Topic: [ANN][ECASH]E-Money Advertising Revenue In Wallet | 8% Daily Stake for 21 days - page 80. (Read 91483 times)
March 01, 2015, 03:08:49 PM
Watch the price go crazy now..LOL
March 01, 2015, 03:08:42 PM
Thank you spots, that's mighty philanthropic of you!
March 01, 2015, 03:07:10 PM
My vote is DONT wait it out. Lets pay to have this fixed. If we wait the is certainly more problems headed our way. IF we bounty igotspots to repair, it WILL be fixed right and under his watch, we dont have to worry about some flakey dev taking off. Also once Spots takes control of this coin, the price will go crazy because of the trust factor.
Vegas
Vegas
If I do fix it, you guys don't have to pay me anything (and the premine would be destroyed). I'll put an address up for the new chain if anyone wants to, but I wouldn't expect anything for it. I don't have any of these now, but a lot of people seem to have a lot invested. I just think the name would make a good addition to GorillaStake
Sounds great to me, that would earn a lot of goodwill from a lot of us, and I think increase the value of Gorillastake. (That I already like since it has an asset on HZ)
March 01, 2015, 03:05:41 PM
You would need to update once on the old chain to send coins to Bittrex (with 0 reward PoW active), then update again to the new chain before withdrawing
im fine with that
March 01, 2015, 03:04:42 PM
as long as i keep my coins im happy
im with you topcat363
March 01, 2015, 03:03:55 PM
You would need to update once on the old chain to send coins to Bittrex (with 0 reward PoW active), then update again to the new chain before withdrawing
March 01, 2015, 03:00:43 PM
as long as i keep my coins im happy
March 01, 2015, 02:59:05 PM
are we going to loose coin in wallets ?
March 01, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
WOW! Guys you cant beat that!!!
Vegas
Vegas
March 01, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
My vote is DONT wait it out. Lets pay to have this fixed. If we wait the is certainly more problems headed our way. IF we bounty igotspots to repair, it WILL be fixed right and under his watch, we dont have to worry about some flakey dev taking off. Also once Spots takes control of this coin, the price will go crazy because of the trust factor.
Vegas
Vegas
If I do fix it, you guys don't have to pay me anything (and the premine would be destroyed). I'll put an address up for the new chain if anyone wants to, but I wouldn't expect anything for it. I don't have any of these now, but a lot of people seem to have a lot invested. I just think the name would make a good addition to GorillaStake
March 01, 2015, 02:54:21 PM
ok.. what about OCminer, is he in good with Richie?
Vegas
Vegas
March 01, 2015, 02:53:30 PM
My vote is DONT wait it out. Lets pay to have this fixed. If we wait there are certainly more problems headed our way. IF we bounty igotspots to repair, it WILL be fixed right and under his watch, we dont have to worry about some flakey dev taking off. Also once Spots takes control of this coin, the price will go crazy because of the trust factor.
Vegas
Vegas
March 01, 2015, 02:53:12 PM
Sounds good to me, anyone know Bittrex Richie?
Yes, but he won't be happy with me if I ask him do all this lol
March 01, 2015, 02:52:27 PM
Guys Igotspots dev got back to me and asked me to post this: For those of you that dont know , he is the dev behind MMXIV, Balls, and 10k coins.
He says
"If you guys want me to fix this, it would have to be:
This would require two updates. First to get the old chain moving again (extend PoW for 0 reward), then an update to the new chain (which would generate current money supply minus premine for the swap). You would need to convince Richie and Bittrex to update twice and escrow the swap so nobody has to trust me to hold their money
Or you could just wait it out, it'll probably stake eventually. I think it's messing with stake modifiers, (maturity at 24 hours but wouldn't stake until 8.8 days) but I can't find the switch time so it's really hard to tell what bullshit is actually going on."
He says
"If you guys want me to fix this, it would have to be:
- A new chain. This one can be fixed, but it's really fucked up and I don't feel like wasting time searching for bullshit
- Premine destroyed. Whatever the premine was, the new chain would generate the current money supply minus premine amount. Community donations and bounties are fine, but premines are not
- Same genesis as MMXIV so I can group it into my merged shit later if I decide to, same as BALLS and 10k are (works fine if you know how to do it)
This would require two updates. First to get the old chain moving again (extend PoW for 0 reward), then an update to the new chain (which would generate current money supply minus premine for the swap). You would need to convince Richie and Bittrex to update twice and escrow the swap so nobody has to trust me to hold their money
Or you could just wait it out, it'll probably stake eventually. I think it's messing with stake modifiers, (maturity at 24 hours but wouldn't stake until 8.8 days) but I can't find the switch time so it's really hard to tell what bullshit is actually going on."
Sounds good to me, anyone know Bittrex Richie?
March 01, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
iGotSpots: ''You won't get a PoS block until at least 2nd Mar 2015 10:17:55'' 
That was based on the assumption that PoS was enabled after block 6000. 2nd Mar 2015 10:17:55 is exactly 24h after block 6000 so based on mincoinage this would be correct.
Unfortunately that assumption is/was wrong. :|
Correct. I now think it is difficulty and possibly stake modifiers. But you haven't seen a PoS block so far, so my statement wasn't wrong quite yet
March 01, 2015, 02:49:49 PM
As for the general argument of "why save a coin that might be in trouble?", simple, the more bad experiences people have in cryptos, the most likely they are to leave the marketplace and take all of their money with them. Helping people on the other hand earns goodwill, and counters all the ICO scams and other crap many of us had to deal with. We need more people helping each other out and making cryptos stronger, not more people burned out and giving up, and telling others to stay away.
March 01, 2015, 02:47:19 PM
Guys Igotspots dev got back to me and asked me to post this: For those of you that dont know , he is the dev behind MMXIV, Balls, and 10k coins.
He says
"If you guys want me to fix this, it would have to be:
This would require two updates. First to get the old chain moving again (extend PoW for 0 reward), then an update to the new chain (which would generate current money supply minus premine for the swap). You would need to convince Richie and Bittrex to update twice and escrow the swap so nobody has to trust me to hold their money
Or you could just wait it out, it'll probably stake eventually. I think it's messing with stake modifiers, (maturity at 24 hours but wouldn't stake until 8.8 days) but I can't find the switch time so it's really hard to tell what bullshit is actually going on."
He says
"If you guys want me to fix this, it would have to be:
- A new chain. This one can be fixed, but it's really fucked up and I don't feel like wasting time searching for bullshit
- Premine destroyed. Whatever the premine was, the new chain would generate the current money supply minus premine amount. Community donations and bounties are fine, but premines are not
- Same genesis as MMXIV so I can group it into my merged shit later if I decide to, same as BALLS and 10k are (works fine if you know how to do it)
This would require two updates. First to get the old chain moving again (extend PoW for 0 reward), then an update to the new chain (which would generate current money supply minus premine for the swap). You would need to convince Richie and Bittrex to update twice and escrow the swap so nobody has to trust me to hold their money
Or you could just wait it out, it'll probably stake eventually. I think it's messing with stake modifiers, (maturity at 24 hours but wouldn't stake until 8.8 days) but I can't find the switch time so it's really hard to tell what bullshit is actually going on."
March 01, 2015, 02:47:02 PM
iGotSpots: ''You won't get a PoS block until at least 2nd Mar 2015 10:17:55''
That was based on the assumption that PoS was enabled after block 6000. 2nd Mar 2015 10:17:55 is exactly 24h after block 6000 so based on mincoinage this would be correct.
Unfortunately that assumption is/was wrong. :|
March 01, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
gotta run for the night. in the mean time KEEP DUMPING fuggers
March 01, 2015, 02:18:45 PM
It seems the community has some decisions to make.
1) Wait for the dev to appear and fix the code
2) Ditch the dev and get a third party to fix the code asap. Get a new committed dev.
3) Ditch the coin
A coin dev has a vision and commitment to make something with a coin. A new dev might be just a hired hand that is not necessarily committed to a coin's future. There has been exceptions to this though where a takeover was done successfully.
Due to my risk management strategy I am not materially exposed to emoney that is stuck in my wallet so I am indifferent to the option chosen. If it is going to be a lot of effort to fix the code, to hire a third party for the fix or to get a new committed dev, then it might be best to just ditch the coin and move on. But then there are many who are heavily invested with coins stuck in their wallet and their interests have to be considered as well.
1) Wait for the dev to appear and fix the code
2) Ditch the dev and get a third party to fix the code asap. Get a new committed dev.
3) Ditch the coin
A coin dev has a vision and commitment to make something with a coin. A new dev might be just a hired hand that is not necessarily committed to a coin's future. There has been exceptions to this though where a takeover was done successfully.
Due to my risk management strategy I am not materially exposed to emoney that is stuck in my wallet so I am indifferent to the option chosen. If it is going to be a lot of effort to fix the code, to hire a third party for the fix or to get a new committed dev, then it might be best to just ditch the coin and move on. But then there are many who are heavily invested with coins stuck in their wallet and their interests have to be considered as well.
I can lose the money if need be and take option 3), but I don't see the point in that, as I like the branding, a lot is in a name really. (Look at "Darkcoin") I have helped with a coin that started at 9 sats and now is trading at 150 sats. I run a community with 4300 crypto traders, and have over 1 million views on my blog, not a big deal, nor am I bragging, but I can provide some free promotions for the coin. My idea would be just to make it into what it really is anyway, a trading/staking coin, but maybe go all out with that angle instead of some advertising stuff? Maybe that could still work though, if there were a reason for people to use the coin a lot. Staking gambling games or something, a reason people would see the ads? Make it an honest staking coin, we have the premine, we have donations, we already have the Bittrex slot. We have people that want it to work. I can't personally fix the code however, so it does require someone with coding talent that wants to make some profit.
I loved Blackcoin because Rat4 used to save every freaking POS coin that came out, even outright competitors, just because he could. I guess things are different now, but I will see if anyone I know is interested.
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