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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1467. (Read 9723796 times)

legendary
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Aren't you a bit ahead of yourself there ?

Feeling impatient ?  Wink

always am
 Wink
legendary
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Aren't you a bit ahead of yourself there ?

Feeling impatient ?  Wink
legendary
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sr. member
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bovine quadruped, professional loafer, dash dev

LATEST DASH WALLET IS ALWAYS ON WWW.DASH.ORG


downloading from anywhere else will most likely cost you your coin.


with the one exception of development builds found here:

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/builds/allPlans.action
member
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Hi All, I have a dark coin wallet v0.11.1.25 . I want to send them to a dash wallet.

Do I download the latest dash client and then swap in the wallet.dat from the dark wallet to the dash wallet?

Thanks in advance

Yes.

Latest dash wallet: https://mega.nz/#!69tSGIYC!T1LsGCgZ3xrPxD_f1DH5wG9PyvEAQTnGQSrXr8zusx0

But be sure to make a backup of your dark wallet.

DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM ANYWHERE BUT www.dash.org


Thank you for your time
legendary
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Hi All, I have a dark coin wallet v0.11.1.25 . I want to send them to a dash wallet.

Do I download the latest dash client and then swap in the wallet.dat from the dark wallet to the dash wallet?

Thanks in advance

Yes.

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But be sure to make a backup of your dark wallet.

For anyone that is reading, make sure to always download wallets etc. from the official website.
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
Nice RBF rally in the Dash market, ATM. It seems Evolution's contrast with Bitcoin's "blocks for the highest bidder" approach works for people...
sr. member
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bovine quadruped, professional loafer, dash dev
It's extremely difficult to find a system that can have very low to no fees and that isn't simultaneously open to abuse by a script-kiddie... unless that system doesn't actually store a ledger but rather something like ...balances which shift.

Actually even then you can spam it by creating a lot of balance addresses that would require XX bytes to store, just by sending a no-fee tx of 1 satoshi / duff to a veeeery long list of random addresses. So, I really can't think of how you can make a promise of zero to very low fees and infinite scaling when you are also opening yourself to an attack vector.

But then again, I'm not the coder here.

Difficult, but not impossible.

All these scenarios are being considered. Smiley

To be a little less vague, quorum acceptance of dapi requests has some intelligence baked in.

responses to novel attacks are also in the works.
newbie
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Monero Specifications

•PoW algorithm: CryptoNight [1]
•Max supply: Infinite (see note below) [2]
•Block reward: Smoothly varying [3]

Finally fixed the max supply.  Nice stealth update! So now the coin has infinite amounts!  LOL

TO INFINITY AND BEYOND LOL!
newbie
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Hello DASHers,

The monero guys have asked me to provide them with proof that one of their devs was bragging about having back doors and no users being aware of them because they are stoopid in an irc chat.  I know I read a post about it but I can't find it.  If anyone can help me find that post, it will help to destroy their credibility.  Can anyone help me find it?  Yes, I know, I should have bookmaked it or something.  I am human.  Thank you, vvrroomm

P.S. See I can be nice.  I hate lies.  Have a good day.
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
Actually, I think that there will always be a tiny minimal fee, no?
Nope.



Zero-fee transactions standard!
legendary
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Toknormal, Your post above is great, but what can we do to make this understandable to the non-crypto initiated?

It doesn't necessarily work - at least as far as widespread adoption is concerned. Explaining and communicating the technical advantages can only get you so far - e.g. to the "thinkers". To get the real economy to absorb the benefits needs either financial incentives or brute force.

The WIMPS system (Windows, Icons and Pull-Down Menus) went through 3 incarnations of convincing "thinkers" before it really went mainstream. And it wasn't the same technology - or company - that ultimately did it.

[1] XEROX invented it, [2] Apple sold it and [3] Microsoft dominated it.

The reason it got from [1] to [2] was because the boffins in Xerox managed to convince the technically literate at Apple. But the reason it got from [2] to [3] was ultimately because of the IBM monopoy's big achilles heel.


That was that they were mainframe manufacturers and couldn't re-tool fast enough to jump on the "micro" revolution. The "brute force" bit was that Bill Gates managed to get IBM to contract him to write their OS. Thus it went from PC-DOS to MS-DOS and Microsoft went from outsider to insider overnight. That gave them the monopoly they needed to sho-horn their own GUI into the market (first Windows 3.0 in 1990 and later Windows 95) and keep the lid on Apple's technological lead.

What Must Dash do Therefore ?

All industrial precedents must be studied and all possible historical lessons learned - both technological and commercial. What the 80's/90's lessons seem to say is that Dash must look for monopolies with an achilles heel which its unique advantages directly address. (These don't necessarily have to be big - they can be "mini-monopolies" or dominant interests in specific markets). In particular, it has to identify clear markets where the integrated approach trumps the technologically diverse one. With Apple it was desktop publishing and music. (In fact even Atari had a dominant market presence in music studios for a while with etheir GEM OS).

The obvious one for Dash is Bitpay and the POS market. Dash's instant transactions are infinitely more secure than bitcoin's and Bitpay is mass-marketing those. So the technical bit is there, it's the politics that's the unknown. It was politics that let Microsoft put their foot in the door of Apple's progress (at least at the start).

Look what's happening with Bitcoin - that's all politics as well because we now have a well funded, commercially interested party (Blockstream) that bought itself a significant chunk of the bitcoin core developer personnel. (I realise some of them are founders themselves but they're not the significant funders).

The way to get politics on your side is simply to have something that no-one else has or can easily reproduce. That can be to "own" certain markets as well just as owning certain technologies. It's a no brainer therefore that the corporate world would want to get its hands on at least some of the tiny group with commit access to bitcoin core - and that's exactly what they've been able to do.

There are many sectors I'm sure that Dash can put roots into, however large or small. Sometimes a tiny strategic presence can be as important as a large, high turnover one.

Here's one  I stumbled across the other day. This woman runs a business which secures creative work for artists and massively increases security for purchasers in terms of mitigating counterfeit copies of stuff like paintings. It appears to be a growing business but the "digital footprint" service is centralised. She sees bitcoin as a "competitor" and is wondering how to proceed. (In fact she see blockchains in general as competitors to her business).

People like that have "achilles heels" and are desperate to address them. They are fertile ground for products and services which come along and turn their weakness into a strength. They don't need to be sold on nerdy concepts of cryptocurrency, just given a solution with minimum hassle.

I'm not saying for sure that that type of business is Dash's target market - but it may well be one of them since Dash can probably do BOTH the securing of the digital footprint and also provide an online, secure micro payment service. I'm just highlighting that example as a case where marketing and identifying your commercial strengths are more important than explaining technical details.

P.S.

Sorry to screw with your post Tok, but this was too inaccurate:

Very nice ! You're too right.
hero member
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Actually, I think that there will always be a tiny minimal fee, no?  And Evan has submitted a plan for larger entities, like businesses, to pay a (small) fee, while keeping most user's access virtually free (probably some kind of tiny fee to mitigate attacks?) 

As a merchant...I'm ok with a Fee.  There is no way that you can sustain a system without maintenance fees of some sort, i believe.
legendary
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Actually, I think that there will always be a tiny minimal fee, no?  And Evan has submitted a plan for larger entities, like businesses, to pay a (small) fee, while keeping most user's access virtually free (probably some kind of tiny fee to mitigate attacks?) 
legendary
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Sorry to screw with your post Tok, but this was too inaccurate:


Out of curiosity, how does RBF "murder" 0-conf transactions ?

P.S. Non-articulated protocols. The internet already binned them 50 years ago so no-one needs to be surprised. You can't fix one thing without screwing another. Elephant in the room.

Can't fix capacity without screwing with blocksize.
Can't fix anonymity without screwing with  transparency.
Can't fix speed without screwing with confirmations.



sr. member
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Hi!

How do I stake this coin?

Thanks!

There is no stake in the traditional sense. But can earn interest (currently 14% p.a.) for running a masternode (1000 Dash required). https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Masternode+guides

I see!

Thanks for the info!
legendary
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It's extremely difficult to find a system that can have very low to no fees and that isn't simultaneously open to abuse by a script-kiddie... unless that system doesn't actually store a ledger but rather something like ...balances which shift.

Actually even then you can spam it by creating a lot of balance addresses that would require XX bytes to store, just by sending a no-fee tx of 1 satoshi / duff to a veeeery long list of random addresses. So, I really can't think of how you can make a promise of zero to very low fees and infinite scaling when you are also opening yourself to an attack vector.

But then again, I'm not the coder here.
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