to address from the throne management wallet...  but I just thought of this about 30 minutes ago when I thought about helping test some code -- so am still thinking it through...   

This also have the benefit of not relying on the ephemeral wallet locking function or other wallet coin control to secure the collateral -- but would allow it to be kept offline in paper wallets or some other "vault" -- laptop in a freezer in a cave in Switzerland (crypto meets cryo?)... never understood vaults... seems like laminated paper or something else preserved that way and kept in a binder is probably best... but I like using three ring binders to save notes, articles, clips and other things that I want to be able to look at later -- my own person idiosyncracy.

Thoughts?

Sure, pester infernoman for a new Win build...    -   Or I can point you at the repo if you can build yourself.

Testing you say.  Can I help?