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Thằng phát triển coin ngu quá phải góp ý thôi
Peace in happiness ^^
Topic: [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | 1st to activate Segwit | Building Lightning Network - page 260. (Read 558212 times)
April 03, 2014, 07:58:51 AM
Thằng phát triển coin ngu quá phải góp ý thôi
Peace in happiness ^^
April 03, 2014, 07:50:09 AM
Bạn Hạo Nam chơi chiêu khích tướng hả?. He he
April 03, 2014, 07:37:05 AM
gruve_p , if you haven't skill to improve this coin , plz ask or learn about this , or talent person who can lead this coin
A great coin can't be lead by a child , right ?
April 03, 2014, 07:08:06 AM
bittrex early bird optimists
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
Why optimists? I really don't get this scene anymore. When a coin is new, a price can be created.
But some miners do not even want to create attractive prices anymore, they undersell each other - so far below what is a nice price. And then you don't even earn enough to pay the electricity. Makes no sense.
Back in the old days (i.e. 10 weeks ago), when GPU mining of PoW coins was still worthwhile, a coin started to be interesting when 1 MH/s (scrypt) could create an equivalent of about 2 million Satoshis per day. In the first days or even weeks of a coinstart, especially with a new algorithm, (much) more than that, sometimes.
But now look at this:
If my preliminary calculations are right,
2 million Satoshi worth of coins per day
with 1 MH/s scrypt hardware would
need 2506 Satoshi per Groestlcoin
at the current Groestl-difficulty of 88.3 .
Dumping the coin now for one sixth of that ... is destructive.
Even if the electricity consumption is only 50% (which by the way is fantastic, thank you devs, for this algo!).
The difficulty must rise and rise and rise, that is good for the security of the coin - but will the price rise even faster? I doubt it.
Miner, educate yourself better! Learn what you need to know otherwise you cut the branch you are sitting on! And all of us fall - because of you.
EDIT: changed some words, took the anger out :-)
I agree with you, many miners are stupid. I can't understand why they are sold at a low price.
A good coin as GRS must be traded on the larger exchange with intelligent miners.
So let's turn this around. Sorry myself for having called that stupid. It's ... lack of knowledge.
There is a tiny last chance ... if we educate as many as possible about what they need to know.
Three first ideas:
- ! --> The mining price relates difficulty, block reward, and hashrate - to daily earnings. Newbie-Miner, please study this.
- ! --> Wolfpack strategies (see insanitycoin debates "I was amazed that people ..." ):
If someone wants to be eaten and sells low, single him out,
but don't run after him and give him support by going low yourself. - ! --> your idea. What else could be done?
April 03, 2014, 06:34:47 AM
Directly scanning the executable, we get this:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4b379c93d3f712fbc48687f672ee517a3034ad5a9bd48905744aa87371517d7a/analysis/
with two detections of a miner:
and a heuristics hit:
which appears often, also, but not only, in cgminer: Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.J!88
?
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4b379c93d3f712fbc48687f672ee517a3034ad5a9bd48905744aa87371517d7a/analysis/
Code:
SHA256: 4b379c93d3f712fbc48687f672ee517a3034ad5a9bd48905744aa87371517d7a
File name: sgminer.exe
Detection ratio: 3 / 51
Analysis date: 2014-03-26 04:08:11 UTC ( 1 week, 1 day ago )
File name: sgminer.exe
Detection ratio: 3 / 51
Analysis date: 2014-03-26 04:08:11 UTC ( 1 week, 1 day ago )
with two detections of a miner:
Code:
AntiVir APPL/Bitcoinminer.Gen 20140326
ESET-NOD32 a variant of Win32/BitCoinMiner.BF 20140326
ESET-NOD32 a variant of Win32/BitCoinMiner.BF 20140326
and a heuristics hit:
Code:
McAfee-GW-Edition Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.J!88 20140326
which appears often, also, but not only, in cgminer: Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.J!88
?
Miners always show up as positives because some trojans use them to mine coins for botnets. You can exclude them in your AV software though.
April 03, 2014, 06:20:28 AM
bittrex early bird optimists
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
Why optimists? I really don't get this scene anymore. When a coin is new, a new price can actually be created, but some miners do not even want to create profitable prices anymore, they undersell themselves - so far below what is a nice price. And then you don't even earn enough to pay the electricity. Stupid.
Only a few weeks ago, a coin was profitable when 1 MH/s (scrypt) could create about 2 million Satoshi per day. In the first days or weeks even (much) more than that sometimes.
If my preliminary calculations are right,
2 million Satoshi per day
with 1 MH/s scrypt hardware would
need 2400 Satoshi per Groestlcoin
at the current Groestl-difficulty of 88.
Dumping the coin now for one sixth of that ... is plain destructive.
Even if the electricity consumption is only 50%.
The difficulty will rise and rise and rise, and that is good for the coin - but will the price rise even faster? I doubt it.
Miner, don't be stupid!
I agree with you, many miners are stupid. I can't understand why they are sold at a low price.
A good coin as GRS must be traded on the larger exchange with intelligent miners.
April 03, 2014, 06:09:28 AM
bittrex early bird optimists
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
Why optimists? I really don't get this scene anymore. When a coin is new, a price can be created.
But some miners do not even want to create attractive prices anymore, they undersell each other - so far below what is a nice price. And then you don't even earn enough to pay the electricity. Makes no sense.
Back in the old days (i.e. 10 weeks ago), when GPU mining of PoW coins was still worthwhile, a coin started to be interesting when 1 MH/s (scrypt) could create an equivalent of about 2 million Satoshis per day. In the first days or even weeks of a coinstart, especially with a new algorithm, (much) more than that, sometimes.
But now look at this:
If my preliminary calculations are right,
2 million Satoshi worth of coins per day
with 1 MH/s scrypt hardware would
need 2506 Satoshi per Groestlcoin
at the current Groestl-difficulty of 88.3 .
Dumping the coin now for one sixth of that ... is destructive.
Even if the electricity consumption is only 50% (which by the way is fantastic, thank you devs, for this algo!).
The difficulty must rise and rise and rise, that is good for the security of the coin - but will the price rise even faster? I doubt it.
Miner, educate yourself better! Learn what you need to know otherwise you cut the branch you are sitting on! And all of us fall - because of you.
EDIT: changed some words, took the anger out :-)
April 03, 2014, 05:43:22 AM
Twitter account is up as of today:
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam
Start following and supporting your community!
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam
Start following and supporting your community!
April 03, 2014, 05:32:44 AM
Directly scanning the executable, we get this:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4b379c93d3f712fbc48687f672ee517a3034ad5a9bd48905744aa87371517d7a/analysis/
with two detections of a miner:
and a heuristics hit:
which appears often, also, but not only, in cgminer: Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.J!88
?
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4b379c93d3f712fbc48687f672ee517a3034ad5a9bd48905744aa87371517d7a/analysis/
Code:
SHA256: 4b379c93d3f712fbc48687f672ee517a3034ad5a9bd48905744aa87371517d7a
File name: sgminer.exe
Detection ratio: 3 / 51
Analysis date: 2014-03-26 04:08:11 UTC ( 1 week, 1 day ago )
with two detections of a miner:
Code:
AntiVir APPL/Bitcoinminer.Gen 20140326
ESET-NOD32 a variant of Win32/BitCoinMiner.BF 20140326
and a heuristics hit:
Code:
McAfee-GW-Edition Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.J!88 20140326
which appears often, also, but not only, in cgminer: Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.J!88
?
April 03, 2014, 05:30:57 AM
GRS currency is good, but the operators of this currency business is garbage, dog feces.
Marketing should let more people know how to operate it, to expand its influence, I hope to start within a week. Look now finally force prices continued to decline. I am very worried, according to the current state of development, this currency will soon die. I believe more and more people will lose confidence. Insisted it would not last long.
If you have a plan, we recommend that the first page is described in detail, so that more people know you, support you.
If you do not plan on subsequent days, I will give it up
Marketing should let more people know how to operate it, to expand its influence, I hope to start within a week. Look now finally force prices continued to decline. I am very worried, according to the current state of development, this currency will soon die. I believe more and more people will lose confidence. Insisted it would not last long.
If you have a plan, we recommend that the first page is described in detail, so that more people know you, support you.
If you do not plan on subsequent days, I will give it up
A little harsh, but to the point. :-)
Developer, gruve_p, sent me a personal message saying that he currently doesn't have much time to devote to this coin. He would like us to set up a team of developers to promote and improve the coin. He will be supervising and recommending ways to improve.
If you are interested, please PM me, or gruve_p, or just post to this thread.
Also send through your recommendations. I did set up a trello account and set up bounty of 10,000 GRS for improved website design and a post about GRS to some well known forum.
C'mon it's part of the fun!
PS: I myself don't have experience in promoting coins and only started crypto mining/investing in December. But... I'm lead software architect (3D/C++) in a large computer firm, I've got BTC/GRS and time to devote to this. Last year I played clash of clans and and spent about 300 usd on gems :-) This is even more interesting! We're making future! I've gor 4 R9 290 all mining GRS and 3 200ghs AntMiners with which I buy GRS that you dump on nxt-e :-)
I'd like to know what relationship (if any) gruve_p has with the authors of the Groestl paper. Are the authors aware of Groestlcoin and do they support it? Since you are currently the point man please ask him for me.
thanks
btw can gruve_p please post something in this thread to reassure me he is still breathing. cheers.
April 03, 2014, 05:25:33 AM
-GPU-miner for pools(windows, AMD)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9cvOfoOekSdM1BLVlY1NWRzQjA/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9cvOfoOekSdM1BLVlY1NWRzQjA/edit?usp=sharing
still 4 (false?) positives for the gpu-DwarfPool-grs.zip miner
Code:
SHA256: 5a6334cf65a0bdd7e48f5b27badec5dd388e0f6e9dd8895c75977720c96497b2
File name: gpu-DwarfPool-grs.zip
Detection ratio: 4 / 51
Analysis date: 2014-03-26 04:07:07 UTC ( 1 week, 1 day ago )
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/5a6334cf65a0bdd7e48f5b27badec5dd388e0f6e9dd8895c75977720c96497b2/analysis/
three of which discover it is a miner *g*
Code:
AntiVir APPL/Bitcoinminer.Gen 20140326
DrWeb Tool.BtcMine.141 20140326
ESET-NOD32 a variant of Win32/BitCoinMiner.BF 20140326
but one speaking of a "TROJAN":
Code:
TrendMicro-HouseCall TROJ_GE.48818833 20140326
And that one appears not only in miner software: TROJ_GE.48818833
Not suspecting anything malicious ... just checking ...
April 03, 2014, 04:06:46 AM
LINUX manual -COMPILE the WALLETd in the CLOUD
now also with details for Groestl coin: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6048404 (posting #23)
* your wallet in the cloud, 24/7 on
* just buy yourself a 5$/month VPS droplet:
* digitalocean http://tiny.cc/digocean NL USA Singapur
* Debian 7 (or Ubuntu 12 but then you'd support the Unity spyware)
* you can also run other tools like block explorer, CPU-miner etc.
* for an easy start into the linux world, safer & less NSA backdoors?
* to learn for future coinstarts: already have a wallet when windows user don't have a wallet yet
* a walletd uses ~ 1% cpu power, you can have many on one VPS
Any hint to improve the manual is highly appreciated.
#
Tip me Groestl coins for my work: FstNLSjkh4xJjoiCRd24hw8tKoun8pFrux thx
now also with details for Groestl coin: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6048404 (posting #23)
* your wallet in the cloud, 24/7 on
* just buy yourself a 5$/month VPS droplet:
* digitalocean http://tiny.cc/digocean NL USA Singapur
* Debian 7 (or Ubuntu 12 but then you'd support the Unity spyware)
* you can also run other tools like block explorer, CPU-miner etc.
* for an easy start into the linux world, safer & less NSA backdoors?
* to learn for future coinstarts: already have a wallet when windows user don't have a wallet yet
* a walletd uses ~ 1% cpu power, you can have many on one VPS
Any hint to improve the manual is highly appreciated.
#
Tip me Groestl coins for my work: FstNLSjkh4xJjoiCRd24hw8tKoun8pFrux thx
April 03, 2014, 03:14:08 AM
my GRS buy orders is about 300, and i will sell soon not less 1500
April 03, 2014, 02:58:32 AM
bittrex early bird optimists
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
Everyone does that on a new coin. meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
April 03, 2014, 02:22:26 AM
If you're looking for a reliable, fair Pool:
https://grs.suprnova.cc
Still lots of free slots for miners, hop in, we're finding blocks on a regular basis and got all the Googles.
Our Daemon is patched against the various fake share attacks, You really get What You mine.
https://grs.suprnova.cc
Still lots of free slots for miners, hop in, we're finding blocks on a regular basis and got all the Googles.
Our Daemon is patched against the various fake share attacks, You really get What You mine.
April 03, 2014, 02:07:19 AM
bittrex early bird optimists
https://i.imgur.com/GKwHLdO.png
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
https://i.imgur.com/FEgdmGP.png
https://i.imgur.com/GKwHLdO.png
meanwhile these are the nxt-e prices
https://i.imgur.com/FEgdmGP.png
April 03, 2014, 01:58:00 AM
GRS currency is good, but the operators of this currency business is garbage, dog feces.
Marketing should let more people know how to operate it, to expand its influence, I hope to start within a week. Look now finally force prices continued to decline. I am very worried, according to the current state of development, this currency will soon die. I believe more and more people will lose confidence. Insisted it would not last long.
If you have a plan, we recommend that the first page is described in detail, so that more people know you, support you.
If you do not plan on subsequent days, I will give it up
Marketing should let more people know how to operate it, to expand its influence, I hope to start within a week. Look now finally force prices continued to decline. I am very worried, according to the current state of development, this currency will soon die. I believe more and more people will lose confidence. Insisted it would not last long.
If you have a plan, we recommend that the first page is described in detail, so that more people know you, support you.
If you do not plan on subsequent days, I will give it up
A little harsh, but to the point. :-)
Developer, gruve_p, sent me a personal message saying that he currently doesn't have much time to devote to this coin. He would like us to set up a team of developers to promote and improve the coin. He will be supervising and recommending ways to improve.
If you are interested, please PM me, or gruve_p, or just post to this thread.
Also send through your recommendations. I did set up a trello account and set up bounty of 10,000 GRS for improved website design and a post about GRS to some well known forum.
C'mon it's part of the fun!
PS: I myself don't have experience in promoting coins and only started crypto mining/investing in December. But... I'm lead software architect (3D/C++) in a large computer firm, I've got BTC/GRS and time to devote to this. Last year I played clash of clans and and spent about 300 usd on gems :-) This is even more interesting! We're making future! I've gor 4 R9 290 all mining GRS and 3 200ghs AntMiners with which I buy GRS that you dump on nxt-e :-)
April 03, 2014, 12:53:06 AM
Awesome Richie, thanks for responding favorably, cheers 
April 03, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Got a couple of requests that you guys needed a real exchange
No voting, no donations necessary... Happy trading
https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-GRS
Thanks,
Richie
No voting, no donations necessary... Happy trading
https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-GRS
Thanks,
Richie
April 02, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
Is there a reason why the logo is G2?
The logo is a Scrabble™ game piece.
https://i.imgur.com/qIMPwMj.jpg
I thought it was clever, but I'm not sure if Milton Bradley's lawyers would approve.
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