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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6277. (Read 9724017 times)

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This assumes the philosophy of intellectual property is compatible with the world of cryptocurrency with a focus on anonymity.

Pure anarchy tends not to work well.

Copycoins would have a choice:

1. Licence DarkSend, benefit from the hard work being done for them and existing market recognition.
2. Use DarkSend unlicenced, good luck getting any serious investment due to the blatant illegality of it
3. Come up with something themselves, ie hard work







Works just fine actually. You going to have the state enforce this IP model? I don't think so.

Give me some examples of functional anarchistic societies that involve more than three hippies living in a commune...

I'm no fan of "the state", but if we can play the system to our advantage at close to zero cost then why not?

In your anarchistic utopia the only currencies that matter will be ammo, water, food, medicine... same as it ever was.

It's the pockets of Anarchy in every society that keeps it moving, nothing could be done without it.... but there's plenty of places you can go on the internet and learn about how wrong you are there. The point is, crypto is the last place intellectual property will be respected... because it only exists in the minds of statists.
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New coin symbol/logo text looking good at www.darkcoin.io

Still too many big scary words underneath it though.
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You know what the barriers for users are to a hard fork? A mandatory wallet update, and if they mine, maybe a miner update. That's it. And auto wallet updating should be implemented anyway. If LTC remains scrypt, it will be forgotten within 12 months. Its whole reason for existing has disappeared.

Exactly.  I was following all of the debate on /r/dogecoin, many were suggesting a switch to x11 (smart IMO) but there were TONS of people making the retarded claim that a hard fork would kill the coin. Hilariously they were not being called out on their nonsense because only a handful of people over there have a clue..  A hardfork is not that big of a deal, and doge (as a community coin that recruits many newbie miners, which is thier main strength) would benefit greatly from a switch to x11.  I think there are a few people in both the LTC and DOGE community who have already invested heavily into ASICs and are spreading nonsense for their own gain.
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Is mining X11  as much ram intensive as scrypt N ?

If you can mine anything else, you can mine DRK, and at half the power consumption.

If what you are asking is can the X11 algo (or chain of algos) be tweaked to exclude ASICs like scrypt-n, then the answer is yes. ANY software can be modified a million times faster than ASIC hardware can be designed and implemented. Litecoin could hard-fork and become ASIC resistant tomorrow, but they are too clueless to do so.

There will be no ASICs produced for X11.

Get on board now, scrypt is dead, and X11 uses half the power of scrypt-n.


I think I just persuaded myself to sell my VTC stash...  Cool

Let's not spread FUD..

The barriers to litecoin hardforking are the exact same as the barriers to darkcoin hardforking to be becoming asic resistant. And litecoin dev team is FAR FAR away from clueless. I own 0 ltc, and tons of drk, but even I know the ltc development team is far ahead of drk's solo dev.

There will be asics produced for X11. It's just a matter of time and Evan himself has already said that he doesn't see that as a bad thing and welcomes it.

I have no problem with the statement that scrypt is dead. It's surely dying, and rightfully so.

You know what the barriers for users are to a hard fork? A mandatory wallet update, and if they mine, maybe a miner update. That's it. And auto wallet updating should be implemented anyway. If LTC remains scrypt, it will be forgotten within 12 months. Its whole reason for existing has disappeared.
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Thanks, I'm jumping on the board Smiley Do we have any profitablity mining calculator? etc Cheesy

You can use this calculator: https://cointweak.com/calculator/coin/drk

use the avg 24hr difficulty and avg block reward from here: http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.html
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Is mining X11  as much ram intensive as scrypt N ?

If you can mine anything else, you can mine DRK, and at half the power consumption.

If what you are asking is can the X11 algo (or chain of algos) be tweaked to exclude ASICs like scrypt-n, then the answer is yes. ANY software can be modified a million times faster than ASIC hardware can be designed and implemented. Litecoin could hard-fork and become ASIC resistant tomorrow, but they are too clueless to do so.

There will be no ASICs produced for X11.

Get on board now, scrypt is dead, and X11 uses half the power of scrypt-n.


I think I just persuaded myself to sell my VTC stash...  Cool

Didn't you read the Darkcoin third amendment?

No DRK holder shall be in possession of VTC.

Sell'em quick.

The VTC team have done a lot of things right, one of them being getting retailers on board, as eltito suggested. Someone needs to approach every retailer that accepts VTC and ask them to accept DRK as well. There's a handy list on the VTC reddit, and there ought to be a similar list on the DRK website etc.
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Is mining X11  as much ram intensive as scrypt N ?

If you can mine anything else, you can mine DRK, and at half the power consumption.

If what you are asking is can the X11 algo (or chain of algos) be tweaked to exclude ASICs like scrypt-n, then the answer is yes. ANY software can be modified a million times faster than ASIC hardware can be designed and implemented. Litecoin could hard-fork and become ASIC resistant tomorrow, but they are too clueless to do so.

There will be no ASICs produced for X11.

Get on board now, scrypt is dead, and X11 uses half the power of scrypt-n.


I think I just persuaded myself to sell my VTC stash...  Cool

Let's not spread FUD..

The barriers to litecoin hardforking are the exact same as the barriers to darkcoin hardforking to be becoming asic resistant. And litecoin dev team is FAR FAR away from clueless. I own 0 ltc, and tons of drk, but even I know the ltc development team is far ahead of drk's solo dev.

There will be asics produced for X11. It's just a matter of time and Evan himself has already said that he doesn't see that as a bad thing and welcomes it.

I have no problem with the statement that scrypt is dead. It's surely dying, and rightfully so.
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Thanks, I'm jumping on the board Smiley Do we have any profitablity mining calculator? etc Cheesy

It's hard to do an accurate profit calculator as the block reward changes, and the diff changes with each block, often significantly.

But as a rough guide, I get about 10 DRK/day with 13Mh, averaged over the last two weeks.
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Is mining X11  as much ram intensive as scrypt N ?

If you can mine anything else, you can mine DRK, and at half the power consumption.

If what you are asking is can the X11 algo (or chain of algos) be tweaked to exclude ASICs like scrypt-n, then the answer is yes. ANY software can be modified a million times faster than ASIC hardware can be designed and implemented. Litecoin could hard-fork and become ASIC resistant tomorrow, but they are too clueless to do so.

There will be no ASICs produced for X11.

Get on board now, scrypt is dead, and X11 uses half the power of scrypt-n.


I think I just persuaded myself to sell my VTC stash...  Cool

Didn't you read the Darkcoin third amendment?

No DRK holder shall be in possession of VTC.

Sell'em quick.
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Thanks, I'm jumping on the board Smiley Do we have any profitablity mining calculator? etc Cheesy
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I'm asking if my miner's ram ( 2GB )  would slow down the cards not allowing them achieving its max capacity Smiley
As scrypt mining is dead as you have said i'm considering Vertcoin or Darkcoin so I'm asking Cheesy

If you mine with linux/BAMT/PIMP then 2GB RAM will be fine unless you have 290s and want to run insanely high thread counts. But with X11 you don't need huge TC, and you often get better results with much lower intensity, eg. I13 instead of I19.

And if you're running 290s you can afford another 2GB RAM stick anyway. Wink
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I'm asking if my miner's ram ( 2GB )  would slow down the cards not allowing them achieving its max capacity Smiley
As scrypt mining is dead as you have said i'm considering Vertcoin or Darkcoin so I'm asking Cheesy
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Is mining X11  as much ram intensive as scrypt N ?

Short answer : no.  Grin
legendary
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Is mining X11  as much ram intensive as scrypt N ?

If you can mine anything else, you can mine DRK, and at half the power consumption.

If what you are asking is can the X11 algo (or chain of algos) be tweaked to exclude ASICs like scrypt-n, then the answer is yes. ANY software can be modified a million times faster than ASIC hardware can be designed and implemented. Litecoin could hard-fork and become ASIC resistant tomorrow, but they are too clueless to do so.

There will be no ASICs produced for X11.

Get on board now, scrypt is dead, and X11 uses half the power of scrypt-n.


I think I just persuaded myself to sell my VTC stash...  Cool
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added 4 more coins launching with x11, DGW or a combination

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563075.new#new

Evan has officially reached The Fonz status


My personal favorite:

* RAP(e)COIN - DGW

Rapecoin... LOL..  Grin
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Is mining X11  as much ram intensive as scrypt N ?
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I can see how some here might not like the exact phrasing eltito has used, but nearly everything he's said is FUCKING SPOT ON.

+1

If eltito were to volunteer to be Darkcoin's PR guy, I'd vote for him.
legendary
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The way to eliminate competition is by making the network unparalleled. Consider setting up multiple masternodes/darknodes if you can afford it (top wallet guys). If you don't know how to do it, someone can do that here on your behalf. You are only going to protect your own investment by making the network stronger. IMO there should be several hundred masternodes by now but we know what is happening with the coins at the moment  Roll Eyes

Agree. Will be doing so as soon as I have 1000DRK.
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I can see how some here might not like the exact phrasing eltito has used, but nearly everything he's said is FUCKING SPOT ON.

Evan, pick six people, from here or wherever, that you trust, (get real world references etc, anyone offended by the request should be dismissed) and delegate what you need to delegate.

About the licencing thing, I agree that the best way forward is simply to SUCCEED, let the others drown in our wake, but as I said, the licencing is simple, free, and might help, so why not?

coins101's idea about working with other anoncoins was terrible in too many ways to mention.

We beat them, not join them.
legendary
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added 4 more coins launching with x11, DGW or a combination

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563075.new#new

Evan has officially reached The Fonz status

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