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January 01, 2016, 03:27:50 AM
Happy new year friends! Thanks to everyone who carefully answers the questions of the users in this thread, that's great. At present the concern is only the distribution of coins, many believe that the developers take too much at the start of the coins and every block mined as well. I have some thoughts on the matter. If the developers are diligent, it can help keep course coins without many mining rigs. I think that the developers are primarily interested in increasing the value of the coin, because of their desire to receive funding from each block are in general justified. However, if the price of the coin in the future will be very high, say 10+ dollars, or even higher, then 10% of each block seem an incredibly large sum on an annual basis. But again, the developers indicated that all the important questions about the development of coins boudot be decided by the community of coin holders, I hope it also applies to the distribution of shares in blocks.
December 31, 2015, 09:21:12 PM
This is presented as an "intention of stewardship" and will be judged against deliverables, instead of taking people's money and making lots of potentially-empty promises. There's no claim it's a perfect system, it's an alternative model that will explore new areas in both technology and governance, but hopefully this post sheds light on the stewardship process and issues raised. Looking at Group Contribution Timeline in OP, let me mention that 'intention of stewardship' has started a considerable time ago and weighs heavily already IMO. > GO December 31, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
Probing questions and detailed answers
looks very promising, keep the questions coming and the community will gain confidence that the Devs mean well best wishes and a happy New Year to all December 31, 2015, 02:48:04 PM
I'll preface this post: I am genuinely interested in this coin and what it can offer and like most of the ideas being proposed. I am in the IRC channel and intend to be active in it. I am not here to FUD or bash this coin. But... I have a concern that the developers are actually able to take a MUCH larger amount than the 10% subsidy just by staking their premine coins. Remember that 30% of all minted coins are given as PoS rewards. On day 1 the developers will have 4% of all coins, but actually 50% of all coins in existence. If they stake these, then they will get 50% of the 30% proof of stake coins, a further 15% of ALL minted coins. This percentage will taper off over time as their % of all minted coins becomes smaller, but the numbers are still scary... Thank you for bringing this up on IRC, it's critically important to understand how the subsidy system works and where the funds are going. The base reasoning is correct, but the inferences require detailed explanation inline below. The calculations referenced in this explanation are contained in a spreadsheet, linked here.
After 1 year, it is estimated that 4.7m coins will have been freshly minted, which is approximately 22% of the 21m coins. If the developers did not sell their premine coins, they would still hold their 4%, PLUS 2.2% for their developer subsidy (10% of the 22% freshly minted), PLUS whatever they have earned from staking for 12 months (roughly another 10% of all coins minted in the first year / 2.2% total, as they will be taking 15% of PoS coins on day 1 and around 6-7% of PoS coins after 1 year). So after 1 year the devs would have 4% + 2.2% + ~2.2% = 8.4% of all coins (~1.764m) which is a staggering 27.6% of all coins minted to date by then (1.764m out of 4.7m + 1.68m premine). This also means that at the start of year 2 they could still be getting 8.3% of all newly minted coins through staking (27.6% of the 30% PoS) on top of the 10% dev subsidy. I can understand the concept behind the 10% developer subsidy AND the premine (though I have a question mark over whether they need both), but I am seriously concerned that after 1 year the developers could still be raking > 18% of all new coins if they just sit and stake their initial premine.
Am I missing something in all of this? Could there be a mechanism to prevent the developers from staking their premine coins, until they are sold on or until much later(year 3 or more) when their % of minted coins to date becomes much less? The threat you describe, "How do we moderate the amount of PoS mining power for our 4% premine?", was also discussed prior to your bringing it up. The plan was to start mining PoS at a moderate pace so that people besides the 4% premine can get stake tickets without too much effort. After you brought this up, the other possible options were discussed that have been mentioned by you and others in the community. The complexity of the constraint for what would be considered good behavior on c0/devs' part makes implementing such a constraint difficult. The belief is that the proper constraint would be "c0/devs can mine some PoS, but not too much PoS, and no pump and dumps" or similar. Other projects have CLTV'ed coins to make them unusable until a certain block number, but this would mean c0/devs cannot use these coins to secure the network by mining PoS. A notable distinction here is that Decred never took external funding for the bringup work, and, as such, has no pre-existing social contract with the userbase that would merit a promise to behave a certain way. Although, it must be said that inappropriate behaviour by c0/devs removes any prospect of sustainable development, which goes against c0/devs' history of development over the years. This is because there is strong incentive to reproduce this level of activity for Decred as one of the development stakeholders in the ecosystem. The reasoning for airdropping 50% of the premine was based on the logic that Decred will be most vulnerable at mainnet launch and therefore require a steward to ensure it is not essentially dead-on-arrival. Airdropping more than 50% of the premine was considered, but doing so would be a risk to the security of the chain since bad actors could scoop up a large percentage of the initial coins and wreak havoc with PoS mining. A 50% airdrop in the premine was the largest safe size for the airdrop that could be determined, and it can be viewed as a set of training wheels that are taken off as time passes after launch. This is presented as an "intention of stewardship" and will be judged against deliverables, instead of taking people's money and making lots of potentially-empty promises. There's no claim it's a perfect system, it's an alternative model that will explore new areas in both technology and governance, but hopefully this post sheds light on the stewardship process and issues raised. December 31, 2015, 12:54:43 PM
I am interested, I can help with ARM, Docker and Golang and I can give a hand with fiat exchange with my bank account with 30 currencies.
December 31, 2015, 10:11:20 AM
Happy New Year to all of you & I hope you will evolve to be a better human being in this new year.
Regards Sam December 31, 2015, 10:09:28 AM
I have Nvidia gtx 970 , gpu miner for Nvidia is released ? . No miner released yet. The miner is a fork of an older version of cgminer with a rewritten kernel. It's been built for both AMD and NVIDIA cards, but it's likely that an optimized miner for NVIDIA cards will take a little finesse and a fork of ccminer. Just to inform the community & dev team, sp_, the developer of ccminer sp-mod, claims that his current public release can do following numbers on 14 round blake-256 by using switch -a blake Please contact him, he can further optimize this if a bounty is available. Also if anyone want to donate for his public release you are welcome to do so. Just goto his thread on the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826901.new#new https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13396843 @sp_ can you please post numbers for 14 round blake so ican post them in decred thread. thanks gtx 980ti 2,4GHASH gtx 980 1,8GHASH gtx 970 1,52GHASH gtx 960 0.98MHASH gtx 750ti 0.53MHASH Jump to:
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