Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6281. (Read 9723733 times)

Can someone make an executive decision on branding and everything else related so this coin can move beyond that discussion already? I can't believe the developer is allowing this to go on indefinitely. Not all decisions can be left for the general public to make. There are too many cooks in the kitchen, and it's time someone said let's move on. Spend some coins on a professional entity to perform the task if needed. There is great potential with Dark and every minute we waste time on simple decisions that drag on, we are falling behind simpler coins that offer no value to the market.

This is what you premine complainers wanted right?

I'm largely referring to all the bickering about the branding.

  The discussion in the last pages about the foundation is very interesting.
Unlike you I think that it is healthy, the coin is alive and encourages people to share their ideas (some good and some bad).

I just want to say that I think the arguing going on in this thread is very unprofessional and is hurting the coin. People interested in Darkcoin come to this thread first, and hop to the last page to see what the scoop is. What they're greeted with is chaos, which in turn gives an uneasy feeling about the coin and turns them away. God knows, when I come on this thread myself and read all the B.S. in the last few pages it makes me question whether i'm doing the right thing by holding my DRK.

Please use the dedicated darkcoin talk forums. Please use the proper sections/threads within those forums. Polluting this thread with arguments is not helping our cause.

Disagree.  The key to a coin having the features required to respond to market innovations, facilitate easy mass consumer adoption, and most importantly protect its users and retailers with a safe platform in which to buy and sell goods is to run the coin like a non-profit corporation.  You can't ask 1 or two guys to manage and maintain the payment system forever and just like any startup, there comes a time when the coin will benefit from basic paid representation, development, and marketing.  The key would be to make it lean and cost efficient similar to a condo association.  You don't want corruption to come into play because a person could stand to profit as the fee totals grew along with the coin.  I think an amount similar to 1/50th of the the masternode fees could be enough however and you would want the fee percentage to reduce if the coin grows in value and thus becomes more established on its own.  At $5, 1/50th of the fees would still amount to $3,900/mo.  At $15 you could have the fee move to 1/100th of the masternode fees and that would still be $5,850/mo or $70,200/year.

One of the early important projects would be to hire or pay bounties for a BTC38 exchange listing along with a Mandarin language based road show and marketing plan.  Without an organization to fund these projects then the payment burden should really be on those miners who mined this coin the first day as they are the ones who, from a fairness perspective, should be funding all the early 1st year development of this coin.

I'm trying to curate a list of pools, what the fees are and which are donating - let me know if you want to help edit this wiki or if you can help fill in  the blanks http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/wiki/index .  If you mine at one of these pools and are willing to contact them and convince them to get on the donation train that would be awesome. 

Don't take it the wrong way, but that design was nice in 1995.

I agree. Someone should be hired to run the design/marketing. This is all just clogging up the forum and wasting time. It's nice for people to feel ownership over this but not at the expense of a good outcome. When my NBA team play, I like to call out play suggestions at the TV but I don't assume the team should be looking for my opinion. They're professionals after all. I invest in companies on the stock exchange - I get to vote on major decisions but I don't get involved in minute details of marketing. Same should apply here. Voluntary payments can pay for someone to take care of it for us.

Not again with the logo !  There was a vote, deal with it.

So true.

We have a chance to get added to coinpayments.net, everyone should head over there and cast a vote! https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

This voluntary foundation is a great idea.

I believe there are some things Darkcoin needs right now from the marketing world. I think dime is right that we don't need actual marketing just yet, but we do need a professional, informative website. Part of that is design & branding. All of that -- website, branding, design -- are under the marketing umbrella.

Beating a dead horse here, but I strongly suggest caution in taking the advice or work of people who aren't professionals in the biz. Sorry to be blunt, but some of the ideas & mockups being shopped around here are awful. This should be obvious to anyone with a discriminatory eye and some experience with modern design principles. But if it's not obvious, just hire a professional, please.

I love this idea, however we do not have this foundation at the moment guys. So please donate whatever you can to our bounty wallet so we can get projects such as marketing etc underway. Dogecoins at the top purely because of their generous community, we can make it far beyond them by being generous to our fund wallet and providing a real world monetary privacy solution.

Some great ideas here! The voluntary payment option is much better than the previously mentioned master node "tax". Maybe it would also be possible to include in the wallet an opt-in checkbox for a donation to the foundation of 0.5 or 1% and perhaps the option to add a custom amount (or maybe not - to avoid overcrowding).

edit: Just to clarify, I meant when sending DRK, not 0.5 or 1% of any balances

I will donate 10% of future projects earnings to the foundation....

haha, just bought another 20 DRK with the BTC I made yesterday fleecing those Quebecqois. 

There's plenty of lack of diplomacy to go around and then some. Don't apologize. There will be no offense taken. We need more real talk in here.

I'm not being negative. Read my posts, and followup posts.

The "industry" can't help us at our current stage. Read my latest post.

I don't care about the apple thing so feel free to drop it.

I agree dogecoin does have some pretty good marketing, but behind the marketing, they have community. Which we don't have. They successfully created a trend where people use it to actively tip others to inflate transactions, which is what drove up adoption.

Darkcoin does not have that. Our community consists of 750 pages of people arguing over the color of a logo.

I'm not suggesting we parallelize our marketing strategy with dogecoin (jeez, please no). I'm saying we're at the step before the marketing phase. We need to build community.

We need more people to get off this post and use darkcointalk.org, where we have real forums that people can branch out and talk about other things that build community around darkcoin. We need more people to build more sites that accept darkcoins for whatever purposes.

Right now, newcomers will read about darksend then see that it's not ready. The only people who are going to go for this are speculators. What do speculators do? They pump and dump, or even worse, they fall into pump and dump traps, and lose their money. We need to attract people who see darkcoin as a currency. What makes darkcoin viable as a currency? Darksend. There it is.