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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1471. (Read 9723803 times)

legendary
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Cryptanalyst castrated by his government, 1952
Dash / Darkcoin mentioned:

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1231/RAND_RR1231.pdf

This stood out in my opinion:

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See El Defrawy and Lampkins, 2014. The alt-coin Dash (formerly Darkcoin) may be viewed as semi-centralized in some respects due to its Masternode construct, but this is mainly for anonymity purposes—the other functions of the currency are performed analogously to Bitcoin; See also Dash, undated (b).

I am interested that the RAND corporation and/or HRL labs (El Defrawy's employer) are mentioning cryptocurrency, particularly DASH. The days of amateur trolling here may be nearing an end - the game is more subtle in the big leagues.

Speaking of which, the phrase "may be viewed as semi-centralized" does not mean the same as "is semi-centralized", and the phrase "semi-centralized" does not mean the same as "centralized". I have no idea what "semi-centralized" actually does mean, but I sense mischief is in the air.
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Why is she saying "Happy Holidays" ? Whats wrong with "Happy Christmas" Huh

Tantestefana will answer it better, but the idea was - to make this video International.
And in different countries there are different Holiday names and traditions.
For example in Russia just a small percentage of people celebrates Christmas (on "7" of January). The name of main Holiday is "The New Year".
But there is no "New Year" in China in nearest 40 days. And so on...
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Why is she saying "Happy Holidays" ? Whats wrong with "Happy Christmas" Huh
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For those who use these words not knowing what they mean.
Especially for lazy iHerd



You simply can't get anonymity without cryptography.

I think you're mixing up anonymity, privacy, fungibility and encryption.

Four very different things which have potentially nothing to do with each other and which are optimally deployed in very different use cases.

Anonymity basically alludes to anything that doesn't have a name attached to it. Where the medium is perfectly visible but where any association with individuals has to be gleaned from outside of that medium. For example, if I receive an anonymous message from some woman telling me that she loves me then the message is perfectly visible, it just doesn't have her name on it. I have to start doing research outside of the realm of valentine cards to find out who sent it. I can show the card to all and sundry and it's still anonymous.

Privacy, on the other hand alludes to a restricted audience. For example if someone goes to the crapper and locks the door, they'll be the only individual partaking of the experience. If you make a bank transaction, only you and the bank staff will be privy to it. In neither of these cases, though are you "anonymous".

Encryption is one method of enforcing a restricted audience - i.e. privacy. It does not, however, make you anonymous.

Fungibility is a property of a (monetary) medium which makes 1 unit of that medium indistinguishable from another unit. Fungibility does not necessarily enforce privacy because it doesn't "hide" anything. But it does mitigate the propensity to discover the historical movements of a unit of that medium. Fungibility therefore DOES boost anonymity in a way that encryption doesn't.

If my anonymous admirer sent me a totally fungible valentines card that was printed with nothing but I LOVE YOU on white card, and all other valentines cards in the world were exactly the same, I'd have a damn site harder time tracing her than if it was handwritten fluorescent pen that was only available in one shop in my local town. Either way, no recourse to encryption is needed. Nor is it with regular cash, precious metals or any other monetary media that have been floating around for centuries, serving as the reference standard for monetary anonymity.
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legendary
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Dash / Darkcoin mentioned:

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1231/RAND_RR1231.pdf

This stood out in my opinion:

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See El Defrawy and Lampkins, 2014. The alt-coin Dash (formerly Darkcoin) may be viewed as semi-centralized in some respects due to its Masternode construct, but this is mainly for anonymity purposes—the other functions of the currency are performed analogously to Bitcoin; See also Dash, undated (b).

noted

interesting but old
they wrote this 12 month ago and published 6 month ago
so this does not really have a voice anymore as 12 month in the Dash and/or Crypto world is a long long time
 Wink
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Our pet trolls come and go all together, like in a herd. The question we need to know is...  who is the herdsman?  Wink
legendary
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Dash / Darkcoin mentioned:

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1231/RAND_RR1231.pdf

This stood out in my opinion:

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See El Defrawy and Lampkins, 2014. The alt-coin Dash (formerly Darkcoin) may be viewed as semi-centralized in some respects due to its Masternode construct, but this is mainly for anonymity purposes—the other functions of the currency are performed analogously to Bitcoin; See also Dash, undated (b).
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

For real?? I had bookmarked that paper for a read, but after your quote i'm not sure if i should read it ...
What kind of paper is this if they can't even get the name of DASH right ...
Such a sloppy research on DASH that they even can't get the name right is just so amateurish ...

I'll notify the author to adjust it. Agree it is a bit sloppy, but he isn't the only one who got it wrong.

Maybe it's not sloppy, but a dig at Dash's snake oil and your cargo cult's bad 'bamboo version' of crypto. 

Regardless, it's a good example of why stealing the Dash-coin name for Darkcoin's rebrand was a bad idea.
legendary
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For real?? I had bookmarked that paper for a read, but after your quote i'm not sure if i should read it ...
What kind of paper is this if they can't even get the name of DASH right ...
Such a sloppy research on DASH that they even can't get the name right is just so amateurish ...

I'll notify the author to adjust it. Agree it is a bit sloppy, but he isn't the only one who got it wrong.
sr. member
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Hilarious!
...given a 50% attack on the masternodes...

Yeah, attacking 50% of the masternode network is SO realistic.

I don't know what i should think about this none sense.

TPTB_need_war is talking about "capable on block chain theory tech" ...

And then he is talking about an 50 % attack on the masternodes ... so what is block chain theory tech ? From my understanding in the end it's all about getting a decentralized consensus, in an abstract view consense means more then 50 % ... so yeah if you control more then 50 % you are the one with the most weight and you can in this case perhaps attack DASH, wow, this must be the holy grail of block chain theory tech to understand that someone who has 50 % of the network is capable of "attacking" the network because he can made the consensus of the network by himself.

I really don't know if i should laugh or cry about this block chain theory expert.
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For real?? I had bookmarked that paper for a read, but after your quote i'm not sure if i should read it ...
What kind of paper is this if they can't even get the name of DASH right ...
Such a sloppy research on DASH that they even can't get the name right is just so amateurish ...
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bovine quadruped, professional loafer, dash dev
I've spend a couple evenings fleshing out the Proposal section outlining the procedure and best practices for creating DDGB budget proposals.
Voting and Budget sections will follow.

Those interested, please take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions.  [email protected]

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Using+Decentralized+Governance%3A+Proposals%2C+Voting%2C+and+Budgets

Thanks!
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
The Dash governance system has been a great success.

Nonsense on stilts.

Dash's governance system is broken because two entities (Duffield and Otoh) control too many Masternodes.

And this problem is compounded by the 1% chance of an 'easter egg' double payment, which causes the rich to get richer.

If you want to see PoW-PoS hybrid vote-by-blockchain governance being done right, check out Decred.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndcr-decred-community-governance-bitcoin-devs-lightning-network-1290358
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So it looks like we have our house troll pets back after their little 2 day break, so far that includes :

arielbit
iCEBREAKER
Drklvr

I guess once a troll gets addicted to our ANN forum, there is no escaping it ... it drags them kicking and screaming
right back to us  Roll Eyes

Are you a troll and feeling angry, insecure or just very very stressed out about the upcoming Dash Evolution or the Miami Bitcoin Conference in January 2016?  I have the cure just for you  :




Disclosure of Dash Evolution : https://www.dash.org/evolution/



Dash Evolution creates a new type of cryptographic currency with various advanced features that assist in the creation of decentralized technology. Dash introduces a tiered network design, which allows users to do various jobs for the network, along with decentralized API access and a decentralized file system.

We will be writing the software for this project in stages, the first stage will take about 2 months to have a very early prototype for Dash Evolution that includes a basic implementation of DashDrive, Primitives, DAPI and a simple T3 wallet. In six to eight months, we should be entering testnet phase with most basic functionality. In 12-18 months, we plan for the first release version (a stable prototype).

Included below is our current work on Evolution, that adds many components such as:

• DashDrive – A decentralized shared file system that lives on the second tier network
• DAPI – A decentralized API which allows third tier users to access the network securely
• DashPay Decentralized Wallets – These wallets are light clients connected to the network via DAPI and run on various platforms
• Second Tier – The masternode network, which provides compensated infrastructure for the project
• Budgets – The second tier is given voting power to allocate funds for specific projects on the network via the budget system
• Governance – The second tier is given voting power to govern the currency and chart the course the currency takes
• Quorum Chain – This feature introduces a permanent stable masternode list, which can be used to calculate past and present quorums
• Primitives – We introduce Users, Groups and Accounts which allow a common way of interacting with the network.
• Social Wallet – By utilizing primitives, we introduce a social wallet, which allows friends lists, grouping of users and shared accounts.
• DSQL – A query language for administering the network via majority quorums (banning users, setting important network variables such as sporks on/off, etc)

Evolution Documentation Release

We’re going to try something different with the development of Dash Evolution. This is a social experiment on building an entire currency completely in the open, with extreme transparency, as such, things will change constantly. This is intended to be an open discovery process that helps us to create the best possible implementation, GUI and feature set for Dash Evolution.  Help us to flesh out these documents by editing, correcting or even coming up with new ideas that we could work into the system.

The documentation below is intended to be very high level, which should give a clear understanding of how to build and secure such a system. These aren’t really intended to be whitepapers, just simple technical documents showing the design choices and structures.

Many of these documents are outlines of ideas of how different pieces of Dash Evolution will work, they aren’t complete, feel free to add to these as well. To help us, simply click the “EDIT” button, then request access to the given documents. Please do not edit the documents directly, instead use the google docs “Suggest” feature. This is intended to be an open discussion of the technology in the documents, that will evolve with the project.

Thanks!

Evan Duffield



We will be releasing many more documents not here yet in the near future, please keep coming back to see updates and progress of Evolution.

Releases: Last Updated – December 4th, 2015





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bump~!
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legendary
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Sorry for the mess,
but the team is hard at work !
(and are tripping out on the new stickers)
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Bump
to destruct you guys with 'pretty pictures'
as this trolling things is soon laaaaaame !
legendary
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The Dash governance system has been a great success.  The ability for the network itself to pivot and dedicate resources to different areas depending on the needs of a changing market environment is our biggest competitive advantage.

This was clear in our recent experience in Mexico City. This aspect of the project was what all of the industry leaders that were there liked the most about Dash. There was universal agreement that this can help the project be autonomous and adapt faster. It is a superior model to manage and grow a cryptocurrency network.

It allows Dash to build relationships and develop partnerships to help bootstrap its economy in the areas it needs. It is the only coin that can do blockchain contracting and establish a long term collaboration with an interesting partner in a particular area. We are working hard on a couple of these partnerships in areas that can be key for the development of Dash. Hopefully things go well and we get to end 2015 with a couple of great wins.

Stay tuned.









Great!

OH..here got another rat account HAHA .... first post darkcoin and forever darkcoin..and not newbie-ish

raico, what is your love at first sight story with darkcoin?

welcome to my list  Wink https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13200467
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Good news: Dash-coin is finally being mentioned in actual cryptographic literature.

Bad news: Dash-coin is mentioned only as an example of what Peter Todd calls "bad crypto."

https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1098.pdf

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One benefit of using the above types of ring signatures over other
anonymizing techniques, such as CoinJoin or using coin mixing
services, is that they allow for “spontaneous” mixing. With CoinJoin
or coin mixers, it is similarly possible to hide the originator of a given
transaction, however these techniques in practice need some sort of
centralized group manager, such as a centralized CoinJoin server, where
transactions are combined by a trusted party. In the case that the
trusted party is compromised, the anonymity of the transaction is also
compromised.

Some coins such as Dashcoin, attempt to negate this by using
a larger number of trusted mixers (in this case masternodes) but this
number is still much smaller than the users of the coin.


In contrast, with a spontaneous ring signature, transactions can be created by the
owner of a given pubkey (this is the spontaneous, or “ad-hoc” property)
without relying on any trusted server, and thus providing for safer
anonymity.
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