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Configuration Options Summary:

  Use git version......: yes
  libcurl(GBT+getwork).: Enabled: -lcurl  
  curses.TUI...........: FOUND: -lncurses
  OpenCL...............: NOT FOUND. GPU mining support DISABLED
configure: error: OpenCL not found

This is beyond stupid... I'm sick of trying to fix all these screw-ups.

Since there is no software that actually works for this card, ASUS 7970 for sale.

Have you tried changing bios/firmware update?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1281425/amd-release-hd-7970-ghz-bios-upgrade-for-reference-hd-7970
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Look at this hash rate . It is insane!wtf?

botnet lol, what else???

Yah, doesn't KGW put an end to that quickly?  With such a hashrate, I'm curious that they even bother with a pool though?
hero member
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Here are some ideas that come to mind and we might want to see them come to life:

- Darkcoin paper wallet system

- Android wallet. I find "Mycelium bitcoin wallet" great because it also supports drawing money from cold storage (paper wallets). That way you can be sure your money is safe 100% until you touch it for the first time. Then if you don't trust the app, you manually make sure the remaining DRK goes back into another paper wallet. Can someone contact the Mycelium bitcoin wallet creator and see if he would be willing to create a DRK fork for us and how much he wants to be paid for it (then we chip in with donations)

- Write a pro, interesting, short and to the point text explaining everything about how DRK works and why it is different/better from the rest. Then hire a professional speaker to read out the text (create voiceover). Then make a short "documentary". Use the voiceover and add appropriate videos/images as the voice explains it. Post that on Youtube and let's spread it

- possibly modify the darkcoin.io page to include the above mentioned video

- does the darkcoin dev need any help? maybe we can get a fund going which would be used by the dev to hire a coding/crypto expert he finds amazing to help with whatever is needed

- how about putting some donations together to run a facebook ad campaign, getting people to know darkcoin (that short documentary above would come in handy as a landing page)

- let's all do some brainstorming, keep such ideas flowing, and let's not leave it at that. implementation of good ideas is a must. Anyone can lead the way - just write up your project, present it to the community, provide a donations wallet and let the people put their money in as support votes

Great plan mayday9!


Yes, I am way too busy to do it myself. However, I put LimLims incharge of management of the project awhile back.

LimLims, can you provide a DRK address and be responsible for collecting + securing the bounty donations?  If so, we can get started!

Edit:  I have PMd LimLims about this.  Awaiting response.
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sgminer 4.1.0
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Configuration Options Summary:

  Use git version......: yes
  libcurl(GBT+getwork).: Enabled: -lcurl  
  curses.TUI...........: FOUND: -lncurses
  OpenCL...............: NOT FOUND. GPU mining support DISABLED
configure: error: OpenCL not found

This is beyond stupid... I'm sick of trying to fix all these screw-ups.

Since there is no software that actually works for this card, ASUS 7970 for sale.
newbie
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Shrem put it well when he said that a crypto coin is like brotherhood. Even if you don't know the creators, don't participate in the community, didn't know about the particular coin until recently, are clueless about coding - you still put your money in and you find yourself on the same side as everybody else who has done the same. We all want the same thing and can contribute to the coin's success one way or another.

Here are some ideas that come to mind and we might want to see them come to life:

- Darkcoin paper wallet system

- Android wallet. I find "Mycelium bitcoin wallet" great because it also supports drawing money from cold storage (paper wallets). That way you can be sure your money is safe 100% until you touch it for the first time. Then if you don't trust the app, you manually make sure the remaining DRK goes back into another paper wallet. Can someone contact the Mycelium bitcoin wallet creator and see if he would be willing to create a DRK fork for us and how much he wants to be paid for it (then we chip in with donations)

- Write a pro, interesting, short and to the point text explaining everything about how DRK works and why it is different/better from the rest. Then hire a professional speaker to read out the text (create voiceover). Then make a short "documentary". Use the voiceover and add appropriate videos/images as the voice explains it. Post that on Youtube and let's spread it

- possibly modify the darkcoin.io page to include the above mentioned video

- does the darkcoin dev need any help? maybe we can get a fund going which would be used by the dev to hire a coding/crypto expert he finds amazing to help with whatever is needed

- how about putting some donations together to run a facebook ad campaign, getting people to know darkcoin (that short documentary above would come in handy as a landing page)

- let's all do some brainstorming, keep such ideas flowing, and let's not leave it at that. implementation of good ideas is a must. Anyone can lead the way - just write up your project, present it to the community, provide a donations wallet and let the people put their money in as support votes
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The Future Of Work
lotterymining.com:

Todays Winner is: raggidy amount won: 34.87125 DRK


Status: 0/obekräftade, sänd genom 6 noder
Datum: 2014-03-09 13:54
Till: XajKUYi5orZepciFDjSXEQFv94C42we4Wp
Belasta: -34.87125 DRK
Nettobelopp: -34.87125 DRK
Transaktions-ID: 7339770e3cf50b73ec4bfc6899c7008a49e28a1bc28eb869d6fa9cb8a262e16b


Woot!  Congratulations raggedy!

If you're not mining at http://lotterymining.com , you're missing out!!!
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Hey guys !

If you want to give a try at P2POOL, I've just updated my node to the last version here :

http://mightypool.net:7903

My server is hosted in France so you should have good result if you're located in Europe.

You can also find closer nodes if you need to at :

http://darkcoin.mine.nu/
legendary
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DRK has two big issues that I see:

(1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

(2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

I agree, well said.

Personally, I don't think DarkSend should ever be open sourced. All it will result in are a ton of junk coins implementing it, and basically a ton of coins piggybacking on the dev's code here. Yes, if adoption was greater, then perhaps it'd make sense to open source. But to me, adoption means something like being able to be used for actual purchases somewhere.

So if DarkCoin turned into Bitcoin, sure, consider open source. But that sort of adoption would take years. Instead, if it was me, perhaps a verified 3rd party could look at the code for safety types of reasons every so often, rather than just release all of the code for free.

If the code is released, I expect the coin to drop in price ... a lot.

At this point I absolutely agree.  We have no brand awareness and as my favorite saying goes... " never forsake the real for the ideal!"   DarkCoins world needs to be tightly branded and every kink work out.  It would be suicidal to release anything until this coin is burned into peoples mind as the "NAME" in crypto security.

No Cryptoanarchist worth their salt would put their privacy and security in trust of any software that was closed-source.  You just don't get the idea why opensource software is so much more secure than anything closed-source.  
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So I just had a random idea and I wanted to see if there's any interest in me developing this (after DarkSend of course).

I think it would be really neat and much more friendly if you could type something like "Evan" in the Pay To field. Bitcoin/Darkcoin addresses are just really long and impossible to remember, it's even harder to show a Bitcoin address in a video or picture without a QR Code.

The solution? Named Addresses

When mining, the miner who successfully mines the block could "name" a darkcoin address. It would be permanently added to the block chain as an alias of that darkcoin address. The names could be up to 8-20 characters and would be paired with the 160 bit address. Upon loading the blockchain the client would form a cache of all of these and then they could be used in place of the full addresses.

It's decentralized, permanent and tamper proof.

The block explorer could even show the alias instead of the address when it had it available, so in a DarkSend you could tell that "Evan" paid someone, but you would have no idea who.

How do you get a name?

This could be an opportunity for the pool operators to make extra cash. They would take orders for name/address pairs and tell the daemon which ones to add to the blockchain next. The blockchain could only support 1 of these per block, so there could be a premium for adding them. Eventually I could see a centralized market where you buy a spot in the queue to get a name.

Thoughts?  

IMO, it sounds like a useful feature, but it's counter-productive to the ethos of DarkCoin. Crypto currencies are immature - there are hundreds and hundreds of useful features like this that could be added, but if you add too many to one such as DarkCoin, then it runs the risk of overcomplicating things and confusing people. Such features should be allowed to be introduced gradually to the market. For DRK, it doesn't add anything to help its cause.

I agree. More than over complicating, it just doesn't flow with anonymity and privacy aspects that should resonate with DarkCoin imo.

+1. IMO this is counter-productive to the main ethos of this coin, which is anonymity and privacy. I would rather devs focus on cleaner integration of darksend and insuring the code is bulletproof.
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I think, that in near future we would need also some lightweight client for DRK like Multibit is for Bitcoin. Also some mobile wallets too.
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is there a 32-bit version of the miner working yet?
from what i heard a 32 bit version of the CPU miner would be next to worthless
if you are looking for a GPU miner then go to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sph-sgminer-multi-coin-multi-algorithm-gpu-miner-added-marucoin-475795
legendary
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Thanks bigrcanada!

As mentioned above I think we should get the mining pools involved to offer an auto-donation to get the foundation funded. I also think we should use a similar rewards structure as heavy, obviously with fewer coins since ours are and will be worth so much more!

eduffield can you put up a donation address for the Foundation and implement the donation option on your pool to that address? If you do it then other mining pool operators can follow suit, up until a fund ceiling of 200,000 DRK or so.

I think most miners would be happy to contribute, especially when it will go directly to the foundation and improving the awareness, development and value of the coin. It's in everyone's best interest!

+1

Completely agree.  We need a someone we all trust to hold the coins for the bounties.  It makes sense that eduffield be that person, seeing as he must have a lot of trust from us as we are all counting on his development of the coin.  I would step up myself except I'm having trouble with my wallet (on a mac, it keeps quitting).  If we can get a darkcoinfounation website or simply a bounty page added to http://www.darkcoin.io/ with an darkcoin address controlled by eduffield (or another trusted person) we can all start chipping in to pay for the bounties.  We can propose bounties here in this thread and/or over at https://www.darkcointalk.org/.  Let's do it! Smiley

I would also propose that we make a central portal for DarkCoin marketing and administration discussions such as www.darkcointalk.org or off the main site...and maybe move that away from here.  

Started a Reddit thread that might be a good jumping off point, given the format. http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/1zzfoz/thoughts_in_marketing_this_coin/

Ok...so here's the next most difficult part, we need to put someone in charge.  For being in charge we could again donate some DRK for someone to organize everything and be a go to person. Naturally that would be Evan, though I suspect he already has alot on his plate...maybe one of the other devs or someone that Evan can propose to be the central goto person in regards to creating a task list and moving us forward.  I immediately remove myself from a possible candidate at this time due to our heavy work season at our winery coming up.  Evan...thoughts?

Yes, I am way too busy to do it myself. However, I put LimLims incharge of management of the project awhile back.
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is there a 32-bit version of the miner working yet?
legendary
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Meanwhile according to this http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1zz4h0/the_armory_new_currency_accepted_darkcoin/
the armory just added Darkcoin. Whether you like that  or not the armory has more than 10000 subscribers at reddit alone....

Mind that "the armory" accepts only Bitcoin and Darkcoin right now...

Is it just me or does this sound like pretty big news?


Well the armory isnt that big as silkroad. But sure it is! We all wanted to buy products with Darkcoins right? Well now you can buy that AK47 you always wanted with your mined coins. lol
hero member
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I don't know who is running https://twitter.com/DarkcoinTweets but you've got a bunch of things wrong - Neither @Darkcoin or @DRK are related to Darkcoin in any way. Please correct that.

I opened the @DRKCOIN twitter account very early on but the devs got it blocked/banned quickly in favor of their @darkcoincrypto account. Mine looked a bit too official anyways, although I had the best intentions as far as marketing goes. Had no problem handing it over either of course.
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So I just had a random idea and I wanted to see if there's any interest in me developing this (after DarkSend of course).

I think it would be really neat and much more friendly if you could type something like "Evan" in the Pay To field. Bitcoin/Darkcoin addresses are just really long and impossible to remember, it's even harder to show a Bitcoin address in a video or picture without a QR Code.

The solution? Named Addresses

When mining, the miner who successfully mines the block could "name" a darkcoin address. It would be permanently added to the block chain as an alias of that darkcoin address. The names could be up to 8-20 characters and would be paired with the 160 bit address. Upon loading the blockchain the client would form a cache of all of these and then they could be used in place of the full addresses.

It's decentralized, permanent and tamper proof.

The block explorer could even show the alias instead of the address when it had it available, so in a DarkSend you could tell that "Evan" paid someone, but you would have no idea who.

How do you get a name?

This could be an opportunity for the pool operators to make extra cash. They would take orders for name/address pairs and tell the daemon which ones to add to the blockchain next. The blockchain could only support 1 of these per block, so there could be a premium for adding them. Eventually I could see a centralized market where you buy a spot in the queue to get a name.

Thoughts?  

I think this is an awesome usability feature, but not so relevant to the spread and positioning of Darkcoin at its current and near-term stage.
Everyone agrees here that the major obstacle that drk faces now is getting exposure to the greater population. I see this achieved either by marketing [as suggested by many] or by begin trading in a prominent exchange with loads of users and cash [as voted by many here in poles].

In regards to marketing, I believe we need to start sending emails to every blogger out there.
In regards to trading, we were very unfortunate to be traded on 2 exchanges that got hacked this month. This impacts users' confidence and willingness to transfer coins into an exchange and buy drk.
Right now, this point-of-failure called "an exchange" is imho our weakest link. Our daily volume is shrinking and no big exchange is pushing the coin.
i've heard NXT users speak about p2p trading, where you don't need an exchange any more and your coins are safe in your own wallet. If this is not a development that would take months, perhaps this could be our next feature, and by doing so, we leap above the exchange factor.
In any case, I believe we should be getting out of Beta real soon and stating to the world - "It works. It's trustworthy. It's anonymous."
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What's going on to the difficulty and to the nethashrate???

It is increased from 8,5GH to 9,5GH.

Is it a big news?
Are we near to a big pump?
hero member
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Meanwhile according to this http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1zz4h0/the_armory_new_currency_accepted_darkcoin/
the armory just added Darkcoin. Whether you like that  or not the armory has more than 10000 subscribers at reddit alone....

Mind that "the armory" accepts only Bitcoin and Darkcoin right now...

Is it just me or does this sound like pretty big news?
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Wiped system, started over fresh, still fails hard...

Quote from: AMD driver fail log
Supported adapter detected.
Check if system has the tools required for installation.
Uninstalling any previously installed drivers.
Unloading radeon module...
Error: Module radeon is in use
Unloading drm module...
Error: Module drm is in use by: ttm i915 drm_kms_helper radeon
[Message] Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[Message] Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[Message] Kernel Module : Found kernel module build environment, generating kernel module now.
AMD kernel module generator version 2.1
doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
rm -rf *.c *.h *.o *.ko *.a .??* *.symvers
make -C /lib/modules/3.11.0-12-generic/build SUBDIRS=/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-12-generic'
  CC [M]  /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o
  CC [M]  /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_acpi.o
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_acpi.c: In function ‘KCL_ACPI_ParseTable’:
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_acpi.c:999:5: warning: passing argument 1 of ‘(acpi_status (*)(u32,  void *, void *))handler’ makes integer from pointer without a cast [enabled by default]
     ((acpi_table_handler)handler)(hdr);
     ^
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_acpi.c:999:5: note: expected ‘u32’ but argument is of type ‘struct acpi_table_header *’
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_acpi.c:999:5: error: too few arguments to function ‘(acpi_status (*)(u32,  void *, void *))handler’
make[2]: *** [/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/kcl_acpi.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-12-generic'
make: *** [kmod_build] Error 2
build failed with return value 2
[Error] Kernel Module : Failed to compile kernel module - please consult readme.
[Reboot] Kernel Module : update-initramfs

This shit just doesn't work. Period.
legendary
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won't sending multiple transactions to your self bloat the blockchain?

Are you talking about denominate? It's just one transaction and it takes your whole wallet and converts the inputs into DarkSend compatible inputs. Say for example you have 123DRK, it would create ONE transaction that allowed you to DarkSend 9 times. Then you would need to run it again when you ran out of compatible inputs.
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