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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 2260. (Read 9723858 times)

legendary
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I don't agree that a few percent of the coins mined by someone who optimized the miner is  "significantly" instamined or premined. If we restrict it to the period before the obviously deliberate de-optimization was remove then it is probably 1% or less.

Yes, I guess you are right. But wait, maybe its more than that.

....
If you want to express the effect of the deliberately de-optimized miner in terms of the current supply of monero it would be around 2.5x (roughly 1/2.5 of the nominal total coin supply currently exists), so probably <2.5%.

If you want to express the effect of some people optimizing miners better than others, that might be as much as 12.5% or more if you consider that it goes on forever (for every coin, nothing special about Monero).

Monero scam launch code doesn't equal instamine, apparently. So 1m instamined Monero coins is ok. No scams in Monero launch  Undecided

Hypocrisy needs to be added to the Trollero 'dev' cv.

Oh my gosh. If we were pack hunting, like the Trolleros, someone would post this on coinmarketcap and say - hey, the Scam mined Monero 'dev' admitted that Monero code was deliberately deoptimised causing an instamine / premine that scammed legitimate miners out of 1m coins.

As Monero is so 'anon', these coins are probably hidden from everyone waiting to be dumped on all the suckers monero trolls can sucker into their big fat scam fest.

Well, that's all folks.

I'll just leave the scam mine trolleros to work out how their 'dev' let slip about their dirty little secret they hoped would never come out.

~1m scam mined Moneros. All hidden away somewhere.

Monero made some admissions too. What a nice dirty little secret you've all been hiding. ~1m scam mined coins.
legendary
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******* Amber Alert [1] Tuesday competition ********

!!!! CASH PRIZES !!!!

Dash has significant technical technical objectives which it already has or is attempting to achieve short term.

Each of these 3 technical objectives are bitcoin problems which have been widely debated in bitcoin forums and who's solution is as yet ambiguous. The difference with bitcoin or its competitors is that Dash is the only crypto currency project that is trying to achieve those objectives without compromising some other valuable property.

Question. What are the 3 objective / property pairs ?

[significant new objective] without recourse to [valuable existing property]
[significant new objective] without recourse to [valuable existing property]
[significant new objective] without recourse to [valuable existing property]

There are 3 (and only 3) new objectives. There are 3 (and only 3) existing properties which Dash is attempting to preserve, so in total 6 valuable properties will be secured for crypto currencies.

REWARDS: 5 Dash for each correct pair i.e. you need to get at least one pair - the property thats being pursued and the property thats being preserved for 5 Dash. If you get all 3 then it's a 15 Dash reward.

POST YOUR ADDRESS !!!! CLUES IN 15 MINUTES IF NO CORRECT REPLY.

CLUE 1: No other crypto is currently attempting to optimise these 6 properties independently. All of Dash's competitors are optimising these properties at the expense of each other.

CLUE 2: Clues will be given if no answers within 15 minutes.

CLUE 3: I have mentioned all 6 properties in my posting history

******* Amber Alert [2] ********

There will be a follow up compo for 20 Dash.


Funding .......... Without recourse?  I don't understand.  Via the blockchain rewards - no reliance on donations
legendary
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It's 1am. I'm off to bed.

Can't you post the competition again around lunchtime, GMT tomorrow?  I'll have a break, coffee and can otherwise have a go at all of the above.

(thanks to everyone around the world for working around my schedule  Grin)
legendary
Activity: 3066
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******* Amber Alert [1] Tuesday competition ********

!!!! CASH PRIZES !!!!

Dash has significant technical technical objectives which it already has or is attempting to achieve short term.

Each of these 3 technical objectives are bitcoin problems which have been widely debated in bitcoin forums and who's solution is as yet ambiguous. The difference with bitcoin or its competitors is that Dash is the only crypto currency project that is trying to achieve those objectives without compromising some other valuable property.

Question. What are the 3 objective / property pairs ?

[significant new objective] without recourse to [valuable existing property]
[significant new objective] without recourse to [valuable existing property]
[significant new objective] without recourse to [valuable existing property]

There are 3 (and only 3) new objectives. There are 3 (and only 3) existing properties which Dash is attempting to preserve, so in total 6 valuable properties will be secured for crypto currencies.

REWARDS: 5 Dash for each correct pair i.e. you need to get at least one pair - the property thats being pursued and the property thats being preserved for 5 Dash. If you get all 3 then it's a 15 Dash reward.

POST YOUR ADDRESS !!!! CLUES IN 15 MINUTES IF NO CORRECT REPLY.

CLUE 1: No other crypto is currently attempting to optimise these 6 properties independently. All of Dash's competitors are optimising these properties at the expense of each other.

CLUE 2: Clues will be given if no answers within 15 minutes.

CLUE 3: I have mentioned all 6 properties in my posting history

******* Amber Alert [2] ********

There will be a follow up compo for 20 Dash.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
Dev Team needs to be on top of this !! Pls have someone contact them so they can rectify the situation !!

Everyone else pls fill in a requestform requesting you want to have the premine indication removed from DASH / Darkcoin
at : http://coinmarketcap.com/




The team has sent an official email, but no response yet.

I filled out their form which is at the bottom of the page.
full member
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According to github, he has all of eight commits in the project's main repo

Most of my technical work on the project does not involve directly pushing code to github, as was discussed at the link below. Nevertheless the github search function is broken and doesn't show all my commits (also shown a few posts down):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10875573

Wow, that must be some pretty boring stuff that you're working on. Most coders I know have to be pried from their screens if they're working on something interesting. If they start checking their Facebook (or other disctraction of choice) every five minutes, it's usually a sign that they're bored out of their minds..
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Something tells me that 2015 will be remembered as the year of the nodes.
legendary
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 February 4th 2015... Fernando Gutierrez and Evan Duffield are interviwed by Adam Falls on "Beyond Bitcoin", back in the day when Dash was still called Darkcoin.

 I suggest anyone with serious intentions to make their own considerations about what this coins is all about to listen to this podcast. And since then, yet another leap in technology is about to emerge.

 Listen to what a real serious dev has to say, who spends his time innovating, not smoothing around other people's threads talking trash.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/beyond-bitcoin-26-darkcoin
legendary
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Merit: 1006
Considering Coinmarketcap is now blatantly lying, this could use an RT or FAV:

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/592812964798926848

Tao


Dev Team needs to be on top of this !! Pls have someone contact them so they can rectify the situation !!

Everyone else pls fill in a requestform requesting you want to have the premine indication removed from DASH / Darkcoin
at : http://coinmarketcap.com/



Done.
legendary
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Merit: 1004
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Reinventing the wheel remember... I know pretty well what those merges bring and they have nothing related to X11, Darksend, InstantX or the two tier masternode functionality.

And no, you don't have anything usable to show for all that work!

Now back on ignore, I had my fun.

Sorry guys for all the troll quoting.... I was bored  Embarrassed
legendary
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 Totally unprofessional, as is the norm in this thread...
 
 The day smooth met AdamWhite...  Grin

 
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Considering Coinmarketcap is now blatantly lying, this could use an RT or FAV:

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/592812964798926848

Tao


Tao you need to be more careful with this kind of thing, this can be resolved as a mere misunderstanding as their admin has been offline since he acted prematurely and we are seeking an official answer. But this does not help, we need to be more prudent please and a little patient as everyone is in different time zones.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Chickun chomping too much to fly:



legendary
Activity: 2548
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Considering Coinmarketcap is now blatantly lying, this could use an RT or FAV:

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/592812964798926848

Tao


Dev Team needs to be on top of this !! Pls have someone contact them so they can rectify the situation !!

Everyone else pls fill in a requestform requesting you want to have the premine indication removed from DASH / Darkcoin
at http://coinmarketcap.com/




 It's being taken care of. Official channels have been engaged. The admin has been offline, but I'm sure it will be resolved soon enough.

thats a relieve .. thanks for the info.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Considering Coinmarketcap is now blatantly lying, this could use an RT or FAV:

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/592812964798926848

Tao


Dev Team needs to be on top of this !! Pls have someone contact them so they can rectify the situation !!

Everyone else pls fill in a requestform requesting you want to have the premine indication removed from DASH / Darkcoin
at http://coinmarketcap.com/




 It's being taken care of. Official channels have been engaged. The admin has been offline, but I'm sure it will be resolved soon enough.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Harem scarem trading battles taking place on BTCe right now.

Laptop being hovercrafted again. The old Core-2 duos barely being kept alive to redraw bitcoinwisdom's rendition of trollbox panic in the BTC / USD market.
legendary
Activity: 2548
Merit: 1245
Considering Coinmarketcap is now blatantly lying, this could use an RT or FAV:

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/592812964798926848

Tao


Dev Team needs to be on top of this !! Pls have someone contact them so they can rectify the situation !!

Everyone else pls fill in a requestform requesting you want to have the premine indication removed from DASH / Darkcoin
at : http://coinmarketcap.com/


legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Good to have smooth posting here to keep us right on what's a scam, what isn't, partial scams, adherence to emission curves, distinction between premines, instamines and general crypto ethics.

There is no better place to get the benefit of smooth's wisdom than in the Dash thread  Wink

(His 80's haircut is also the 'business').

P.S. And apparently since I last posted we've now got 2-stars on coinmarketcap - nice !
full member
Activity: 219
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Smooth & the Gang.

".... I don't like the history of one bit"  AWWW, muffin!  Kiss

Loves the history of his scam mined coin, he was, after all, there at the start  Wink

There was nothing wrong with the history of Monero. It's one of if not the cleanest coins and launches in history. In reality the only ones who criticize it are Dash supporters defensively lashing out at anything they can because they don't like their history being put under the microscope. Even people like BlockaFett who have bothered to actually look into it have recognized that it isn't a scam. He still doesn't like how we dislike and criticize Dash, but that doesn't make Monero a scam.

The miner crap you keep bringing up didn't matter at all. Everyone who wanted to mine could not only mine on their own computers easily enough but could pay for cloud mining and still mine at a profit. You could mine as much as you wanted and get as many coins as you wanted. The only real difference was that the people with the optimized miners had lower costs so their profit was higher (they still paid a lot though). There was effectively zero instamine (better than even most other honestly-launched coins with slowly difficulty adjustment). Access to coins or mining was not limited in any way whatsoever.

Sorry for quoting the trolls guys but...

I'm keeping this quote for future reference, this is gold. Smooth you are one of if not the most toxic person i have ever known of at BCT. I actually own quite a considerable amount of XMR and i am frankly embarrassed of your behaviour as a lead dev. I think you need to spend more time on doing what dev's do rather than comment on other coins. All this energy spent on XMR would have went a long way but rather you chose this path.

Now you can come back and twist this post and my words until you turn blue in the face, but its becoming more apparent to me that you can polish a turd but at the end of the day its still a turd. I finally get why you do what you do, it makes perfect sense now.
legendary
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Considering Coinmarketcap is now blatantly lying, this could use an RT or FAV:

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/592812964798926848

Tao
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