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hero member
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Please stop quoting them. Just keep the real conversation going.
legendary
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I think maybe I see a flaw in the current implementation of Darksend.  

When someone attempts DoS by promising to spend a txin in the first round, but then does not authorize the spend in the second round, that txin is blacklisted from the current Darksend negotiation and rounds continue.  Presumably the darksend eventually goes through, minus the txins controlled by attackers.  You can't allow any new txins to be introduced in later rounds, or the attacker could just keep attacking that particular Darksend.

But the attacker can go on attacking forever - he can use a thousand txins over and over, in every Darksend transaction, forcing each of them to go a thousand rounds before it gets to any conclusion.  



Code:
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkSendDocumentation.pdf

I got charged a fee of 0.1 for using DarkSend!

When using DarkSend it’s possible that you’ll be charged 0.1DRK if your client doesn’t
give the network the needed information for some reason. For example your internet
may go out, your computer could shut off, etc. This feature was designed to stop possible
abuse of the system by adding a cost to misbehaving clients.


I got a random payment of 0.1 for having my client on!

Randomly your client may be picked to be master for a few DarkSend sessions. During
these times if anyone attempts to abuse the system, you’ll receive the money that was
lost in the attack, this is yours for supporting the network!


Without paying 0.1 DRK ?


+1

If people were charged micro amounts to send email....there would be no spam.

Actually, why not use DarkCoin as the solution to spam? Fcuk....we should patent that and make it open source before eBay files for a copycat patent on an idea someone else has had.
sr. member
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I think maybe I see a flaw in the current implementation of Darksend.  

When someone attempts DoS by promising to spend a txin in the first round, but then does not authorize the spend in the second round, that txin is blacklisted from the current Darksend negotiation and rounds continue.  Presumably the darksend eventually goes through, minus the txins controlled by attackers.  You can't allow any new txins to be introduced in later rounds, or the attacker could just keep attacking that particular Darksend.

But the attacker can go on attacking forever - he can use a thousand txins over and over, in every Darksend transaction, forcing each of them to go a thousand rounds before it gets to any conclusion.  



Code:
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkSendDocumentation.pdf

I got charged a fee of 0.1 for using DarkSend!

When using DarkSend it’s possible that you’ll be charged 0.1DRK if your client doesn’t
give the network the needed information for some reason. For example your internet
may go out, your computer could shut off, etc. This feature was designed to stop possible
abuse of the system by adding a cost to misbehaving clients.


I got a random payment of 0.1 for having my client on!

Randomly your client may be picked to be master for a few DarkSend sessions. During
these times if anyone attempts to abuse the system, you’ll receive the money that was
lost in the attack, this is yours for supporting the network!


Without paying 0.1 DRK ?
sr. member
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Criticisms:

Your media outreach is a bit unrealistic and it's not helpful to just list the "big boys" and say an article. You want real media outreach. Include the big boys, but you can't expect any of those to take notice of DRK at this point. Your bounty should be way more specific:

1. Compile a list of "influencial" cryptocurrency bloggers to conduct outreach to (approx 10-20 to start). This list needs to include contact information and be approved before outreach begins.

2. Write (and get approved) an outreach letter/email. This should be short and concise introducing the currency, the developer and providing the person you are contacting an incentive to reply back (i.e. the developer is making himself available for an interview, online Q&A sessions).

3. Nominate a single (or no more than a few people) to conduct the outreach. Bounties in the wild will just lead to mass confusion with no one "officially" representing the project. Trust me, if random people just start spamming "WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT DRK" with no real connection to the coin, nothing will happen.

You need to set into place some sort of review & approval process if you want to be professional about this. Set up a real process to conduct outreach If the team is inexperienced have them start with the smaller journalists to do trial runs.

The Security Bounties Are Very Vague
If you are really going to control this, you need to really understand the importance of the testing/QA and final endorsement of the security community to this coin.

Again, random, small bounties for bugs isn't the right approach. You need to get someone in place who can do the research to find a notable third-party, respected party in the world of security and crypto to audit the security and the goal being some sort of endorsement at the end of the process. Right now, these are bug-fixes.

This is the most important part of your list and all other stuff needs to be secondary. Again, if this coin can't deliver on the anonymous stuff, all other efforts are in vein. Getting reviewed by/endorsed by someone notable is what you are striving for.


Thank you, this is excellent critcism. Unfortunately I have a day job and only so much time to coordinate these bounties and write up detailed conditions for security testing. Hmm, maybe I can make a bounty for that...

So on that note: who wants to help define these bounties in more detail, answer queries & validate submissions? I could definitely use the help.

Well PM me if you ever want input, i too have RL job but I do want this to succeed. I think it's one of the very few coins out that has a chance of making something out of itself.

I think you just need to really learn how to prioritize things and focus on the right things to help the coin succeed. This can be done with a simple yes/no question on whether the item is a key factor for success. Many of those items aren't, at this phase, imo.

Look at the hype something like Ethereum gets. It's from technical discussions, whether through articles, white papers and most important conferences.

One item you should amend to the list is a travel fund, if the dev is into it, to get him to go to (and speak at) conferences. Get noticed and many of those other pieces (like media attention and legit parties willing to audit/test the code) fall into place.

legendary
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I think maybe I see a flaw in the current implementation of Darksend.  

When someone attempts DoS by promising to spend a txin in the first round, but then does not authorize the spend in the second round, that txin is blacklisted from the current Darksend negotiation and rounds continue.  Presumably the darksend eventually goes through, minus the txins controlled by attackers.  You can't allow any new txins to be introduced in later rounds, or the attacker could just keep attacking that particular Darksend.

But the attacker can go on attacking forever - he can use a thousand txins over and over, in every Darksend transaction, forcing each of them to go a thousand rounds before it gets to any conclusion.  

sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
Guys my account on Lotterymining.com/drk is LOCKED!?  Cry

I was switching to hidden mode... after that i got kicked and Account Locked

WTF? should i stop hashing... i'm arround 7 Mhash/s
i blocked u because u have low growth in hashing rate. see my video and stop talking about hashrate. I annihilated miners here by huge reaps, that's will rise me to the moon.

i dunno if you are admin or what... but i don't understand what are you talking about... i have coins there...


Don't listen to him, he's just a troll. CHAOSiTEC is the admin of lotterymining, drop him a PM and he should sort you out.
Rux
legendary
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https://crypto.ba
Guys my account on Lotterymining.com/drk is LOCKED!?  Cry

I was switching to hidden mode... after that i got kicked and Account Locked

WTF? should i stop hashing... i'm arround 7 Mhash/s
i blocked u because u have low growth in hashing rate. see my video and stop talking about hashrate. I annihilated miners here by huge reaps, that's will rise me to the moon.

i dunno if you are admin or what... but i don't understand what are you talking about... i have coins there...

what video??
hrt
sr. member
Activity: 288
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Guys my account on Lotterymining.com/drk is LOCKED!?  Cry

I was switching to hidden mode... after that i got kicked and Account Locked

WTF? should i stop hashing... i'm arround 7 Mhash/s
i blocked u because u have low growth in hashing rate. see my video and stop talking about hashrate. I annihilated miners here by huge reaps, that's will rise me to the moon.
legendary
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BitPay guy talking about creating Bitcoin privacy tools.

~21 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F57HIxQuMo
sr. member
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At long last I finished the one-pager for Darkcoin.

You can see the doc here:
http://wowgwow.com/Darkcoin-one-pager.pdf
http://wowgwow.com/Darkcoin-one-pager.docx

From experience, having all the most processed and digested info on one-page makes it very easy for journalists, bloggers, readers etc. to tap in. I believe this will make our marketing efforts much easier.

Since neither English nor technology are my first "languages", please feel free to rephrase anything.

My 2cents.
Rux
legendary
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Guys my account on Lotterymining.com/drk is LOCKED!?  Cry

I was switching to hidden mode... after that i got kicked and Account Locked

WTF? should i stop hashing... i'm arround 7 Mhash/s
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Looks like AnonCoin is experiencing pump and dump traders.

DarkCoin not so much. I think its because we are net buyers, hodlers and few panic sellers. The traders can't seem to entice sheeep into the game, so they are pumping and dumping their own money - they might just as well just give donations to the exchanges and save all the hassle of trading.

 Grin
sr. member
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legendary
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Fantastic, now show your thousands of coins you should have.

You must use his proprietary coinviewer.exe in order to view the balance.  Cheesy

Yes, please....how many coins / day are you minting? Please show, before DarkSend comes out of Beta  Smiley
hero member
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Fantastic, now show your thousands of coins you should have.

You must use his proprietary coinviewer.exe in order to view the balance.  Cheesy
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yoba pool is only mining with 12.12 MH/s so where is the 45 ish MH/s?

Your screenshot clearly show that you're getting less than 500kh/s.

So what's your point ?
Say me honestly, did u use cpu miner at all? Download minerd from github, run it and check how it calculate the hr.

Remove the -q flag from the command and see how much you are getting per thread man. Pretty much when a share is accepted it shows added hashrate of all threads of your CPU, which according to your screenshot is 500kh/s

Hell will freeze over before you can pull 40Mh/s from a cpu.....

And agree with the post above, stop comparing dicks.

EDIT: and rest of you stop feeding the troll
Pick up a pastern's brassiere to ur buttocks, byrrhidae. U are just garbage and couldn't even muse upon, what can i do with that drk pools.
U should soak a lesson that at one's ease indicates that a pastern will come and fart on ur potbelly.

that kind of hashrate relative to shimmering beetle which mines in the bank where carbuncles are walking.

Farters, in this video i beat DRK community with my hashrates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeWs6ayupAw



Fantastic, now show your thousands of coins you should have.
hrt
sr. member
Activity: 288
Merit: 250

yoba pool is only mining with 12.12 MH/s so where is the 45 ish MH/s?

Your screenshot clearly show that you're getting less than 500kh/s.

So what's your point ?
Say me honestly, did u use cpu miner at all? Download minerd from github, run it and check how it calculate the hr.

Remove the -q flag from the command and see how much you are getting per thread man. Pretty much when a share is accepted it shows added hashrate of all threads of your CPU, which according to your screenshot is 500kh/s

Hell will freeze over before you can pull 40Mh/s from a cpu.....

And agree with the post above, stop comparing dicks.

EDIT: and rest of you stop feeding the troll
Pick up a pastern's brassiere to ur buttocks, byrrhidae. U are just garbage and couldn't even muse upon, what can i do with that drk pools.
U should soak a lesson that at one's ease indicates that a pastern will come and fart on ur potbelly.

that kind of hashrate relative to shimmering beetle which mines in the bank where carbuncles are walking.

Farters, in this video i beat DRK community with my hashrates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeWs6ayupAw

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Guys does anyone mine DRK with 7850?

it sems that i cant go over 650kh/s ... no matter what i try or what every concurrency or intensity i put...

Smiley any help here? im going ALL IN on darkcoin!

I have Coreclock to 1100 MHz and memclock to 1300 MHz with these settings and I get 1050 kH/s and 0,014 WU

-I 15 -g 4 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 14208
Rux
legendary
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Guys does anyone mine DRK with 7850?

it sems that i cant go over 650kh/s ... no matter what i try or what every concurrency or intensity i put...

Smiley any help here? im going ALL IN on darkcoin!
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